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WP Engine Asks Court To Stop Matt Mullenweg From Blocking Access To WordPress Resources 13

WP Engine has filed a motion for a preliminary injunction against Automattic and its CEO Matt Mullenweg, seeking to halt their public campaign and regain access to WordPress resources. The hosting platform claims it's suffering "immediate irreparable harm," including a 14% spike in cancellation requests following Mullenweg's criticism.

WP Engine alleges the dispute has created anxiety among developers and increased security risks for the WordPress community. The legal action comes after Automattic accused WP Engine of trademark infringement, leading to exchanged cease-and-desist orders and a lawsuit. Last week, the WordPress.org project, led by Mullenweg, took control of WP Engine's Advanced Custom Fields plugin, redirecting users to a forked version.

WP Engine Asks Court To Stop Matt Mullenweg From Blocking Access To WordPress Resources

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  • Mullenweg's handling of the governance has been an absolute shit show AFAICT for the FOSS side, and it seems like a lot of FOSS decisions were set up to subtly financially advantage one vendor.

    Generally speaking, mature FOSS projects with the ASF, CNCF, GNU, etc. have governance models that actively avoid this "BDFL wearing two hats for great profit" scenario, among other obvious conflicts of interest.

    Sorry, guys. Y'all chose the GPL v2 and WP Engine is compliant.

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      Mullenweg's handling of the governance has been an absolute shit show AFAICT for the FOSS side, and it seems like a lot of FOSS decisions were set up to subtly financially advantage one vendor.

      Generally speaking, mature FOSS projects with the ASF, CNCF, GNU, etc. have governance models that actively avoid this "BDFL wearing two hats for great profit" scenario, among other obvious conflicts of interest.

      Sorry, guys. Y'all chose the GPL v2 and WP Engine is compliant.

      Wow, it’s like an acronym convention exploded! You've got the FOSS brigade, the ASF squad, the CNCF crew, and don’t forget GNU’s marching band. It’s a wonder anyone can understand what they’re saying between the BDFLs and the AFAICTs! Honestly, with that many acronyms, I half expected a secret handshake to come next. Did they all just win a game of buzzword bingo?

  • by garett_spencley ( 193892 ) on Friday October 18, 2024 @11:53AM (#64874677) Journal

    I haven't been following this story in any kind of deep way, so I'm just familiar at a very high level. From what I remember, the WP creator is restricting access to their servers, for whatever reasons, and this is impacting WP Engine directly. WP says that if WP Engine wants to continue to consume WP's server resources at the rate they current are, that they will need to compensate WP for this.

    Others have said that the way that WP's creator is handling this is bad, and that might be true but unless they've done something illegal or that weakens their defence in court, that's irrelevant. It's not a crime to be a douche wad.

    So, the way I'm looking at it is why would WP Engine be entitled to unlimited access to WP's resources? The corollary of that is why should WP be compelled, under penalty of law, to offer these services at their own expense without compensation?

    I might be missing something but from what I understand, that's the essence. If it is a contract dispute and the courts find that WP entered into a binding agreement, that's one thing. But if that's not the case and the courts actually side with WP Engine, if I were the WP creator I'd just shut everything down and walk away. And no that's not wishful thinking (wanting WordPress to disappear), it's a moral principle. I'm not your tool and you're not entitled to something I produce or offer for free. And if you've been using it for free because I'm kind, and now I change my mind and that affects your negatively, tough shit. My kindness in the past doesn't make me your tool in the present.

    • yeah, hard agree. it seems like WP Engine is trying to fallaciously bootstrap the legit FOSS requirement to "make source available for users" into a bogus requirement to "host resources for my customers at whatever capacity i need to run my business, for free."

      and slashdotters are agreeing, perhaps because their dedication to entitlement and piracy is stronger than their dedication to software development.

      • maybe a solution would be for Matt Mullenweg to redirect WP Engine users to a site where they can sign up to receive a copy of the plugin they want on a USB drive sent by media mail, in exchange for a modest fee to cover distribution costs and fund future development. aiui this is an rms-approved way to fulfill the obligations of the GPLv2.

      • yeah, hard agree. it seems like WP Engine is trying to fallaciously bootstrap the legit FOSS requirement to "make source available for users" into a bogus requirement to "host resources for my customers at whatever capacity i need to run my business, for free."

        and slashdotters are agreeing, perhaps because their dedication to entitlement and piracy is stronger than their dedication to software development.

        I think the vast majority of slashdotters (and other FOSS adherents) clearly understand the distinction between "free as in speech" and "free as in beer".

        So no, I would not say that slashdotters are agreeing with WP Engine because of your perception of "dedication to entitlement". Not sure how "piracy" even enters into it.

        • yes free speech/free beer is indeed a simple framework.

          it gets fuzzier when the issue is "entitlement to the costs for storing and distributing 'speech' at scale in realtime for a competitor's customers on behalf of one's competitor."

          FOSS does not cover that and is at least implicitly opposed to it (indeed most licenses explicitly disclaim even the guarantee of merchantability!), and yet slashdotters are confused. Why is that?

    • by Fly Swatter ( 30498 ) on Friday October 18, 2024 @12:14PM (#64874717) Homepage
      That quote in the summary 'regain access to WordPress resources.' tells the whole story, WP Engine is depending on WP's distribution servers to operate and refuses to reimburse them for the heavy demand WP Engine creates on the 'free servers'.

      If you offer a service to the public for free and some big for profit company comes and overloads the service, wouldn't you also get a little annoyed? And if they simply refuse to help cover the costs of expanding said service to accommodate their high load, you too would start going a little crazy or at least start blocking the corporate pig trying to profit from your free service at your expense.

      The media is trying to make it an EGO fest when it is simply a case one side abusing the resources provided by the other - for corporate profit.
      • by PPH ( 736903 )

        WP Engine is depending on WP's distribution servers

        This, exactly.

        WP Engine needs to host their own production shit.

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