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Reddit Grows, Seeks More AI Deals, Plans 'Award' Shops, and Gets Sued (yahoo.com) 45

Reddit reported its first results since going public in late March. Yahoo Finance reports: Daily active users increased 37% year over year to 82.7 million. Weekly active unique users rose 40% from the prior year. Total revenue improved 48% to $243 million, nearly doubling the growth rate from the prior quarter, due to strength in advertising. The company delivered adjusted operating profits of $10 million, versus a $50.2 million loss a year ago. [Reddit CEO Steve] Huffman declined to say when the company would be profitable on a net income basis, noting it's a focus for the management team. Other areas of focus include rolling out a new user interface this year, introducing shopping capabilities, and searching for another artificial intelligence content licensing deal like the one with Google.
Bloomberg notes that already Reddit "has signed licensing agreements worth $203 million in total, with terms ranging from two to three years. The company generated about $20 million from AI content deals last quarter, and expects to bring in more than $60 million by the end of the year."

And elsewhere Bloomberg writes that Reddit "plans to expand its revenue streams outside of advertising into what Huffman calls the 'user economy' — users making money from others on the platform... " In the coming months Reddit plans to launch new versions of awards, which are digital gifts users can give to each other, along with other products... Reddit also plans to continue striking data licensing deals with artificial intelligence companies, expanding into international markets and evaluating potential acquisition targets in areas such as search, he said.
Meanwhile, ZDNet notes that this week a Reddit announcement "introduced a new public content policy that lays out a framework for how partners and third parties can access user-posted content on its site." The post explains that more and more companies are using unsavory means to access user data in bulk, including Reddit posts. Once a company gets this data, there's no limit to what it can do with it. Reddit will continue to block "bad actors" that use unauthorized methods to get data, the company says, but it's taking additional steps to keep users safe from the site's partners.... Reddit still supports using its data for research: It's creating a new subreddit — r/reddit4researchers — to support these initiatives, and partnering with OpenMined to help improve research. Private data is, however, going to stay private.

If a company wants to use Reddit data for commercial purposes, including advertising or training AI, it will have to pay. Reddit made this clear by saying, "If you're interested in using Reddit data to power, augment, or enhance your product or service for any commercial purposes, we require a contract." To be clear, Reddit is still selling users' data — it's just making sure that unscrupulous actors have a tougher time accessing that data for free and researchers have an easier time finding what they need.

And finally, there's some court action, according to the Register. Reddit "was sued by an unhappy advertiser who claims that internet giga-forum sold ads but provided no way to verify that real people were responsible for clicking on them." The complaint [PDF] was filed this week in a U.S. federal court in northern California on behalf of LevelFields, a Virginia-based investment research platform that relies on AI. It says the biz booked pay-per-click ads on the discussion site starting September 2022... That arrangement called for Reddit to use reasonable means to ensure that LevelField's ads were delivered to and clicked on by actual people rather than bots and the like. But according to the complaint, Reddit broke that contract...

LevelFields argues that Reddit is in a particularly good position to track click fraud because it's serving ads on its own site, as opposed to third-party properties where it may have less visibility into network traffic... Nonetheless, LevelFields's effort to obtain IP address data to verify the ads it was billed for went unfulfilled. The social media site "provided click logs without IP addresses," the complaint says. "Reddit represented that it was not able to provide IP addresses."

"The plaintiffs aspire to have their claim certified as a class action," the article adds — along with an interesting statistic.

"According to Juniper Research, 22 percent of ad spending last year was lost to click fraud, amounting to $84 billion."
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  • by Anonymous Coward

    "According to Juniper Research ( https://fraudblocker.com/ad-fr... [fraudblocker.com] ) 22 percent of ad spending last year was lost to click fraud, amounting to $84 billion."

  • by luvirini ( 753157 ) on Sunday May 12, 2024 @04:45PM (#64467431)

    .. How you have fallen..

    I mean, there are still some great communities and helpfull information there but the tide is shifting.

    It used to be that for any obscure topic, like how to program a specific microcontroller, there would likely be a subreddit about such, and while to post volume on it might be low, it was usually followd by people who actually knew something.

    The big subreddits were usually always bad though..

    But now the people are instead on some discord server that is not searchable and the actual useful articles are published on many separate sites.

    Specially the rise of discord has been bad for both Reddit and for actual access to information.

    • by hazem ( 472289 )

      I agree. As Google search has gotten worse, for quite a while I would add "Reddit" to my Google searches and would find what I really wanted there. But now even those results are becoming less useful and relevant.

    • I'm sure that introducing a system to allow "users making money from others on the platform" will ensure excellent content quality in the future.

  • by NoWayNoShapeNoForm ( 7060585 ) on Sunday May 12, 2024 @05:13PM (#64467459)

    Now that Reddit has joined the business world we can expect all sorts of crazy news stories about them.

    * Big Golden Parachute Payments for certain C-level executives *

    * Interesting and possibly dubious financial statements that call into question their accounting proctices *

    * Various auditors wanting to closely examine Reddit's userbase & ad revenue growth claims *

    Yup, all the sorrid and tawdry stories that make big business what it is today.

  • I have a lot of trouble believing that claimed increase in active uses is real. The quality has dropped. They had that API drama. They went iron fisted on their olunteer mods.

    I doubt random people found articles about those things in the last year and thought. "Hey, I want to sign up for that!".

    • I created an account just this year. Now that Google is basically Reddit, I wanted to have some influence on the world. lol

      • by HBI ( 10338492 )

        There's a firefox mod that lets you filter google search results based on your desires. I see no reddit hits. The quality has gone up.

        • by Luckyo ( 1726890 )

          You just add "-site:reddit.com" to your searches when you want to exclude reddit. No addon necessary.

          Most people seem to forget that you can use boolean operators. Minus followed by terms will exclude said terms. Command "site:" will search only that site. And combining both will search everywhere but that site.

          • by Anonymous Coward
            Unless Google just wants to show you that stuff anyway, or thinks you didn't really mean it and wanted something else instead.
    • Actually quite believable - if they are comparing recent usage with the period during the protests.

    • I have a lot of trouble believing that claimed increase in active uses is real. The quality has dropped.

      A rapid increase in users generally results in a drop in quality.

  • it's pointless having a conversation on reddit unless you stick to the program as the unaccountable and abusive mods will censor any and all comments they disagree with and work to ban users they label as 'unpleasant', for instance, just try posts anything controversial to r/crontroversy or anything unpopular to r/unpopular and see what happens to your post. Don't complain or they will use that as an excuse to label you a malcontent and a troublemaker

    reddit is a corporate tools used to control we the people

    • > it's pointless having a conversation on reddit unless you stick to the program .. just try posts anything controversial to r/crontroversy or anything unpopular to r/unpopular

      And no real discussion of the news allowed on r/news
      And no real discussion of politics allowed on r/politics
      And no real discussion of Ukraine allowed on r/Ukraine.
      • by 2TecTom ( 311314 )

        And no real discussion of the news allowed on r/news
        And no real discussion of politics allowed on r/politics
        And no real discussion of Ukraine allowed on r/Ukraine.

        etc. etc. basically all of the top subreddits, indeed, it's only a matter of time before people realize all their opinions are being 'managed'

        of course the rich and powerful cannot allow the poor and powerless to actually communicate, we might organize ...

  • Clicks is wrong way to sell ads. They should be on the same footing as other forms of advertising. Sell the context space.

    Get rid of tracking.

    • I'm also curious about "22% of ad revenue is lost to click fraud." Lost to whom? Does this mean that the ad purchaser is paying Google or whomever for not real clicks? Isn't this a risk for Google and their ilk if ad purchasers decide to cut their spending by 22%?

      • When you buy ads, not every ad buy is going to work out. 22% isn't terrible if that is *all* it is. When I was doing Facebook ads it was 75% people clicking the 'contact us' button by mistake rather than interest. And we still paid because the quality of the other 25% was so good. Other forms of advertising are the same. We did Homeadvisor for a while and more than half of the leads were complete garbage. But with Homeadvisor you have to pay for each one and it was $20-40 per lead for our business. We stop
      • Does this mean that the ad purchaser is paying Google or whomever for not real clicks?

        Yes.

        Isn't this a risk for Google and their ilk if ad purchasers decide to cut their spending by 22%?

        The ad space is sold by auction. If you decline to buy, the next highest bidder buys the space.

        The click fraud rate is already built into the price.

        If the fraud rate was zero, advertisers would bid more than they do now.

        Advertisers are buying clicks but are really paying for results. As long as the click-throughs are profitable, they will continue to bid.

    • by msauve ( 701917 )
      >Get rid of tracking.

      I'm curious about "Reddit represented that it was not able to provide IP addresses."

      I would hope that's because Reddit wants to protect the privacy of its users. And, if they're selling "pay-per-click", those clicks send you to the advertiser's site! Reddit only needs to log clicks for billing, the advertiser should be doing logging on their end. It looks like Reddit passes them info via a query string when an advertising link is clicked. I'm guessing that Reddit signals whether
  • April Fool's (Score:4, Insightful)

    by systemd-anonymousd ( 6652324 ) on Sunday May 12, 2024 @07:54PM (#64467645)

    Remember, censorship on Reddit was considered such an impossible future that one of their April Fool's jokes was to say they were giving mods the ability to delete comments.

    Many years later Reddit censored that very blog post so people wouldn't be able to see how things have changed.

    https://web.archive.org/web/20... [archive.org]

  • My anti-predictions:
    - Slow sanitation - Expect Reddit to slowly sanitize its content, mod ban users, use AI sentiment analysis to autoflag and autoblock comments.
    - Reddit-kids - Self explanatory
    - Mass purges of users
    - Mass deleting of comments and posts flagged as anything other that 'videos of cats and puppies'
    - The Reddit user base becoming more and more of a certain age or older and that age increasing every year. Facebook has this already for a decade.

    Is this the domino theory of internet portals that

  • Social media were great! Then they weren't. AI is great!
  • Enquiring minds want to know....

  • They will ban you for saying anything that can remotely be taken as anti-trans.

    One time, I got a week suspension for saying that we shouldn't be allowing people to surgically alter 5 year olds because they think they're one gender or another.

    LK

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