Nissan To Go All-Electric By 2030 Despite UK's Petrol Ban Delay (bbc.com) 240
"Nissan will make the switch to full electric by 2030 in Europe. We believe it is the right thing to do for our business, our customers and for the planet," said Nissan's chief executive Makoto Uchida. The announcement comes despite the UK postponing its 2030 ban on the sale of new petrol and diesel cars to 2035. The BBC reports: In an interview with the BBC, Mr Uchida said the company was aiming to bring down the cost of electric vehicles for customers, so that they were no more expensive than petrol and diesel cars. "It may take a bit of time, but we are looking at the next few years," he said. "We are looking at it from the point of view of the technology, from the point of view of cooperating with suppliers, and of course working with the government on how we can deliver that kind of cost competitiveness to the consumer," Mr Uchida added. Will that price parity happen by 2030? "That's what we're aiming for," confirmed Mr Uchida.
Mr Uchida also said that the company was fast-tracking a different kind of battery technology, known as all-solid-state batteries (ASSB), which are lighter, cheaper, and quicker to charge. "We are going to have a pilot plant for ASSB in Japan from next year, and we want to ensure they can be mass produced by 2028," he said. "There are a lot of challenges with this, but we do have a solution, and we are on track [to meet that target]", he added.
Mr Uchida also said that the company was fast-tracking a different kind of battery technology, known as all-solid-state batteries (ASSB), which are lighter, cheaper, and quicker to charge. "We are going to have a pilot plant for ASSB in Japan from next year, and we want to ensure they can be mass produced by 2028," he said. "There are a lot of challenges with this, but we do have a solution, and we are on track [to meet that target]", he added.
Nissan Won't BE in the UK in 2030 (Score:3)
Tariffs, beginning at 10% going up to 25% in 2028 are going to hit in 3 months time.
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The tariffs go both ways and the UK is a big enough market to want to serve.
Or they could buy their batteries from Elon's German factory and avoid the tariffs.
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Sure, but the person I replied to was suggesting they'd leave the UK altogether.
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Sure, but the person I replied to was suggesting they'd leave the UK altogether.
And if they want to sell them anywhere else they most likely will.
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Sure, but the person I replied to was suggesting they'd leave the UK altogether.
Which is entirely probable. Nissan has less than 5% of the market these days with an array of boring, drab small SUVs (positively tiny SUV's compared to the US like the nausea inducing Juke). No family hatches, coupes, saloons or any other kind of car they're having their lunch eaten by the boring, drab small SUV's made by the Koreans. I think the value of a halo car is severely under rated, Toyota would be on it's way out too if it didn't have the Supra and 86 making headlines (Nissan never introduced the
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" the UK car industry will be reduced to 5 blokes in a shed in Leicestershire."
What about Aston Martin, Williams, McLaren, Red Bull and Mercedes Formula 1 teams.
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No family hatches, coupes, saloons or any other kind of car they're having their lunch eaten by the boring, drab small SUV's made by the Koreans.
Nissan has always, apparently, been bad at marketing. Every Nissan I've driven has been best-in-class in at least some way, usually several ways. But they don't get the word out and people don't even know about their vehicles. These days they mostly make a bunch of small econoboxes based on the same couple of platforms, all of which have CVTs... just like pretty much everyone else. So now I'm not sure they have anything left to market. Z cars are pretty decent, but frankly Nissan's wheelhouse is small pisse
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Long time Tesla owner here (Score:5, Interesting)
1) I love my model 3.
2) It is not appropriate for all transportation use cases normal people have.
Bad for long trips (anything over 90 minutes) and it's like driving a release candidate. Every OTA update is a fun new surprise which can sometimes change how existing features work or introduce new bugs.
For local driving it's fabulous. I charge at home off solar, pay nothing in maintenance although the warranty is fucking cheap ass after the base warranty expires. For mid range and longer trips, planning is required. Charge to 100% the night before. Calculate 2 way mileage vs. current (ever declining) max capacity, etc. And god forbid I'd want to cross the state (I have done this in multiple states) because then your route _must_ be on a super charger path and you get to twiddle for 30-60 minutes. For longer trips, I plan nothing. I hop in my ice, check gas once I'm moving, stop anywhere for 5m to fill up and go way longer on a tank between fill ups than the Tesla can go. And that's in a gas guzzler. If I was driving an efficient ice then I could go even further and there's always the option of carrying a gas can if I'm going through an area with no civilization.
Right now the Tesla can make it to/from the nearest major airport at 100% charge. Another 20 miles battery drop and airport runs are going to be extra painful, requiring a recharge stop, whereas a full tank in my ice gets me home with enough gas I can still drive locally for days without worry.
I'm guessing most people are going to be unhappy dealing with the downsides of EV life which are unlikely to be resolved by 2030 but best of luck to Nissan for giving it a go.
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2) It is not appropriate for all transportation use cases normal people have.
No vehicle is. I've rented a few fans in my time when I've needed a van, for example.
Either way we're talking about the UK here. The longest drive you can do without taking detours is Land's end to John o' Groats, a grand 870 miles or so. No one does that. The UK is not very big and pretty densely populated. Motorway services (with fast chargers) are not distantly spaced.
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"No vehicle is."
But ICE vehicles over more use cases than EVs right now.
" The UK is not very big and pretty densely populate"
When the average EV real (not WLTP) range is 200 miles in normal driving the UK is big enough for EVs to be impractical for long distance travellers particularly if they're returning the same day. And for people like me who take the car across the channel a lot they're next to useless. Good luck finding a charger in France.
"Motorway services (with fast chargers) are not distantly spa
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When the average EV real (not WLTP) range is 200 miles in normal driving the UK is big enough for EVs to be impractical for long distance travellers particularly if they're returning the same day.
Which covers 0.000000001% of the population. For the rest, buy a new petrol car in 2029, or second hand ones from 2030 onwards, until the problem sorts itself which it will because electric cars will be awfully common by then.
Oh sure, everyone wants to spend an hour at a service station instead of a splash and das
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When I do long runs in my car I rarely take a break. I've driven East Yorkshire to Edinburgh and back, a 650 mile round trip, to drop something off taking just 10 minutes off driving when I got to Edinburgh.
Good on you for endangering other road users. The mandatory commercial driver break isn't to fuck with you, it's because otherwise you'd be endangering other road users.
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Efficiency is relative, for you personally a couple % is important relative to your competition and earnings if you didn't achieve that efficiency. In the wider scheme setting all of you back a couple % only influences prices/GDP by a couple percent of a couple percent, because you're not the be all and end all.
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" There's a reason commercial drivers have legally mandated breaks."
Long distance communters or travelling reps are not classed as commercial drivers. I used to have a 60 mile each way commuter so 120 a day. Fine for an EV - for ONE day. Then I have to charge it and I can't do that at home, the office didn't have chargers so then what? Sit at a service station for an extra hour during my morning or evening commute? Fuck that.
But then you've already told me you don't own a car so what the fuck would you know
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Assuming a 30mpg car, 600 miles a week with gas at $3 a gallon thats $240 a month, 48 weeks working, thats $11,520 a year.
Assuming 3 miles per kwh with an average of $0.16 per kwh national average electricity cost, 200kwh a week, $2208 per year.
Even if you charged at superchargers at $0.50 per kwh it'd be $4800 per year.
Now these can all change and not everyone can install a charger in their house but that kind of commute is right in an EV wheelhouse so it's pretty easy to see the appeal if someones circums
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The OP was saying they don't want to have to sit in their car every workday and wait while the damn thing charges. They certainly have a point. Tesla recently put in a supercharger station nearby to a Target where I frequently go grocery shopping. Even though there's plenty of places to eat and shop within easy walking distance, most people seem to just stay in their cars and wait. That would get old really fast if it was part of your daily commute.
Besides, the value proposition of buying a BEV evaporat
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"Which covers 0.000000001% of the population."
That would be 0.7 people then?
If you had a car you'd know how busy the motorways are during the day with cars , never mind trucks , which tells you all you need to know.
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You're behind, it's above 0.8 since quite a while. What's a people people between friends?
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Good! I'm sick of morons thinking they are safe drivers trying to do a cannonball run. There's a reason commercial drivers have legally mandated breaks.
If I'm making an 8.5 hour road trip, stopping several times to wait for a battery to charge isn't going to make me feel more rested and alert, it would just add to the overall length of the trip. BEVs make a great secondary commuter vehicle and grocery getter, but ICE still rules the roost when it comes to hitting the open road.
Perhaps this matters less in the EU where I'm assuming (cut me some slack, I'm an American who doesn't earn enough to be a globetrotter) you can take a train for longer trips. Here
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If I'm making an 8.5 hour road trip, stopping several times to wait for a battery to charge isn't going to make me feel more rested and alert,
It doesn't matter how it makes you feel, it matters how it makes you act. There's plenty of research. After 8.5hrs your concentration will be substantially degraded, and the degradation really kicks in at around 2. Humans aren't good at judging their own state in this regard, so your feeling of how you are does not necessarily reflect how you actually are.
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I'm taking breaks when I need them, you're taking breaks when your car's battery needs them. I'll give you three guesses who's driving more safely.
You're taking breaks when you think you need them, not when you do. I'm the one driving more safely.
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Sounds more like you, for some reason, have absolutely no endurance....or perhaps have the bladder the size of a 9 year old girl.
You don't know your ability is impaired because your mental abilities are also impaired. It happens to everyone, some people are just in denial about it.
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Sounds more like you, for some reason, have absolutely no endurance
Sounds like you have an over inflated sense of your own endurance. There's a bunch of research, and people aren't good at estimating their own level of concentration. Plus drivers have egos the size of the sun and everyone thinks they're better than average.
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I'm taking breaks when I need them, you're taking breaks when your car's battery needs them. I'll give you three guesses who's driving more safely.
Easy! The safer one is taking more frequent breaks...
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This is what the EV people don't get.
AWD ICE (excluding some of these tiny-turbos) powered sedan or small sport utility, with seating for 5 or 6, can be pressed into service doing just about anything.
Is the *best* for clawing up some muddy dirt road to a little mountain in winter - no but you'll make it.
can i tow the boat trailer, not as easily as with the pickup especially in the hills, but it has the capacity and you could if you needed to.
its a great grocery getter
its fun turn on the sport mode and use t
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Whats that you say? Go have a coffee and pee and rest? Oh sure, everyone wants to spend an hour at a service station instead of a splash and dash.
Service station prices are bad enough as it is, can you imagine what they'll be like when they have a bunch of people who have to be there for an hour or more with fuck all else to do?
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ICE vehicles force you to make other compromises. You can't make the fuel at home, and in the UK there are rules about keeping significant amounts of petrol in your shed, so you can't really fill up at home either. The fuel is very expensive too.
You get a worse drive in most cases. Gears, complex engine that requires a lot of maintenance, poor torque at times.
The charging situation in the UK is a lot better now. Tesla opened their network up to everyone, and they aren't even the biggest one. While some area
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You can do a battery swap in 6 minutes flat. Those are live in Norway already, for Nio brand cars.
20-30 minutes is what it takes to get a coffee, grab a bite, use the loo etc. Given you only need to do it every 4-5 hours in the UK, it's considered quite reasonable.
This is all worst case of course. You only need to linger that long if you need another 200 miles of range, and assuming you didn't shell out for an even faster charging EV. With the new 800V models and a 400kW charger, 10 minutes is all you need
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Average distances by car per person in the UK have been steadily declining & average distances by rail increasing. The average journey time across all modes is 28 minutes so most EVs a
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Once 10C charging is everywhere it won't be a large difference any more, watch a few tiktoks and you're back nearly full.
Of course charging a lot of cars, let alone trucks, at 10C will cause problematic peakloads. For it to become common, fuel stations will likely need their own batteries and become part of grid smoothing.
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I'm not gonna judge - we all need a little personal boost from time to time. So if you need to hire some folks to cheer you on, go for it!
Re:Long time Tesla owner here (Score:5, Insightful)
it's like driving a release candidate. Every OTA update is a fun new surprise which can sometimes change how existing features work or introduce new bugs.
Cars should not be treated as software.
What Tesla does horrifies me and completely takes them out of my consideration. Unfortunately, I think more cars are following Tesla into enshittification. I want my car to be final and complete product, there should be no changes whatsoever for any interfaces, controls, or features unless I positively opt into such changes on a case by case basis.
Re:Long time Tesla owner here (Score:5, Informative)
The "driving a release candidate" is a side effect of owning a Tesla, and has nothing to do with EVs in general. I have no such issues with my F-150 Lightning... which I take on 4+ hour road trips all the time.
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Fair enough but how long have you owned it? Does it support OTA updates? If so, hold on to your hat!
Tesla updates seem to come in bursts, I assume due to their engineering cycle. There will be a release every few months almost always followed by 1 and often multiple bug fixes over the next 1-3 weeks.
I didn't get a chance to test it due to timing but I think the update from 10 days ago dramatically changed battery -> mileage calculations as suddenly I'd lost about 30% max mileage but it was magically b
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Thank you for saying all this. At least one honest voice of reason here.
Now, I'd like to add that all this inconvenience and inability to drive longer distances without worrying comes at a super high price.
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Bad for long trips (anything over 90 minutes)
Most new EVs get about 400 km range. Even with battery degradation, and going over the speed limit, you can still easily do 2h30 - 3h trips (250-300 km) without any worry. In fact you save time compared to gas because you don't have to stop to refuel for such a trip.
My last EV trip was exactly that. 80% charge was enough for a ~260 km drive. Charge at the hotel during the stay.
So EVs are great for trips under 3 hours. Hybrids get better for longer trips, but even up to 8-10h EVs are not that bad when using
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"Most new EVs get about 400 km range."
No they don't. Thats what the WLTP results might say but they're just fantasy. You'll be lucky to get 3/4 of the official range and in the winter probably 1/2.
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No, that's what the EPA says. The WLTP is more like 500+ km.
ID4, Bolt, Ioniq 5, EV6, Model 3, Kona, Polestar 2... they all get 400 km EPA, often more (especially 2 wheels drive).
And if you read my post, I never said that going 400 km is convenient. I considered a big margin (for higher speed, winter), so 250-300 km sounds like the perfect trip for an EV without any stop.
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and you get to twiddle for 30-60 minutes.
I thought at least newer teslas could charge to 80% in 25 minutes, and could add 200 miles in 15 minutes. Twiddling for 30-60 sounds like what I do in my Chevy Bolt, with its annoying 50kW charging speed cap. Why would you need to sit at a charger for an hour? And why would stopping every 200 miles to stretch for 15 minutes be an issue?
They can build all the electric cars they want (Score:2)
But until the charging infrastructure has *significantly* improved here in the UK few people will be buying them. Couple that with the fact that home charging is a non starter for people who live in flats (unless the landlord installs chargers) and terraced houses with no drive and no gauranteed parking in front of their house there's little incentive to buy an EV.
Sure, Tesla is opening up its supercharger network to non Teslas but thats a drop in the bucket compared to whats required. Then there's the issu
Re:They can build all the electric cars they want (Score:4, Interesting)
The framing of Sunak's decision for the delay by the left is so stupid. Sticking to 2030 when the EU settled on 2035 was stupid ... and normally they scream for EU harmonisation too. It was clearly the right decision and people who want to attack him over other decisions should just do so, instead of making themselves look silly and dragging this into it.
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It was stupid to cancel 2030, because it was one of the few advantages we had over the EU for car manufacturing and R&D.
Nissan took the opportunity to invest in going 100% electric by 2030. That requires the UK invest in infrastructure. Investment requires there to be a high probability of demand increasing. 2030 ensured that demand would be there, so the money went in.
There isn't much point sticking with the UK now. We will probably get hit with tariffs by the EU soon, and the EU has good charging infr
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I live on a road with terraced houses. People here own electric cars.
How do you think they charge?
It's lamp posts. The council has allowed companies to install chargers in lamp posts. There are plenty and charging seems to be no problem at all.
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"It's lamp posts. The council has allowed companies to install chargers in lamp posts. There are plenty and charging seems to be no problem at all."
Well isn't that nice and dandy for you. My council can't even get the bins emptied on time much less install lamp chargers and even if they did there's only about 1 lamp post per 5 houses so that'll really work a treat.
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even if they did there's only about 1 lamp post per 5 houses so that'll really work a treat.
Very few people need to charge daily. The average Brit drives 20 miles per day.
Well isn't that nice and dandy for you
Makes no odds as I own no car. On the other hand it gives me an answer to the "oh no whatever shall we do electric cars are impossible" whingers who don't actually know what existing solutions are already being deployed.
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"Very few people need to charge daily"
Irrelevant if they can never park next to it anyway.
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It's lamp posts. The council has allowed companies to install chargers in lamp posts. There are plenty and charging seems to be no problem at all.
Private profit from public infrastructure? Sounds about right.
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Private profit from public infrastructure? Sounds about right.
Well yeah. It could certainly be better, but we're most likely going from a Tory to a Blairite so I don't see that changing any time soon. Nonetheless people can still charge cars which is the point. It'll just be done in a shitty British way rather than done well, but that's not the fault of e-cars or charging infrastructure.
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It'll just be done in a shitty British way rather than done well
Now that's definitely right.
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Lamp posts have been used for this kind of thing for a long time. Companies attach sensors and radio repeaters to them. The council gets paid for the use, i.e. extra revenue from infrastructure that would otherwise be purely cost.
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So, exactly how many light poles do you have on a street? How close are they together?
I'm trying to figure out how a street lined fully with cars parked end to end can all hook up to a few light poles along the street...are there long charging cables hanging everywhere?
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Long cables, and they can install extra posts between them. The cabling for power is there.
There are also some councils that allow people to run charging cables over the pavement. It's a bit controversial. Obviously they have to be covered to prevent tripping. One option is to create a channel in the pavement to put the cable in, so it doesn't protrude. It can even be covered.
Another option I've seen a few times is overhead booms that swing out from the property.
Supermarkets have a role to play too. They al
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You don't generally need to charge daily. The average UK driving distance is 20 miles, or about 8 days worth on average, with the distance decreasing in more urban areas (those less likely to have off street parking).
So you only need to find a space once per car per week or so on average if that.
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u wot m8?
Parking on your road and leaving your car to charge vs driving to a petrol station. The former is definitely more convenient.
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Flats? I know two people with EVs and no off-road parking, and I fairly regularly see EVs parked outside on the road too. It's entirely do'able.
Grid? The head of the National Grid doesn't share
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"Grid? The head of the National Grid doesn't share your concern"
Liar. The NG could barely manage to supply the power last winter and it has no plans for the massive interconnectors required to charge EVs right now.
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To reiterate - they call it Myth 1. Also, you're aware that power usage for the UK is predicted to be coming down, not up right? And that peak power was in the 70s? So saying that couldn't cope in the past...yeah, once again the guy whose literal job i
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I don't know why these frankly debunked points keep cropping up.
It's a combination of companies which want to stick to ICEVs doing marketing which is repeated by numptys, and people who want to justify their bad decisions (whether personally, or in relation to issues like pollution) making shit up and also repeating the corporate bullshit in order to make themselves feel better.
More important than Nisan (Score:5, Interesting)
Sweet goodbye (Score:2)
...And the droning engine throbs in time
With your beating heart
Sing, Blue Silver
Sing, sing Blue Silver
People haven't read the ban details, have they? (Score:2)
In other words, headline grabbing by the UK government rather than meaningful shift. It's an electoral splash driven by a misguided reaction to a local by-election result here, which Labour lost prima
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which Labour lost primarily due to opposition on the expansion of the ultra-low emissions zone in London.
Evidence is strongly needed for that, even if people keep repeating this fundamentally Tory talking point as if it's gospel truth.
What we have is:
1. A pre existing 20,000 seat majority
2. A seat which has not returned anything other than a Tory MP for over 50 years, and prior to that Labour for only 18 of the 107 years of its existence
3. A split between the Green and Labour votes (who are much less differ
We've Reached the Tipping Point (Score:2)
The issue for car manufacturers in switching to EVs was always that auto manufacturers work in cycles of "platforms" and build each generation of car around a specific platform. For awhile there they had to shoehorn EVs into existing ICE platforms, and the result was a bunch of underwhelming frankensteins. But we are now reaching the point where manufacturers are rolling out their next-gen platforms, and they're having to make the call - go EV, or lock yourself into ICE for another generation. It's becoming
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That's also making the assumption that EVs are exactly what the majority of the
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The weird thing is some automakers are still hedging. Stellantis (Citroen / Peugeot / Fiat / Jeep) has a ICE / EV platform they're using for all their new EVs. So while they're launching a bunch of models, they're kind of crippled by relics of ICE design like transmission tunnels and other compromises.
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There’s not enough copper mined or mines being developed to switch to EVs.
All electric is the way to go (Score:2)
I had a plugin hybrid (Toyota Prius Prime) that was the worst car in my live, by a big mesure, but that was because it was a Toyota, not because it was a Hybrd.
Anyway, I change for a Ford Mach-e last month and already put more than 6000km on the counter by doing big trip on the weekend, once you got your way with how managing the charge stop, it's a real game changer to run on electricity. It cost me arround 5 by km instead of 50 by km on gas for a comparable car, and the cost of the car are comparable to a
What are they called? (Score:2)
Seems like they went out of their way to not call them ASS batteries.
Good luck with that UK (Score:2)
Rishi Sunak is rolling back on green measures in a desperate attempt to claw back votes from the far right. The sort of people who protest emissions regulations, see electric cars as a threat to their manhood and see climate change as a green conspiracy. Morons basically.
But it won't work for a few reasons, the primary one being the Conservatives will lose at the next election. People are utterly sick of them after the debacle of Brexit, COVID mismanagement, the likes of Boris Johnson & Liz Truss and a
No, that would be you (Score:2, Troll)
"Sunak has decided that cars and antienvironmentalism is to be the new culture war battleground."
Easy to say if you're some full of sh*t rich kid living at home or have a huge house with a drive where charging an EV is no problem. For those of us living in houses with no drive and little on street parking its another matter. Ditto flat dwellers.
" He couldn't have designed a move to undermine industry and leave it in Limbo while the rest of the world overtakes."
Horseshit. He's just brought it in line with th
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Easy to say if you're some full of sh*t rich kid living at home or have a huge house with a drive where charging an EV is no problem.
Well that shit is easy to say if you're a twat who doesn't read the news.
For those of us living in houses with no drive and little on street parking its another matter. Ditto flat dwellers.
Boo fucking hoo. I don't even have a car.
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So why has Sunak decided to try and outlaw primarily Labour run cities from setting 20mph zones. That has nothing to do with electric cars and everything to do with Sunak's car centric culture war which you're busy trying to deny the existence of.
Quelle surprise, says it all.
45% of people in the UK have access to a car with the portion without skewing strongly towards the poorer end of the population. Interesting how you love the Tory policies and deeply despise people without a car.
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Wow, how many straw men in one post?
"from setting 20mph zones"
In some cases they make sense, in some they don't. Other than that , I don't care, I'm talking about EVs.
"45% of people in the UK have access to a car"
And?
"poorer end of the population"
Go to any council estate and look at the number of cars parked in it. Poor is relative in the UK and most employed people can afford to run an old banger.
" Interesting how you love the Tory policies"
Another straw man
" and deeply despise people without a car."
No, I
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In some cases they make sense
And yet Sunak wants to ban it anyway. Something you appear to support.
Go to any council estate
Hey there person with facts, I demand you go and find a single anedote which doesn't match the actual statistics!
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"And yet Sunak wants to ban it anyway. Something you appear to support."
Copy and paste where I said that.
Oh, thats right, you can't, because your arguments consist of nothing but juvenile straw men.
"Hey there person with facts"
Hey, there's a rich kid who's never been to one much less visited one.
Go back to your xbox sonny.
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Copy and paste where I said that.
I was talking about Sunak's policies and you started arguing with me. It's clear enough.
Hey, there's a rich kid who's never been to one much less visited one.
Well if the person you're arguing with won't find anecdotes which contradict the national statistics then fling poo. No wonder you want to defend the Tory policies so much.
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I have evidence: the charging points in the lamp posts on my road don't exist. True story...
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The 2030 cut-off was supposed to spur infrastructure investments so that people like you can charge at home.
For example, in Norway they require flats to have charging available, charged on your home energy bill so you get your normal rate. Residential streets without driveways have been getting rows of chargers installed.
With a deadline it gives the government the political capital to pass laws requiring infrastructure to be installed, and to fund it.
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Knowing the Tories they'd ban the (mostly labour) town councils from implementing such a measure because it would cut into the profits of their donors.
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Do they currently have fuel pumps next their properties?
He's just brought it in line with the EU at 2035 which is what most car companies were working towards anyway.
Nope because other rules in place dictate sales of EVs will still force the 2030 time line. Its all smoke and mirrors to fool the gullible
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Starmer appears to be Tory-lite, like Tony Blair, so don't expect much to change. :(
Can't stand the fucker. On the other hand the day when he replaces the Tories can't come soon enough, frankly. Starmer might be bad but they aren't in any measure equal.
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Not sure about UK politics, but government here keeps shutting down roads and building bike lanes everywhere. Only we have snow for at least 5 months of the year, so these ended up as a snow overflow dumping grounds, made plowing much more complicated and costly, and make getting around on food in the winter harder. So yeah, I would like more Sunaks here.
If you are trying to ride around on a giant marrow then I think you have more pressing issues.
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Not sure about UK politics, but government here keeps shutting down roads and building bike lanes everywhere. Only we have snow for at least 5 months of the year, so these ended up as a snow overflow dumping grounds, made plowing much more complicated and costly, and make getting around on food in the winter harder.
No that doesn't follow. Snow doesn't mean they end up as snow overflow covered dumping grounds. That's your local municipality choosing to use them as a snow dumping ground. They could choose to
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As an American who doesn't pay a lot of attention to the details of UK politics, I seem to recall you had the option of a head of lettuce at one point. You might want to take another look at that.
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HAS ANYONE STOPPED TO DO THE MATH ON THIS?
Yes, obviously someone did this. The difference was that, unlike you, they are actually able to do the maths.
A typical EV consumes in the order of 4,000 kWh of power a year, so 1,000,000,000 cars will consume 4,000,000,000,000 kWh or 4,000 TWh. That may sound sound like a lot, but given that the annual electricity consumption in 2022 was 25,350 TWh, it doesn't seem insurmountable. A global 16% increase in electricity production certainly doesn't require the pretty outlandish numbers you just quoted. For
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Tesla claim about 50 miles range for a 17.5kW charger. This means you're recharging 200 miles per day per car.
The average American driver drives less than a sixth as far per day as you do. Your numbers are vastly overestimating the average for the population.
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I build offgrid setups for a living and am living on 1200ah of LifePO4 as I write this. 7 years offgrid. A Tesla charger consumes 17.5KW, that's 51,135 kWh per year @8hrs a day (Two Cars). Aka, Over 4000kwh PER MONTH.
What the h*ll are you smoking? Of course a Tesla doesn't consume 4,000 kWh/month. Why aren't you doing some basic sanity checking on these "calculations" you conjure up? A Tesla Model S will go 5 km / 3.1 miles on a kWh (I would know. I've driven one for 8 years now). If you are using 4,000 kWh/month that would be almost 240k km or 150k miles PER YEAR!. Nobody does that. Here're some numbers for the US [dot.gov]. We're pretty far from 150k miles/year. In fact, the average of 4,347 comes pretty close to the 4,000 I s