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GNOME Foundation To Focus On Fundraising After Years Running A Deficit (phoronix.com) 38

The GNOME Foundation, a non-profit organization supporting the GNOME desktop environment, has been operating at a deficit for several years, depleting its financial reserves. Robert McQueen, the foundation's president, has announced plans to increase fundraising efforts in a new blog post.

McQueen adds: As you may be aware, the GNOME Foundation has operated at a deficit (nonprofit speak for a loss -- ie spending more than we've been raising each year) for over three years, essentially running the Foundation on reserves from some substantial donations received 4-5 years ago. The Foundation has a reserves policy which specifies a minimum amount of money we have to keep in our accounts. This is so that if there is a significant interruption to our usual income, we can preserve our core operations while we work on new funding sources. We've now "hit the buffers" of this reserves policy, meaning the Board can't approve any more deficit budgets -- to keep spending at the same level we must increase our income.

GNOME Foundation To Focus On Fundraising After Years Running A Deficit

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  • Haven't used GNOME for a long time. MATE is better.

    Maybe GNOME should die

    • by HBI ( 10338492 )

      Ironically MATE is a fork of GNOME (2). It's very usable, I use it as well. Even though my distro has second-rate support for it, it's still way better than GNOME 3 and its aggravating built-in inability to run shell scripts from the GUI.

      The fact people are still using over 10 year old software over their current product probably should be a leading indicator.

    • by jmccue ( 834797 )
      This and I wish GNOME would take freedesktop.org and Wayland with it. I like nice simple window managers like fvwm, fluxbox, cwm, but Wayland is killing them all off. Not a real issue for me yet since *BSD is a nice escape route for people like me.
    • Haven't used GNOME for a long time. MATE is better.

      Maybe GNOME should die

      I like the look and feel of Mate as well. I moved to Mint Mate after Ubuntu went ugly.

  • Kill off Gnome 3 and I'll contribute.
  • operating at a deficit for several years

    I wonder how that could have happened. I also wonder if their fundraising capabilities are as great as their design skills and their self reflection.

    • I remember hitting the Gnome 3 / Unity thing. I tried it for a while, then found out about Linux Mint, MATE, and Cinnamon. I've looked around since, and always came back to Mint and its variants.

      Some of the Ubuntu derivatives have gotten better. It seems like the Ubuntu variants have UI tweaks to make them resemble Unity. Linux Mint UI's always seems so much better.

      When suffering on Windows, I find myself thinking that Linux Mint is what Windows should be ...

      • by sconeu ( 64226 )

        OT: I'm a KDE kind of guy. I'm looking to switch from Kubuntu to Mint. Would you recommend MATE or Cinnamon?

        • I used KDE for years and years. Then switched to Mint about 2 years ago and decided to try Cinnamon. I thought for sure I would give up in a few days and load Plasma/KDE under Mint.

          I was pleasantly surprised. KDE/Plasma is much more refined and has more options and controls, but most of it I don't care about... and it has gotten so big and complicated. Cinnamon just works and isn't annoying and has gotten better with each update. I ended up using it every day since. I do recommend it. And yes, you ca

        • My preference is Cinnamon. If you have the horsepower, go for the better interface. Pretty much everything nowadays has the horsepower.

          Both are good.

      • by HiThere ( 15173 )

        KDE3 was better an Mate. But that, like gnome2, got updated out of existence. KDE4 had promise at first, but they kept fiddling with it until it didn't. So I, also, use Mate thes edays.

        • KDE3 is the one I like to describe as an explosion in a widget factory.

          4 had promise but didn't develop it until it became 5.

          5 has a bad bug with wine programs, some of them will only run in the background. Haven't tried to see if 6 has the same problem...

          • KDE since 4 always seemed resource heavy on 'old' hardware.

            e.g. Okular, it's the kitchen sink of file viewers but if I gave it a 30 page PDF from a film festival brochure it would choke whereas Atril from Mate would render it fine.

            I'll revisit KDE 6 some day with a Vulkan-savvy graphics card but in the meantime XFCE still flies on anything from my Core 2 Duo laptop to a Core i5.

            • I am running XFCE and Compiz on a system with a 4060. It's lovely. The animations could be a little smoother, but I am absolutely loving the high quality mipmaps that are missing from KDE. You can really see what is going on in the icon hover previews. My CPU is a 1600 AF (Pinnacle Ridge) which is pretty poky by modern standards, but it was replacing a FX-8350.

              Now I just need to finish building avant-window-navigator. The XFCE4 dock is pretty meh. The fucking clock stopped updating for over an hour this mor

  • Would be better if they focused on making desktop environment that force a touch paradigm that is useless for real work. Linux is still typically used on PC on real desktops for real work. Focusing on touch in that environment is fucking idiotic.

    • i.e. ... they were not focused on making a ...
      or maybe ... that didn't force ...
      I do agree with what I believe you intended to say.
      Along with many others I switched away from GNOME(in my case to xfce) as a result of this appallingly bad decision(to seemingly abandon the desktop in favour of tablets) by the GNOME developers. So the question is how many people are using GNOME on tablets?
      This is not unlike how Microsoft lost out completely on phones and made their desktop worse by trying to move everyone to a

      • by deKernel ( 65640 )

        The key word you used was tablet!! Every time I try using it, I feel like I am using a very large tablet with a keyboard and mouse attached. I guess I am just an old fool who is very comfortable with the conventional desktop paradigm.

  • by Oddroot ( 4245189 ) on Friday April 26, 2024 @03:49PM (#64428294)

    I'm forced to use GNOME under Wayland on our online workstations at work, but at home and in my work VMs I always use something much more lightweight, like Mate or even just a standalone window manager. Something like OpenBox, i3, even MWM or TWM can be made to look and work nicely, without carrying around all of the heft and uselessness of a full DE.

    Realistically most of the time I just need a terminal program, a browser and some basic graphical tools, which can be covered by GIMP, Inkscape and Blender well enough most of the time.

    All that said a lot of my professional time is spent in Windows because so much professional software is only available for it. I understand the market reasons why, but man, I pine for a real, commercial market for Unix desktops again.

  • I like GNOME (Score:5, Insightful)

    by hirschma ( 187820 ) on Friday April 26, 2024 @04:11PM (#64428354)

    Maybe it's like saying that vanilla is your favorite ice-cream flavor, but I really like GNOME. It works the way that I do, and I find it intuitive and elegant.

    Yes, I've tried most other WMs/DEs, but always come home to GNOME. Sorry, just had to dissent from the GNOME hate.

    • by deKernel ( 65640 )

      If GNOME works for you then by all means use it without any apologizes. Personally I have tried it several times through the years, and it just feels like I should be using a tablet...but that is just me.

    • by Pizza ( 87623 )

      Back in the day I preferred Afterstep; when that bitrotted to the point of no longer quite working I switched to Windowmaker, and when that too fell to bitrot and ongoing integration issues with the rest of the ecosystem, I held my nose and switched to G2, where at least everything _worked_ even if it didn't map cleanly to my mental model.

      When G3 landed, even in its not-quite-fully-baked 3.0 release (what, 12 years ago?) it was a breath of fresh air, mapping nearly perfectly to how I work. I haven't looked

    • Gnome-2 has the perfection of 'Angelos David, or  W. Homers LOST ON THE GRAND BANKS.  Perfection within its own sphere.   Nothing needs to be changed for the casual home user. I never left GNOME-2 and now use MATE 1.26 = same thing.
  • And I'll contribute.
    Start with GtkHeaderBar: Close button's mouse-over area doesn't extend to top-right pixel when maximized (fitts' law) [gnome.org]
    This and the fact that Gtk CSD windows don't respect the DE window decorations impact all DEs.

  • Honestly MATE has been really good for years and the Yaru Dark theme I tried on 24.04 today looks fantastic. Sending them some money.
  • You failed to adapt, face the consequences.

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