James Cameron Loves Apple's Vision Pro. But Will It Be Addictive? (vanityfair.com) 127
James Cameron tells Vanity Fair's Nick Bilton that his experience with Apple's Vision Pro "was religious. I was skeptical at first. I don't bow down before the great god of Apple, but I was really, really blown away... I think it's not evolutionary; it's revolutionary. And I'm speaking as someone who has worked in VR for 18 years."
He explained that the reason it looks so real is because the Apple Vision Pro is writing a 4K image into my eyes. "That's the equivalent of the resolution of a 75-inch TV into each of your eyeballs — 23 million pixels." To put that into perspective, the average 4K television has around 8 million pixels. Apple engineers didn't slice off a rectangle from the corner of a 4K display and put it in the Apple Vision Pro. They somehow compressed twice as many pixels into a space as small as your eyeball. This, to people like Cameron who have been working in this space for two decades, "solves every problem."
But even with all this wonder, with 23 million pixels that are so clear and crisp that you can't tell reality from a digital composite of it.... the more I've used the Apple Vision Pro over the past two weeks, the more one glaring problem revealed itself to me. It's not the weight (which is a problem but will come down over time), or the size (which will shrink with each iteration), or the worry that it will drive us to consume more content alone (almost half of Americans already watch TV alone). Or how tech giants like Meta, Netflix, Spotify, and Google are currently withholding their apps from the device. (Content creators may come around once the consumers are there, and some, like Disney, are already embracing the device, making 150 movies available in 3D, including from mega-franchises like Star Wars and Marvel.) And it's not even the price, because if Apple wanted to, the company could subsidize the cost of the Apple Vision Pro and it would have about as much financial impact as Cook losing a nickel between his couch cushions.
I'm talking about something that I don't see a solution for... I can see a day when we all can't imagine living without an augmented reality. When we're enveloped more and more by technology, to the point that we crave these glasses like a drug, like we crave our iPhones today but with more desire for the dopamine hit this resolution of AR can deliver. I know deep down that the Apple Vision Pro is too immersive, and yet all I want to do is see the world through it. "I'm sure the technology is terrific. I still think and hope it fails," one Silicon Valley investor said to me. "Apple feels more and more like a tech fentanyl dealer that poses as a rehab provider." Harsh words, but he feels what we all feel, a slave to our smartphone, and he's seen this play before and he knows what the first act is like, and the second act, and he knows how it ends.
But even with all this wonder, with 23 million pixels that are so clear and crisp that you can't tell reality from a digital composite of it.... the more I've used the Apple Vision Pro over the past two weeks, the more one glaring problem revealed itself to me. It's not the weight (which is a problem but will come down over time), or the size (which will shrink with each iteration), or the worry that it will drive us to consume more content alone (almost half of Americans already watch TV alone). Or how tech giants like Meta, Netflix, Spotify, and Google are currently withholding their apps from the device. (Content creators may come around once the consumers are there, and some, like Disney, are already embracing the device, making 150 movies available in 3D, including from mega-franchises like Star Wars and Marvel.) And it's not even the price, because if Apple wanted to, the company could subsidize the cost of the Apple Vision Pro and it would have about as much financial impact as Cook losing a nickel between his couch cushions.
I'm talking about something that I don't see a solution for... I can see a day when we all can't imagine living without an augmented reality. When we're enveloped more and more by technology, to the point that we crave these glasses like a drug, like we crave our iPhones today but with more desire for the dopamine hit this resolution of AR can deliver. I know deep down that the Apple Vision Pro is too immersive, and yet all I want to do is see the world through it. "I'm sure the technology is terrific. I still think and hope it fails," one Silicon Valley investor said to me. "Apple feels more and more like a tech fentanyl dealer that poses as a rehab provider." Harsh words, but he feels what we all feel, a slave to our smartphone, and he's seen this play before and he knows what the first act is like, and the second act, and he knows how it ends.
- Political blogger Taegan Goddard says the Vision Pro "offers a glimpse of how we might use computers in the future. If you're skeptical — and many people are — you need to try it before drawing any conclusions. It's hard to explain unless you've worn it. But I can assure you, it's mind-blowing."
- Apple CEO Tim Cook tells Bilton "You can actually lay on your sofa and put the displays on your ceiling if you wish. I watched the third season of Ted Lasso on my ceiling and it was unbelievable!"
- Dan Ives, a senior analyst at the investment firm Wedbush Securities, tells Bilton, "We think a few years from now it'll resemble sunglasses and be less than $1,500."
Right, uh huh, sure. (Score:4, Funny)
"We think a few years from now it'll resemble sunglasses and be less than $1,500." ... where is my flying car damnit?!
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It's like that meme: "Place/Place, Japan" but it's "Thing/Thing designed by Apple in California"
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This is an ADVERTISEMENT
So sez the COWARD.
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It's not super surprising that an investment analyst doesn't understand optics.
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It's also not super surprising that this analyst's imagination could only take him as far as "hey let's shove this into some Ray-Bans!" instead of the much more useful and marketable (and still impossible with current tech) AR-projecting contact lenses or eye implants.
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An eye implant in a few years is probably possible, except there's no market for it. I'm sure this guy knows about contact lenses, but he figured sunglasses in a few years was a more reasonable prediction.
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"We think a few years from now it'll resemble sunglasses and be less than $1,500." ... where is my flying car damnit?!
The glasses will be the HUD for your flying car, should you be one of the exceptionally privileged persons allowed to operate it manually.
Flying car? (Score:2)
Well, you can see cars flying in AR, or you can see yourself flying in a car in VR. Isn't that good enough?
Re: Flying car? (Score:2)
If you drive a regular car while wearing AR glasses, it might fly off a bridge. Does that count?
Re:Right, uh huh, sure. (Score:4, Interesting)
If the technology road map is accurate, yes this will come down in cost once the early adopters get burned ... like the iPad and iPad Pro (see Pencil2) ... like the AppleTV ... like the iPod ... like the iPhone ... like the Apple Watch ... Like the early Intel Mac's
If there is one absolute consistent truth about Apple, is that the first version of something new they come out with, is kinda terrible. Looks cool, but gets depreciated almost immediately in favor if a slightly better device that lasts longer.
I for one was not excited about the iPhone and it took me 8 years to want one. Why? Because I knew the lifecycle of 3G and was going to wait until whatever came out next (LTE) before jumping on that ship. I bought MacMini's 6 years apart, but then stopped because of the switch to ARM and I was going to sit back and wait until they do AV1 encoding before buying one.
So for me, I'm going to wait for the Vision Pro's third generation before investing in one, because knowing Apple, the people who buy the first one are going go for the throat about it's limited memory/storage capacity, like they have with the MacBook/iMac/MacMini entry level units.
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Even at $1,500, will there be much incentive to spend that much on it?
So far there are no killer apps for most people. Some niche stuff like people who want a virtual desktop while they are flying, but nothing mass market. A headset costing a few hundred bucks is enough to view VR porn on, or play low end VR games.
Maybe some kind of in-vision status display would be nice, but I'd want excellent battery life (Vision Pro is about 2 hours) and extremely light weight (I already pay more for light weight prescri
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If there is one absolute consistent truth about Apple, is that the first version of something new they come out with, is kinda terrible. Looks cool, but gets depreciated almost immediately in favor if a slightly better device that lasts longer.
Cool thing gets cooler with subsequent generations.
Film at 11.
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That is one way to look at it. Or it will come down in price after the early adopters have gotten to use it long before the more cost sensitive consumers. Maybe some (or most) of the early adopters actually put more value on using the thing for a few months/years/decades then they do on the higher cost.
I'm sure some early adopters don't realize that there are likely going to be future cheaper versions. I'm sure even fewer realize that th
One question (Score:4, Insightful)
Why should I give a fuck about James Cameron's opinion?
Re:One question (Score:5, Insightful)
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Indeed. His opinion is unimportant precisely because it is predictable. This is the man who pushed watching movies in the theatre with 3D glasses on us, so why wouldn't he endorse these 3D glasses?
The 3D craze is a large reason for why movie theatres are practically dead today. I will never forgive him for it.
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He can operate deep sea submersible without it imploding. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Re:One question (Score:4, Interesting)
The deep sea submersible quality has nothing to do with him, though. It is built in Sydney, Australia, by the research and design company Acheron Project Pty Ltd and paid for by a US geographic society and Rolex.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Re:One question (Score:5, Funny)
I listen only because the guy is really demanding and will not fear talking negatively. He's had some experience with the problem space of 3D immersion and worked a long time on creating fictional worlds... that are enough for some people to get a little too excited about. I seem to be one of the few who's not excited about his Dances With Smurfs movie series; it's not bad and are top quality productions (haven't seen the 2nd movie yet, I assume it's still good.)
I do wonder if I should consider this instead of buying some large pro-level monitors since I could have 3 of such monitors go anywhere I do and make an airplane trip actually productive... possibly... if it could cancel out noise and if coach has enough space for a laptop anymore. I thought they'd have some better sound... Can I wear it for 16 hours in a day... probably not. So it's not replacing monitors just yet.
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I do wonder if I should consider this instead of buying some large pro-level monitors since I could have 3 of such monitors go anywhere I do and make an airplane trip actually productive... possibly... if it could cancel out noise and if coach has enough space for a laptop anymore. I thought they'd have some better sound... Can I wear it for 16 hours in a day... probably not. So it's not replacing monitors just yet.
You get one monitor. For noise canceling, use the newest AirPods Pro. The speakers that come with it are good, but they're not sealed, so the sound will leak somewhat. At home it doesn't matter much, but on an airplane you'd want the earbuds for both reasons.
It's too heavy to wear all day. I've found so far that after a couple of hours or so I want to take it off for a bit, even when laying down. It's a truly amazing product, but it's still gen 1. in a couple of years or so it should be much better.
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It's too heavy to wear all day. I've found so far that after a couple of hours or so I want to take it off for a bit, even when laying down. It's a truly amazing product, but it's still gen 1. in a couple of years or so it should be much better.
I take it you're not aware that 3D video goggles like this have been around since at least the 1980s. This is not a "gen 1" product by any means. It's the latest in a long series of devices that have always flopped.
Maybe they'll be useful in another decade or two.
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Have you used other VR sets and could compare the two?
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The guy into Apple products calling out others as being dumb is rich.
Dude, you bought an Apple product.
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The guy who thinks buying an Apple product is automatically equivalent to being dumb is rich.
Dude, there are valid reasons why people buy Apple products. The fact that they don't seem worthwhile to you personally is irrelevant; you are not the be-all and end-all of technology users, and it's dumb to imagine that you are.
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The guy who thinks buying an Apple product is automatically equivalent to being dumb is rich.
That's because of all the money he saved not buying Apple products.
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So yes, this is like comparing the early EVs to the Model T; and like those, they're decades removed from being truly useful. But sure, keep on being
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Apples to oranges. Model-Ts to EVs. But hey, don't let me dissuade you from thinking you're the smartest guy in the room who confuses contrarianism with intelligence.
This!
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I do wonder if I should consider this instead of buying some large pro-level monitors since I could have 3 of such monitors go anywhere I do and make an airplane trip actually productive... possibly... if it could cancel out noise and if coach has enough space for a laptop anymore. I thought they'd have some better sound... Can I wear it for 16 hours in a day... probably not. So it's not replacing monitors just yet.
You get one monitor. For noise canceling, use the newest AirPods Pro. The speakers that come with it are good, but they're not sealed, so the sound will leak somewhat. At home it doesn't matter much, but on an airplane you'd want the earbuds for both reasons.
It's too heavy to wear all day. I've found so far that after a couple of hours or so I want to take it off for a bit, even when laying down. It's a truly amazing product, but it's still gen 1. in a couple of years or so it should be much better.
Is it smart enough to hand-over its audio to AirPods/$RANDOM_BT_EARBUDS when they are Paired and Activated?
Can you name me a single Display Device or Method that Optical Experts don't recommend taking periodic breaks from?
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Because we live in a world where if you've been rather successful at business or entertaining people, your opinion carries more weight than the average Joe. Now personally, I'd rather hear the opinion of this thing by someone who had to bust his ass to earn that $3,500 rather than from someone where it's just coming out of their massive pile of hookers and blow money.
But something tells me if you do have to hustle to earn $3,500, it's gonna be really difficult to justify spending it on this toy in the firs
Re: One question (Score:2)
Challenge: you'd rather hear or from someone who was biased enough to spend a large part of their income on this product. And who may, after buying it, have a greater psychological incentive to promote it.
As opposed to someone like Cameron, who has enough money to live a thousand lifetimes.
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How so?
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In other words, he's religiously attached to the idea that 3D is the second coming. Gotcha.
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In other words, he's religiously attached to the idea that 3D is the second coming. Gotcha.
In other words, he can spot crap a mile away.
Has he ever waxed rhapsodic about any other VR/AR Headset?
I think not. In fact, not that long ago, he was decidedly down on the state of VR Tech:
https://www.tweaktown.com/news... [tweaktown.com]
And as far as an opinion from someone with their finger on current AR/VR Tech, look no farther than Ben Lang, who, since 2011, has been the Publisher of the Blog "RoadToVR":
https://www.roadtovr.com/apple... [roadtovr.com]
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Listen here Sonny. The man almost had an English degree, just 2 or 3 more years of college. He also drove a truck before figuring out, all by himself, how to point a camera.
You think that kind of genius and visionary can't recognize the brilliance of a product he was definitely not paid to use (especially since he got it before the general public). You think they would just go and give him technical jargon to repeat that make perfect quotes for fluff articles?
The VR headset gives you the ability to watch
Re: One question (Score:2)
He is a videographer who has worked in 3D more than pretty much anyone, with an effectively unlimited budget to pick up any device he wants â" not to mention accessing various prototypes. He might not be the *most* qualified reviewer, but he definitely is a qualified reviewer. He has zero incentive to sugar coat his answers, given all the 3D tech he has panned in the past.
Two Apple ads in 3 days? (Score:5, Insightful)
I guess Apple pays well...
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It's almost like a hotly anticipated product in the tech world is something that is usually discussed on Slashdot. I know I'm shocked too. I thought this was a site about arguing politics. No one told me we'd be discussing current developments in tech here. Maybe it's time to leave.
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apple is a PR company after all
It sure wasn't the PR department that was granted over 5,000 Patents on this one Product.
Moron.
Addictive? (Score:3, Interesting)
to the point that we crave these glasses like a drug, like we crave our iPhones today
I was 43 when the first iPhone was released. As such I did not grow up with a smartphone and I don't find myself addicted to it. When I'm at home the phone goes into the charging cradle and stays there until I leave the house or go into the shop.
Perhaps smartphone addiction is a generational thing?
Re:Addictive? (Score:5, Insightful)
Perhaps smartphone addiction is a generational thing?
Smartphone addiction is a non-nerd thing.
As a nerd, I'm addicted to my computer, not my phone.
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Re:Addictive? (Score:5, Interesting)
The danger is not addiction for you. The greater danger is that everyone else around you is losing the ability to distinguish reality from fiction, and the practice to make their own decisions independent of the local digital construct. That impacts you because you live in this world, and the decisions of others control your outcomes and those of your children.
Today people's beliefs and ideas are shaped by great waves of social media where facts come in many alternatives to suit the propaganda pool in which they happen to live. This encourages groupthink and uniformity, and messes with their ability to calibrate their worldview independently. This affects you when such people vote and also when they act accordingly with guns and money.
Tomorrow people's reliance on AR will completely atrophy their ability to recognize the real world and reason about it logically. Computer overlays will create a generation who doesn't trust what they see with their own two eyes, unless the invisible floating windows that exist only in their heads and devices tell them it's ok.
You might think I'm exagerating about AR, but it's a very small step from where we already are today. People trust an incorrect Google Maps itinerary on their phone even when there are physical road signs directly contradicting it. Realtime weather forecasts and traffic forecasts are often believed even when a quick look outside the window contradicts the forecast.
In the future, some people may well be trapped in a room with an unlocked door, because the AR is telling them it's locked. Don't believe it? Try mounting a door handle upside down, and see how many people think the door is actually locked. Expectation from the past is a powerful thing, even without AR.
You are lucky to be old enough that you will die before the worst of it, (if this trend continues). Because the endgame of intermediating via realtime computer networks is Zombieland, where perfectly healthy and normal people live in a private fantasy world 24/7 and act like mindless hordes of puppets in the real world, floating on waves of partially synchronized and partially contradictory information flows. It will suck to be a low tech outsider, surrounded by all this.
Re:Addictive? (Score:4, Interesting)
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Umm, that's why people are driving down walking tracks, driving into rivers, demanding tenants of random houses return their iPhone and ignoring wind-chilling storm-clouds: The computer told them to, the computer knows all. It's like half the population will worship anything that can say "I have the answer"; a book, a hippie, an anonymous conspiracy theorist, a database that gives turn-by-turn 'answers'. (Notice, the last reason causes most technology failures.)
Expectation from the past ...
This is the same problem, "it worked last t
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Re: Addictive? (Score:2)
I can interrupt someone reading a book ⦠and they often get annoyed. It is harder to interrupt someone engrossed in a film, and their annoyance level in my experience is greater. I may not be able to interrupt someone whose full senses are engaged, and the level of addiction may make them enraged if I succeed.
Books are level 1 engagement with fantasy. This is ratcheting that dial higher. Might be good, but might be very bad.
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I can interrupt someone reading a book ⦠and they often get annoyed. It is harder to interrupt someone engrossed in a film, and their annoyance level in my experience is greater. I may not be able to interrupt someone whose full senses are engaged, and the level of addiction may make them enraged if I succeed.
Books are level 1 engagement with fantasy. This is ratcheting that dial higher. Might be good, but might be very bad.
But remember, VisionPro is all-about keeping the outside-world seamlessly-accessible. In fact, there are very few VisionPro examples I have seen so far that I would call full-on, shut-out-the-world VR.
Letting the Outside-In is, IMHO, actually one of the things it does best.
Re: Addictive? (Score:2)
That is a reasonable limit on my argument, but this tech still represents a ratcheting up of the division, and my point about why this is different from books stands.
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That is a reasonable limit on my argument, but this tech still represents a ratcheting up of the division, and my point about why this is different from books stands.
But I think it is a fundamental Design Difference between VisionOS and other VR Environments. But the psychological difference is likely profoundly-different, particularly in regards to user-fatigue and feelings of isolation.
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Itâ(TM)s not the new things that causes concern⦠itâ(TM)s the *source* of the new things: a completely unregulated marketplace with near-zero democratic oversight from the affected society.
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Do you still have a home phone, then?
I've seen this before (Score:2, Informative)
I can see a day when we all can't imagine living without an augmented reality. When we're enveloped more and more by technology, to the point that we crave these glasses like a drug
So could the writers of Star Trek: The Next Generation [wikipedia.org] , three decades ago...
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William Gibson before that.
All aboard the hype train (Score:5, Insightful)
The problem here is that the device is from Apple, all of a sudden we're going to get an endless deluge of op-eds from people who ignored other headsets and tried this one just because ... Apple.
Apple didn't do something revolutionary, they simply released a quality product at an eye watering price. Maybe it doesn't affect someone with Cameron's net worth but you can get that 4K beamed into your eyeballs for 1/3rd of the price elsewhere.
Watch movies on your ceiling, yeah I did that 5 years ago and thought it was revolutionary then. I did it again 3 years ago with a stand alone HMD and thought it was revolutionary again. But I went back to the TV, not because of quality issues but because WTF was I doing watching movies on my ceiling.
A glimpse of the future of how to use computers? From what I see it's a glimpse of how I used a computer in 2015 thanks to the fantastic Virtual Desktop program (that somehow shits on the performance of Oculus Link and Steam Link).
As for Dan Ives... If I make a prediction that technology gets cheaper over time can I too have his "senior analyst" pay check? What else does he predict? The sun will rise tomorrow?
But that's the modern discourse I guess. Nothing is ever invented until it is released with an Apple logo on the box.
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But I went back to the TV, not because of quality issues but because WTF was I doing watching movies on my ceiling.
If you're asking the question, clearly the drugs have worn off.
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The problem here is that the device is from Apple, all of a sudden we're going to get an endless deluge of op-eds from people who ignored other headsets and tried this one just because ... Apple.
No that isn't the problem.
For instance here is an interview with James Cameron, who created an entire 3d filming system back in 2008 for just such display systems.
The problem is the endless deluge of responses from people like you, who ignore anything said on the matter regardless of the experience of who is talking, because you see "apple" and the fog of hatred rolls over your brain and nothing sensible can come out of it.
All because... Apple
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Maybe. The resolution is dramatically higher than other VR products. True if meta had decided that was important they could have done a higher resolution product if they had given up the price point they wanted. I mean the "new" thing is mostly buying very high resolution displays from Sony. It is possible that Apple's gesture recognition is also new, although other VR systems have done that sort of thing, so I think it will only really count as "new" if it
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who created an entire 3d filming system back in 2008 for just such display systems.
No he didn't. His 3D filming systems did not remotely take into account the field of view for VR. He created these systems for digital 3D cinema and 3D television. They are very different.
because you see "apple" and the fog of hatred rolls over your brain
Nope, I don't hate companies. I hate specific products and people's responses too them. Like yours, a pointless comment that seems to have relegated my entire post to just being a "hater" without actually addressing a single point I made. The difference between you and me, I'm emotionally detached and made specific points,
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The problem here is that the device is from Apple, all of a sudden we're going to get an endless deluge of op-eds from people who ignored other headsets and tried this one just because ... Apple.
No that isn't the problem.
For instance here is an interview with James Cameron, who created an entire 3d filming system back in 2008 for just such display systems.
The problem is the endless deluge of responses from people like you, who ignore anything said on the matter regardless of the experience of who is talking, because you see "apple" and the fog of hatred rolls over your brain and nothing sensible can come out of it.
All because... Apple
I will break my self-imposed rule against ACs to say: You have hit the Hater on the Head!
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The problem is the endless deluge of responses from people like you, who ignore anything said on the matter regardless of the experience of who is talking
The problem is not picture quality which is pretty much all everyone who's used the device talks about (except those saying it still weighs too much). Did you even read the article? The problem is what you do with the thing after you're bored with the eye candy that comes with the new toy "Favreau created content for Apple specifically to showcase the device's 3D capabilities, where a dinosaur climbs out of a screen and looks like it wants to eat you".
Don't think that's a problem? Meta has sold over 20 million headsets and they still can't keep users engaged. https://www.roadtovr.com/quest... [roadtovr.com]
"Right now, we're on our third year of Quest 2," Rabkin said, according to The Verge. "And sadly, the newer cohorts that are coming in--the people who bought it this last Christmas--they're just not as into it [or engaged as] the ones who bought it early."
Early adopters often gush over a product. Lets see how people feel about their $3,500 headset a year from now. I'm not saying Apple's new toy will flop. They certainly have a fan base that will buy anything and much of the fan base that'll pay the Apple tax falls into the creative/developer category.
Read Ben Lang's RoadToVR Review-ette about the Vision Pro, and what sets it apart from the others:
https://www.roadtovr.com/apple... [roadtovr.com]
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The problem here is that the device is from Apple, all of a sudden we're going to get an endless deluge of op-eds from people who ignored other headsets and tried this one just because ... Apple.
Apple didn't do something revolutionary, they simply released a quality product...
I take it you haven't actually purchased anything besides food from a toxic food supply in a while.
Making a quality product, is a premium option now. That's not so simple anymore. Obviously.
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This sounds like the same thing people said when the iPod came out, and the iPhone, etc.
No it's not remotely the same. The iPod represented a truly revolutionary interface for listening to music. The iPhone represented a truly revolutionary device to the point where here on Slashdot we were literally wondering how on earth a touchscreen would work on a a phone and swearing we won't ever buy one without buttons.
The Vision Pro represents none of those. The only thing it does uniquely is project your eyes on the outside of the display in a truly creepy fashion. It's biggest selling point is that
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Really? Of all the places to bring that up you choose the very forum that spawned the quote
, by the cofounder of the site in fact.
The iPhone had quite a few doubters convinced a keyboard less smartphone was going to be a fail.
The vision pro's big selling point is very high resolution. Maybe that'll turn out to be a very big idea. Maybe it will be the
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Did you even read what Cameron wrote? It's right on the top of the submission. Talk about being delusional just because of ... Apple. In case you haven't noticed, I meant you. And others like you of course, don't feel singled out.
Did you even read it? It's an interview. Cameron did not write anything.
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Did you even read what Cameron wrote?
Yes. But if you think what Cameron wrote is relevant then it's clear you didn't read what I wrote. The point is not about Cameron's opinion. The point is that now we have an Apple device we are going to get every idiot commenting on it ignorant of everything else in this space.
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Did you even read what Cameron wrote?
Yes. But if you think what Cameron wrote is relevant then it's clear you didn't read what I wrote. The point is not about Cameron's opinion. The point is that now we have an Apple device we are going to get every idiot commenting on it ignorant of everything else in this space.
Ahem. But like Cameron, This guy certainly doesn't fall into the "ignorant" category:
https://www.roadtovr.com/apple... [roadtovr.com]
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The problem here is that the device is from Apple, all of a sudden we're going to get an endless deluge of op-eds from people who ignored other headsets and tried this one just because ... Apple.
You said that. I pointed out what he said. And you still call him count him as "every idiot". Because, errm, maybe you are the idiot?
Damnit (Score:3)
James Cameron: "But I'm literally dead!"
Opinions from guys who one free (Score:4, Insightful)
Or were given one free and then also paid for a few friendly blurbs on top of that.
When I get my free device they can quote me saying pie in the sky crap, too.
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You do or you wouldn't follow me around commenting on half my posts and mod bombing the rest, would you, cutie pie?
Show me on this doll where the mean internet person touched you.
So is the killer app ... (Score:2)
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I'm not putting *ANYTHING* on my face that's been used by someone else, especially on a plane.
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Lol, k.
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The killer app for AR is AR, a data overlay for reality. VR will never work so long as it can't fool your other senses.
If you give me a pair of normal looking glasses that throw my configured sensor readings in front of me, can give me virtual computer screens for a linked device, and maybe have that linked device run a smart vision system to identify people and items in my environment... that's a pair of glasses I will fork out for and link to my phone.
What will you use it for? Part of your phone interfa
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weird, inconsistent brag (Score:2)
The statements that he's been in VR "18 Years" and high resolution "solves every problem" are inconsistent. The solved problems from 18 years ago that are not resolution are tracking speed and fidelity. Some yet-to-be solved problems are real-world features like varifocal images, 180 degree FOV while maintaining full overlap and no distortion or pupil swim.
I preordered it, tried it, returned it. (Score:2)
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Corporation... (Score:2)
TIFTFY.
It'll be a doorstopper (Score:2)
Or a paperweight.
I have an HTC vive + Quest 3.
The quest 3 undoubtably have tossed VR forwards, and I can easily see a few good things with the Apple Vision Pro as well, such as the better tracking, and the high res screens.
But where it becomes a doorstop - is due to Apple's closed universe. No communication with the outside world, only Apple OS.
This restrictive environment, slapped on top of the silly 3500+$ entry-price tag makes it doomed from the start, no one in their right mind will buy one over time, a
Several decades VR experience.. (Score:2)
..and he says "That's the equivalent of the resolution of a 75-inch TV".
Thanks for that.
Fanboy (Score:2)
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Cameron's feedback (Score:2)