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Reddit in AI Content Licensing Deal With Google (reuters.com) 25

Social media platform Reddit has struck a deal with Google to make its content available for training the search engine giant's AI models. Reuters: The contract with Alphabet-owned Google is worth about $60 million per year, according to one of the sources. The deal underscores how Reddit, which is preparing for a high-profile stock market launch, is seeking to generate new revenue amid fierce competition for advertising dollars from the likes of TikTok and Meta Platform's Facebook.
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Reddit in AI Content Licensing Deal With Google

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  • by Himmy32 ( 650060 ) on Thursday February 22, 2024 @02:05PM (#64260596)
    AI generated text content is often identified today the long form formal content form scraping new articles and books. To an advertising company, AI social media responses driving engagement trained on informal comments that have a lot of metadata seems like it'd be pretty valuable. Just like any other free site, if you aren't paying you're the product. Either for your ad watching eyeballs or to sell your data. Slashdot content is straight out because Gemini would need to be renamed Hot Grits.
  • by Thaelon ( 250687 )

    Another bigoted AI in a sea of bigoted AIs. Nothing of value will be created.

    • Gemini is profoundly awful both in what it has delivered in my experience, and virtually every example I see online. It already reads like a Reddit troll and this will only be a continuation of that pattern. It might as well train on Quora and YouTube comments. Google is failing faster at AI than Kodak did to see the value in digital photography.
    • Musk tried to make a right wing chat bot trained on twitter and a bunch of right wingers were made it was "woke".

      That was because it was trained on all of Twitter, and Twitter as a whole is left wing, it just promotes right wing content because that gets more engagement (probably from troll farms and Russian bots, but engagement is engagement).
      • Or 80% of the content is centric because that is the definition of centric in political thought. Republicans and Democrats, 80% of them hold centric political opions for their party. IF you do not like being told Joe Biden has no business near the white house, perhaps it is time to understand Joe Biden mental state 2024 as viewed by you and not who is posting that his mental state is in the twilight.

        Just because you don't like it, the statement "Microsoft Windows is a centric OS in the marketpla
      • by Thaelon ( 250687 )

        Musk tried to make a right wing chat bot trained on twitter and a bunch of right wingers were made it was "woke".

        No he didn't. You're just so accustomed to left wing circlejerks you think anything that allows right wing opinions is rightwing itself. Go back to reddit and stay there. You'll feel safer from all the true things out there that hurt your feelings.

  • Really looking forward to ai-generated circle jerks, 1000-post chain of in-jokes, and angrily shitting over everything because the AI's mom asked it to stop day drinking in the basement.

  • Quite a large amount of Reddit content is automated or astroturfing accounts, so they're basically using bot-generated content to train their bot. Unless of course they use the naughty right wing subreddits, but they won't do that since they don't want their bot regurgitating viewpoints and perspectives that don't align with their particular worldview. I guess in that sense Reddit is a perfect training tool, although they could just ask the DNC nonprofits for their scripts instead since they run a huge am

    • The most cogent thought on reddit is in the naughty subreddits corners. If you blow the birthdate of a porn start the correction is fast, if you blow the founding date of the republican party on r/DNC your are supported because the poster was obviously a hypersexual illegal alien that must be protected in their bubble.

      Everything suffers from the Wikipedia problem, anyone who is clearheaded or an actual expert avoids reddit and wiki like the Colliflower without cheese.
  • If the social media conglomerates can get AIs posting to social media, and eventually have AIs responding to those posts, they can set up their own profit centers, without need of those pesky, complaining, idiotic users that cause all the problems for them! Then we can use massive amounts of energy to create and consume and create and consume and create and consume massive amounts of bullshit, even more than we create today, without any need for humans! FANTASTIC!

    SCI-FI DYSTOPIA AHEAD:

    Some day some alien

  • by rapjr ( 732628 ) on Thursday February 22, 2024 @03:27PM (#64260858)
    and now you've been sold.
    • The content appearing in Reddit was written by millions of individual people.

      Were they all asked about this and did they consent to this sale of their writing?

      Should have read the EULA?

      Yeah, well an enlightened court would throw out all EULAs as being well known to be almost never read or understood by anyone who clicks to accept them.

      All "fine print" should be similarly disallowed by the court, as being unreadable by and unread by almost all people it is presented to. If something is important, it must be
    • Excellent! I'm looking forward to the poisoning games.If reddit trolls are as creative as slashdot trolls, this could be glorious.

      One general problem with targeted poisoning is that AI companies can be secretive about the exact sources of data that they slurp up, and scattering LLM poison pills in every likely place probably doesn't scale with current technology. In this case however Google is making it very clear that it intends to train on Reddit forum posts, so thank you Google for being a good sport!

  • Reddit's biases (Score:2, Interesting)

    by Anonymous Coward

    It's more complicated than this, but reddit's hive mind seems to create a picture of the USA as less progressive than it actually is. When it comes to race, it portrays the 80s as the 50s, and when it comes to smoking it tries to make the 90s look like the 60s. If you didn't know better you'd think the kids in JNCO jeans were having 3-martini lunches after the daily lynching. OK, that's just bit of an exaggeration; but it definitely has a distortion field of social regression when addressing topics of r

  • Opting out? (Score:5, Interesting)

    by hawk ( 1151 ) <hawk@eyry.org> on Thursday February 22, 2024 @06:38PM (#64261328) Journal

    What I have yet to see is a single reference to the ability to opt out of use of one's comments this way.

    I got a notice from reddit a couple of days ago that there was a change in the terms of use.

    To *see* these, from the link, one has to log in--with a notice that logging in agrees to their terms of use!

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