Zuckerberg Under Fire in China After Report of Quest Sale Talks (bloomberg.com) 49
Mark Zuckerberg is in hot water in China-- again. From a report: An influential social media account affiliated with the official Beijing Daily on Wednesday raked the Meta Platforms founder over the coals for his previous criticisms of Chinese censorship and alleged intellectual property theft. The lengthy editorial emerged after the Wall Street Journal reported Meta was in talks with Tencent Holdings about helping sell the Quest VR headset in China, despite a block on its mainstay social media services from Facebook to Instagram.
Zuckerberg "dropped a rock on his own foot," the Beijing Daily said in a WeChat post that garnered more than 100,000 views. "You smashed the wok, and now you want to enjoy a Chinese meal?" Zuckerberg's relationship with China has run hot and cold. The Meta CEO was famously pictured jogging through a smog-filled Beijing and greeting then internet-czar Lu Wei at the height of a campaign to court officials in the world's largest internet arena.
Zuckerberg "dropped a rock on his own foot," the Beijing Daily said in a WeChat post that garnered more than 100,000 views. "You smashed the wok, and now you want to enjoy a Chinese meal?" Zuckerberg's relationship with China has run hot and cold. The Meta CEO was famously pictured jogging through a smog-filled Beijing and greeting then internet-czar Lu Wei at the height of a campaign to court officials in the world's largest internet arena.
Who do you root for? (Score:4, Interesting)
This is like a cage match involving a couple of kiddie fiddlers. The best outcome would be that they beat each other half to death, then both lose.
Re: Who do you root for? (Score:5, Insightful)
Re: Who do you root for? (Score:3)
How many people has Zuckerberg run over with tanks...?
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Between two evils, chose None.
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Between two evils, chose None.
If citizen voters were smart enough to do that, the United States of America would be running under strong leadership from an elected Independent party by now. We still elect "leaders" by falling for the Us vs. Them con in politics instead.
Hell, if you're not campaigning for the very soul of the nation while calling for the imprisonment of your "racist" political enemy and tossing their kids social media dirt around, you're not even trying to win an American political election.
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To be fair, most voters are not smart enough to understand that there are alternatives to "us vs. them" because that is how their small minds see the world.
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To be fair, most voters are not smart enough to understand that there are alternatives to "us vs. them" because that is how their small minds see the world.
To be fair, most citizens still represent the silent majority who don't even bother to vote, mostly because they already know their role now. They're also not being educated by the "news" outlets today regarding alternatives, by design.
Voting in general is casting a vote against a jerrymandered system. Doesn''t really matter how smart the voters are if enough corruption is allowed by design, and it is. Citizens have been reduced to playing the role of "voter" on the stage of Democracy. Nothing more. In
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You may not be aware of it, but voters are allowed to found new political parties and run for office. If the voters wanted to take over and get rid of the scum that currently runs the system, they could.
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You may not be aware of it, but voters are allowed to found new political parties and run for office. If the voters wanted to take over and get rid of the scum that currently runs the system, they could.
If a Trumpian-sized character failed to even find the drain plug in The Swamp, let's not pretend just any other voter could come close to succeeding either. That "take over" you speak of would have to include putting Greed N. Corruption's head on a pike after it was lopped off in the actual Town Square. Corruption has already seen how easy it is to placate and manipulate the masses otherwise.
Unfortunately the problem goes far beyond electing good leadership.
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But the problem is idiot voters. The rest just follows from that. It is convenient to blame others though.
Re: Who do you root for? (Score:1)
Re: Who do you root for? (Score:5, Informative)
Turns out you also can't choose Facebook either.
In the PRC, there is no choice.
On the internet, Facebook has its snooping everywhere.
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Plenty have chosen to not participate in Facebook or most other social media
Most of them are still getting tracked by Facebook via other sites using their tracking.
with zero measured impact on their lives (also known as how humans survived in the pre-internet era).
I can make a long list of very bad things humans had to deal with in the pre-internet era, but that would be boring. Suffice to say that not everything was better then.
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Most of them are still getting tracked by Facebook via other sites using their tracking.
To not get tracked by facebook it's as easy as using a VPN, using an adblocker, setting your browser to clear your cookies and cache every session, using some tab containers, and then logging in every session with saved credentials.
Each time I say this someone trots out the latest in browser fingerprinting or whatever. So before that happens: That's not how facebook builds profiles, they want to get good data and will happily let the weirdest 1% of internet users slip through their fingers if it means som
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You're either forced to participate in Facebook's snooping, or you're forced to buy into a VPN, many of which most users don't know whether they're legit or posing as secure.
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Given that both have no problems bending over for any authoritarian regime that comes their way, I have no idea who you think the better choice would be.
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So now Elon Musk is a "kiddie fiddler?" I gotta know, what did he do to earn your ire?
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Sorry, I heard "cage match" and thought the convo had referenced the Musk/Zuck cage match.
Anyway, in what way is the Zuck in any way comparable to the CCP?
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Why only half?
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Excellent question.
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Don't tell the truth about the Chinese (Score:2)
It only upsets them, and they have long memories...
Re:Don't tell the truth about the Chinese (Score:4, Insightful)
They only remember party-approved memories though, which may change in the future.
Don't blame Fuckerberg (Score:4, Funny)
"You smashed the wok, and now you want to enjoy a Chinese meal?"
He can't help it, he's a wokaholic.
Censorship? (Score:3)
Re:Censorship? (Score:5, Insightful)
I believe the Chinese call it policing disinformation.
Or "policing information the party disagrees with".
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That's what is *is*, but they *call* it "policing disinformation."
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That's what is *is*, but they *call* it "policing disinformation."
I was waiting for this response to show up, and you are 100% right.
Manufacturing can be done anywhere... (Score:2)
We used to do it here in America but it was more profitable to outsource it to Asia.
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Obviously because they can't block his style (Score:2)
Host: Uh, alright, can everyone hear me in the back? Hm'kay, we're gonna get started here. I know you all have a lot of questions, so without further ado, let me introduce Mark Zuckerberg. [Zuckerberg walks up] Thanks for coming, Mr. Zuckerberg.
Mark: [in a stilted manner. He speaks like this throughout the episode] Thank you. It is a great honor to be here amongst all of you. [immediately you can see his lips don't match his words]
Host: For t
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wat (Score:2)
If you Immediately know the candle light is fire, then the meal was cooked a long time ago.
Have to be kidding (Score:3)
However, if you do so, you can NOT expect to be doing business there, esp. when the government controls who you can talk to, and what you can do.
Zucks really kind of an idiot.
Huh, I would think that he is back here trolling, but those are all pro-chinese or working for Chinese CCP.
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Although it's worth noting that the importance of how Zuck *feels* about the Chinese government is a neat demonstration of how China lacks what we could call "the rule of law".
The fundamental feature of *our* concept rule of law is uniform applicability of laws to all persons. Another way to think of it is nobody is supposed to be systematically priveleged, or deprived of privileges arbitrarily. Now admittedly there's not a black or white distinction between what western democracies do and what China doe