China Claims World's Fastest Internet With 1.2 Terabit-Per-Second Network (bloomberg.com) 45

Posted by msmash on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:20AM from the breakthrough dept.

Huawei and China Mobile have built a 3,000 kilometer (1,860-mile) internet network linking Beijing to the south, which the country is touting as its latest technological breakthrough. From a report: The two firms teamed up with Tsinghua University and research provider Cernet.com to build what they claim is the world's first internet network to achieve a "stable and reliable" bandwidth of 1.2 terabits per second, several times faster than typical speeds around the world. Trials began July 31 and it's since passed various tests verifying that milestone, the university said in a statement.

Tsinghua, Chinese President Xi Jinping's alma mater, is plugging the project as an industry-first built entirely on homegrown technology, and credits Huawei prominently in its statement. The Chinese firm in August made waves when it released a 5G smartphone with a sophisticated made-in-China processor, inspiring celebration in Chinese state and social media. That event also spurred debate in Washington about whether the Biden administration has gone far enough in attempts to contain Chinese technological achievement.

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Yeah, yeah. (Score:1)

by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:

Remember how China claimed they are the largest pig iron producer, with a foundry in every backyard?
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  by XXongo ( 3986865 ) writes:
  
  Remember how China claimed they are the largest pig iron producer, with a foundry in every backyard?
  Fastest internet ever... but you can only access WeChat; everything else is firewalled off.
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    by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
    
    Still, you can bet that the members of the Inner party will have access to everything we do, and probably more.
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    by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
    
    There's a lot of piracy too. For example, Game of Thrones was shown on Chinese streaming, but censored to remove a lot of the nudity and sex, and some of the gorier bits. Naturally, fans were not happy about that, so piracy with fan-made subtitles was rampant.
So Fast It Finishes Your Searches Before You Start (Score:2)

by Press2ToContinue ( 2424598 ) writes:

Breaking News: China's new 1.2Tbps network can stream all seasons of 'Firefly' in less time than it takes for a Star Trek fan to explain why Kirk is better than Picard. In related news, sysadmins across the globe are flocking to China, attracted by the prospect of faster-than-light ping times and the ability to download the entire Internet for offline browsing during lunch breaks. Rumor has it that this network is so advanced, it automatically unsubscribes you from those pesky Nigerian prince emails. Meanwh
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  by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes: on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:30AM (#64007237)
  
  The joke's on them, Firefly had only one season.
  
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      by XXongo ( 3986865 ) writes:
      
      The joke's on them, Firefly had only one season.
      Which is a travesty. The first thing I would do with AI is to create new seasons of Firefly!
      Should be easy for an AI. Download the entire run of "Gunsmoke" and just substitute in characters. For some variation, add in a few episodes of Wagon Train (although that might be better for creating new seasons of ST:TOS).
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      by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
      
      Too late for Nandi...
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        by AsylumWraith ( 458952 ) writes:
        
        Too soon man, too soon.
        
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        by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
        
        Come on, she was the best thing in the show.
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    by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) writes:
    
    Surely you must be joking! And yes, I am calling you "Shirley".
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      by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
      
      Sadly, I'm not. Who's Shirley?
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        by brianjdev ( 7157877 ) writes:
        
        Donâ(TM)t call me Shirley
        
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        by Mr. Dollar Ton ( 5495648 ) writes:
        
        Okay, Kaywinnet.
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  by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes:
  
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  by jonadab ( 583620 ) writes:
  
  Yes, it's amazing how much faster the internet becomes, when sites like Facebook and YouTube are entirely eliminated.
tech support? (Score:2)

by ole_timer ( 4293573 ) writes:

try calling tech support...
Actually 0 bps Internet (Score:1)

by madbrain ( 11432 ) writes:

Thanks to the Great firewall .
Competition (Score:5, Informative)

by jd ( 1658 ) writes: <<moc.oohay> <ta> <kapimi>> on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @10:45AM (#64007269) Homepage Journal

Japan: 319 terabits per second
https://www.freethink.com/hard... [freethink.com]
ESNet stable speed: 46 terabits per second
https://newatlas.com/telecommu... [newatlas.com]
University College London: 178 terabits per second
https://www.ucl.ac.uk/news/202... [ucl.ac.uk]

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  by muh_freeze_peach ( 9622152 ) writes:
  
  Experimental speeds in lab settings are neat. This is a real world application.
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    by Anonymous Coward writes:
    
    "Real world" nominal capacity of several transatlantic cables are in excess of 100Tb/s
    link to wiki [wikipedia.org]
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    by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) writes:
    
    The ESN is working today. Granted it is not for general use but it is working.
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  by sdinfoserv ( 1793266 ) writes:
  
  In the US however - Ajit Pai, Trump appointee as the FCC Chairman, former Verizon lobbyist/lawyer, and killer of Net Neutrality considers 3 megabits per second "broadband" and sufficient. https://www.theverge.com/2021/... [theverge.com]
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    by serafean ( 4896143 ) writes:
    
    Backbone is different from last mile.
    The 3bs figure you cite is upload. 25/3 mbps is the complete figure.
    25mbps down really should be enough for normal "critical" use (banking, e-gov, basic videocalls ... )
    The 3mbps up is way too low. I'd argue 20/10 would be a better bandwidth split.
    Now, for the rest of the definition (speeds available in any part of the census block), that's just horrendous.
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      by smooth wombat ( 796938 ) writes:
      
      25mbps down really should be enough for normal "critical" use (banking, e-gov, basic videocalls ... ) The 3mbps up is way too low. I'd argue 20/10 would be a better bandwidth split.
      
      Carriers assured us if they received hundreds of millions of taxpayer dollars in 1996 they would get us 45/45 broadband speeds within a few years.
      
      Here we are, 27 years later and we're haggling about whether 25mbps is a good speed or not for basic connectivity.
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      by hdyoung ( 5182939 ) writes:
      
      3 mps is obviously a corporate-shill number. From a user perspective, I would designate 25mps as “full broadband”. That streams a full 4k video in real time, I think. That’s arguably the highest bandwidth real-time thing any normal user might do. Anything past that is just icing on the cake.
      
      Banking and e-gov would probably be fine at 0.1mps. Those applications dont burn any significant data at all. Videoconferencing is somewhere in between. The only people who want to videocon in 4k ar
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        by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes:
        
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        by serafean ( 4896143 ) writes:
        
        you couldn't without extending browser timeouts, and praying servers have long enough timeouts.
        I tried...
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        by jd ( 1658 ) writes:
        
        A family of 5 in a middle-class household might have 3 4k TVs operating simultaneously.
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  by ZerXes ( 1986108 ) writes:
  
  A LAN Party in Sweden 5 years ago: 1.6 terabits per second. https://news.cision.com/tele2-... [cision.com]
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  by LordHighExecutioner ( 4245243 ) writes:
  
  I am connected to internet with a Bell202, you insensitive clod!
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  by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) writes:
  
  These are just lab experiments though. Huawei has actually deployed this in the real world. And not just the fibre optic transceivers capable of this level of performance, but the associated router hardware needed to actually use it too.
  On the consumer side, Huawei is selling 50Gbps passive optical network (PON) hardware too, which is what is used to connect home broadband subscribers up. As far as I'm aware the next fastest system deployed anywhere is 20Gbps in Japan.
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    by jd ( 1658 ) writes:
    
    ESNet is not a lab experiment but an actual deployed network between scientific establishments.
Dammit, learn to use standard units! (Score:2)

by jddj ( 1085169 ) writes:

I'm gonna need that in LoC-seconds (Libraries of Congress per second)!
Meanwhile... (Score:2)

by jonlyons85 ( 10383095 ) writes:

Here in the USA you still struggle to find a home router with better than 1-gigabit ports.
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  by account_deleted ( 4530225 ) writes: on Wednesday November 15, 2023 @02:21PM (#64007869)
  
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    by Bert64 ( 520050 ) writes:
    
    lower latency and better peering would be far more useful than higher last mile throughput.
Ever try to buy a 400gb ONT? (Score:2)

by thogard ( 43403 ) writes:

For some odd reason there isn't a huge market for home grade 400 gb optical modems. Buying one seems impossible and even putting one together isn't a trivial task. The network cards are still about $1.5k per port. It takes 16 channels of PCIe5 per interface and enough cpu to control the packet flow.
Most fiber today can deal with 60 channels of 400 gb for a total 24Tbit per fiber. Most ISPs will split that 400 into 4x 100gb because the equipment to manage it is cheaper. There is some 800g stuff around b
Telia Sonera (Score:2)

by LostMyBeaver ( 1226054 ) writes:

They went 400Gb/s about 8 years ago and at the time, they were procuring 4 sets of optics for their trans-siberian link. Which means they've done 1.6Tb/sec for some time.
Heh. (Score:2)

by Motleypuss ( 10291831 ) writes:

[joke]Guess they've been putting Go-Faster Stripes on their routers and along their cables.[/joke]

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