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Social Media Apps Will Have To Shield Children From Dangerous Stunts (theguardian.com) 62

An anonymous reader quotes a report from The Guardian: Social media firms will be ordered to protect children from encountering dangerous stunts and challenges on their platforms under changes to the online safety bill. The legislation will explicitly refer to content that "encourages, promotes or provides instructions for a challenge or stunt highly likely to result in serious injury" as the type of material that under-18s should be protected from. The bill will also require social media companies to proactively prevent children from seeing the highest risk forms of content, such as material encouraging suicide and self-harm. Tech firms could be required to use age-checking measures to prevent under-18s from seeing such material.

In another change to the legislation, which is expected to become law this year, social media platforms will have to introduce tougher age-checking measures to prevent children from accessing pornography -- bringing them in line with the bill's measures for mainstream sites such as Pornhub. Services that publish or allow pornography on their sites will be required to introduce "highly effective" age-checking measures such as age estimation tools that estimate someone's age from a selfie. Other amendments include requiring the communications watchdog Ofcom to produce guidance for tech firms on protecting women and girls online. Ofcom, which will oversee implementation of the act once it comes into force, will be required to consult with the domestic abuse commissioner and victims commissioner when producing the guidance, in order to ensure it reflects the voices of victims.

The updated bill will also criminalize the sharing of deepfake intimate images in England and Wales. In a further change it will require platforms to ask adult users if they wish to avoid content that promotes self-harm or eating disorders or racist content. Once the law comes into force breaches will carry a punishment of a fine of £18m or up to 10% of global turnover. In the most extreme cases, Ofcom will be able to block platforms.

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  • needs an rule that moderators can not be on Quotas and flagged content has some forum of appeal rights as well.

  • by DeplorableCodeMonkey ( 4828467 ) on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:08AM (#63646084)

    This is almost entirely a problem with "TikTok challenges." Note that TikTok in China does not allow these sorts of things to be done because the Chinese government would rain down felony charges on the executives and influencers who do things like encourage teens to try Tide pods, contaminate food at grocery stores by licking it and stealing Hyundais/Kias.

    To some degree, it's already prosecutable, and it shows a real weakness in American law enforcement that state and federal law enforcement aren't regularly hunting down some of these "TikTok challenge" influencers and prosecuting them.

    • This is almost entirely a problem with "TikTok challenges." Note that TikTok in China does not allow these sorts of things to be done because the Chinese government would rain down felony charges on the executives and influencers who do things like encourage teens to try Tide pods, contaminate food at grocery stores by licking it and stealing Hyundais/Kias.

      To some degree, it's already prosecutable, and it shows a real weakness in American law enforcement that state and federal law enforcement aren't regularly hunting down some of these "TikTok challenge" influencers and prosecuting them.

      Freedom of speech (or expression) was so important to the Founding Fathers of the USA that it is explicitly protected under the First Amendment of the Constitution.

      • by narcc ( 412956 )

        The freedom of expression doesn't mean you get to commit crimes without consequence.

        • The freedom of expression doesn't mean you get to commit crimes without consequence.

          In the USA it's not a crime to encourage someone else to do something stupid (such as eat laundry detergent pods). It's not even against the law to publish instructions on how to do something illegal (eg. bomb making instructions in the Anarchist's Bible). Freedom of expression does not mean freedom from consequences, though.

          • by narcc ( 412956 )

            In the USA it's not a crime to encourage someone else to do something stupid

            That's not entirely accurate. Incitement, for example.

  • by nospam007 ( 722110 ) * on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:11AM (#63646088)

    Because that's what it is.

    Parents, do your job, don't ask other people to do it for you.

    • by gtall ( 79522 )

      Ya, because kids would NEVER find a way to evade parental directives, presuming they are even living with their parents...or parent.

      • Ya, because kids would NEVER find a way to evade parental directives, presuming they are even living with their parents...or parent.

        I think the best option is to geoblock the British isles, and make using a VPN in them a criminal offense.

        In this way, we can block whatever content the English think of next as they think of the children.

    • by jenningsthecat ( 1525947 ) on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:35AM (#63646134)

      Because that's what it is.

      Parents, do your job, don't ask other people to do it for you.

      I truly have some sympathy for your position. But I'm also aware of how effective television advertising was back in the day at subverting parents' teachings and discipline. Even if the tube was turned off at home, kids would watch it at friends' houses. Restricting social interactions to thwart that would have been worse than letting them watch TV.

      Today, societal pressures make it damned hard to deny children their smartphones. Control over what the phone can access seems both difficult to implement and easy to bypass. Sure, parents need to take some responsibility - but AFAICT it's our entire corporation-serving consumerist culture that needs to wake up and pull the plug on the shit factories which suck money out of our pockets, time out of our lives, and life out of our children.

  • by Anonymous Coward on Friday June 30, 2023 @09:26AM (#63646108)
    Let's be honest about what the real aim is here, behind all this "think of the children" stuff.

    They want to make providing services for children so onerous and detrimental to services for adults, that social media and other providers will be forced to implement strict ID checking and quite possibly real name policies in order to keep the adults and the kids separate.

    No more being able to insult the great and the good online without them knowing exactly who you are.
    • ^^ This ^^

      The only way they can put such measures into place is by forcing everyone to provide an ID of some sort to prove they are an adult.
      As an adult, I have reservations about random websites having ( and more importantly storing ) sensitive personal information.

      The only way I would consider it is if something like HIPPA was applied to -everyone- who stores SPI of their customers. The fines for
      violating those rules are expensive and may actually force the website owners to actually put some real effort

      • by narcc ( 412956 )

        Why would "they" want that? What's the end goal?

        It's hilarious watching you anti-government nuts freak out about privacy when for years you've happily let multiple multinational corporations track everything you do online just so you can share stupid memes with people who barely know.

        You crackpots have been crowing about how the evil government is going to force you to validate your identity with every site you use online since the 90's and absolutely nothing like that has happened. What does that tell yo

      • by PPH ( 736903 )

        forcing everyone to provide an ID of some sort to prove they are an adult

        But children can't be forced to provide 'personal information'. I presume that this includes any sort of identification. When I created my Google account, I put my age down as 14 years old. So I won't get flooded with annoying ads and offers (can't enter into a contract, so sure, I'll click "Agree"). A few things are prohibited to me. But for those, I have an adult account. If I want to remain anonymous, I'm a kid again.

  • My name is Ttarmek the Greater Troll!

    I encourage all human children to do the "touch a greater troll challenge!" if you complete it you'll go viral and gain the approval of hundreds of thousands of strangers!! All you need to do is make a video saying you're doing the greater troll challenge and everyone else is too scared. Then search for trolls under bridges or in icy mountain top caverns!

    When you find a troll you need to sneak up on it until you're very close and shout "Troll Troll Troll you don't scare me!" (Be very loud!) this will stun the troll for 20 minutes and allow you and your friends to get the best videos for your bebos, tic-tacs, myspace, aols and all of those other cool places and then you can scurry along to safety without being eaten and everyone will think you are so cool! No cap! No cap! #YOLO

  • cunning stunts?

  • Even TFA doesn't say where this is happening. Presumably the UK, from context?

    The Guardian has gone down the shithole, it's the perfect source for Slashdot stories

  • STUPID laws (Score:4, Insightful)

    by v1 ( 525388 ) on Friday June 30, 2023 @10:14AM (#63646220) Homepage Journal

    How did ANY of us survive the 70s-80s while watching the bombardment of carnage and abuse in entertainment ? I don't think I can possibly count how many times I saw anvils getting dropped on heads, dynamite blowing people and various furries up, characters falling hundreds of feet to create craters in the ground, etc.

    Funny, I don't remember ever having the urge to drop an anvil on anyone's head? I never saw it IRL either... wow, how's that possible?

    Oh wait I forgot, my parents taught me common sense! Maybe THAT would be a good idea instead of trying to protect the children from entertainment? Parents teaching their kids how to be responsible adults with common sense... why can't we focus on encouraging THAT instead if this waste of time?

    I think right now what I need is to find a table to flip...

  • by Sloppy ( 14984 ) on Friday June 30, 2023 @10:20AM (#63646236) Homepage Journal

    (Reading this comment may kill you. Please consult a Reading Safety expert prior to reading this, to scan it for unescaped neurolinguistic imperatives.)

    It was inevitable. Desiccant packets say "do not eat." My bike helmet visor's directions is a list of paragraphs all of which contain something like "... failure to .. may result in serious bodily injury or death." Stupid people have always searched for ways to hurt themselves, and over the last century or so, our society decided that putting warning labels on everything was the solution. Now people are allowed to kill themselves, but can't say we didn't warn them. Obligation fulfilled. And as a result, we're all allowed to handle sharp objects instead of them being banned.

    You may disagree, but you'll be fighting a tradition that is older than you are.

  • by Art Challenor ( 2621733 ) on Friday June 30, 2023 @10:35AM (#63646266)

    Arisa Trew: 13-year-old skateboarder lands first female 720 in a competition

    https://www.bbc.com/news/av/wo... [bbc.com]

    Wait, wait, don't watch it, this is way too dangerous

  • Up next: police say children are doing "The Encryption Challenge" ....

  • by StreetFire.net ( 850652 ) on Friday June 30, 2023 @11:33AM (#63646392) Homepage

    This is the sort of legislation that makes it impossible to create competitors to incumbent social media platforms.

    In 2004 I created a UGC video sharing service, Vidiac.com that white labeled video sharing websites Like streetFire.net, and 4,000 other speciality video sharing websites which were popular pre-youTube.

    Back then we made a content moderation service so that site owners could keep content relevant to their site and remove the inevitable porn that would be uploaded. We had a small team of 3 Founder/developers and eventually grew to small team of 10 making a modest profit on 8Mmau after about $300K in friends and family funding.

    There is NO WAY you could make a web business like that today. You would spend 5 times as much funding just building the moderation system to be compliant with all the government oversight and you would likely need full time people just rejecting content and reporting misbehavior to the FBI, never mind having budget for development.

    YouTube as a site hasn't evolved a bit in basic UI/UX since it was acquired by Google and the only major new video service to come since has been TikTok. I'm convinced that all this authoritarian police state legislation has destroyed the evolution and improvement we used to see in UI/UX in the early 2000s. It has also entrenched the existing incumbent sites and there is little need for competition as there is nothing "next" for the user population to migrate to.

    When I see government getting involved into moderating the content of websites I just shake my head now at how high the barrier to entry has become to innovate.

  • No challenge videos should have been allowed.
  • This needs to be extremely well defined otherwise it will get used incorrectly. For example, YouTube said to congress that they were banning videos that said "Thou shall not kill" because it "involved killing" and tha twas not even just for kids but everyone. Similarly almost everything that involved violence on YouTube that was not made by a mainstream media corporation was being taken down for several years starting around 2020 and since. You want people to still get educated, not just be completely blind
  • ... drag racing [carthrottle.com]?

  • The whole tranny dick-chopping and breast removal, as well as the forced sterilization of kids as a "dangerous stunt"?

  • Skateboard and bicycle ramps are putting our children at risk.

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