

Nikola Files for Bankruptcy With Plans To Sell Assets, Wind Down (msn.com) 58
Nikola, the hydrogen-truck maker that briefly sported a market value comparable to Ford Motor, has filed for bankruptcy with plans to wind down its business. From a report: Nikola on Wednesday said that it made the chapter 11 filing with the U.S. Bankruptcy Court in Delaware and that it plans to conduct a court-supervised auction of its assets.
The Phoenix company said it worked for months with its financial and legal advisers to find a way to sustain its operations before determining that a structured sale process was the best way to maximize the value of its assets.
The Phoenix company said it worked for months with its financial and legal advisers to find a way to sustain its operations before determining that a structured sale process was the best way to maximize the value of its assets.
Surprised it took this long (Score:3)
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Hydrogen combustion might be interesting, but manufacturing hydrogen isn't efficient and storage of it is tricky.
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Yeah, efficiency is a problem. But is it though when compared to battery technology? Round-cycling is still better for batteries but when mature the storing of energy as hydrogen gas esp on big scale (like power plants) should be better than batteries.
Another advantage of hydrogen over rechargeable batteries is speed of transferring the energy, esp important for transpiration.
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That doesn't seem to be real.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
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Hmm first I hear about it. Electrolysis produces separate gases at each electrode, it's nature of the process. Now it may be helpful to mix them into a combustible gas, but this is accident to happen. Hydrogen alone would not burn as burning require oxygen. However since the hydrogen molecules are so small it's hard to create a non-leaking containers.
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Yes. Batteries are expensive, but have vast areas where they work out economically. Witness say cars where a battery EV can be sold for under the average selling price of a gas car (although over the median) and make substantial profit.
Hydrogen so far has only proven to be useful in space applications where the constraints are far more extreme and saving “just a little” weight is worth orders of magnitude in
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Weight, ie energy density is an advantage in space tech.
I suppose another application would be power-plant level accumulation? This is where scaling is beneficial.
Creating commercial system for transportation is a huge effort. The electric cars piggy back it's chagrining on existing power grid while with hydrogen everything is anew.
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No one was combusting hydrogen in a truck or car. The focus was entirely on hydrogen fuel cell electric vehicles including the Nikola truck.
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Hydrogen combustion might be interesting
And it is very safe, just ask the Zeppelin Hindenburg.
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Yes, although in the pre-EV era it is common for “concept cars” to not actually have an engine, or the ability to move (except by being pushed or towed). With EVs it is far easier to shoehorn some other model’s motor and battery (or part of the battery) in “somewhere” and make functional prototypes. Which much
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Because it appears my message was less clear then I had intended, I’ll clarify.
I don’t think anyone misunderstood Nikola, they staged a rigged demo, and didn’t wink and nod at anyone, to even imply it was rigged. They attempted to lie. They got caught.
They were engaging in fraud, and it caught up to them.
They found the line others edge up to, jumped over it with both feet, and might have actually been sur
Re:I guess no more cell service on the moon then? (Score:4, Insightful)
Look again, Nikola - is not Nokia
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dyslexia is hurd.
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Hurd [wikipedia.org] gets the short-shaft again!
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They're already on the roads hauling freight in the US, too. Volvo VNR, Freightliner eCascadia, Kenworth T680E, and Peterbilt 579EV are all available right now.
=Smidge=
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I think he even drives a Nikola/Iveco EV truck.
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https://www.volvotrucks.com/en... [volvotrucks.com]
https://www.kenworth.com/truck... [kenworth.com]
https://www.peterbilt.com/news... [peterbilt.com]
https://www.daimlertruck.com/e... [daimlertruck.com]
https://www.hyundaimotorgroup.... [hyundaimotorgroup.com]
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Why did people work when there was no money?
Re: Meanwhile, no trucks for you! (Score:1)
Subsistence.
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Does subsistence allow for the surpluses necessary to build something like GÃbekli Tepe?
Re: Meanwhile, no trucks for you! (Score:1)
If those surpluses are enumerated functionally like money.
The job of "tax collector" is an ancient one.
Re: Why did people work when there was no money (Score:2)
Hey, this is SlashDot you trickster!
How dare you try to make us think for ourselves and reach an obvious yet interesting conclusion.
You must be silenced! Silence I say!
And Tortured: Bring out the comfy chair!
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What if you voted for money-printing that came directly to individuals to svoid the Cantillon effect, and indexation to inflation so your real purchasing power was stable?
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Stupid enough to point out when the treehuggers faceplant and we all have to feel the pain in higher transportation costs?
You feel the pain in higher transportation costs because oil prices fluctuate when shit like wars on the other side of the planet occur.
Re: Meanwhile, no trucks for you! (Score:1)
Yeah. It's Putin/Iran/Israel/North Korea's fault that Massachusetts literally made it impossible to maintain a working truck fleet as of last month.
You may be hoping I'm that stupid, but I hope to God that you're actually not, so you can be reasoned with.
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Yeah. It's Putin/Iran/Israel/North Korea's fault that Massachusetts literally made it impossible to maintain a working truck fleet as of last month.
Take a minute to think about the cause and effect, here. Why the need, mm?
Re: Meanwhile, no trucks for you! (Score:1)
What cause and effect is at play here, pray tell.
What kind of legal-only-in-Colorado shrooms do you need to be on to believe that banning diesel truck sales is anything other than a purely elective exercise in green virtue-signalling?
Re: Meanwhile, no trucks for you! (Score:2)
They bitch when gas prices go up during a democrat administration. They bitch about EVs even though the "fuel" for those can not only be made in their own country, but also in their own back yard.
Somehow I'm the one that can't be reasoned with.
Re: Meanwhile, no trucks for you! (Score:1)
The fuel for EVs in Massachusetts comes almost entirely from gas fired powerplants (since EVs are mostly charged at night). The natural gas for these power plants has to be brought in by tanker because all of Connecticut, New York State, and Massachusetts have stonewalled any new gas pipelines from the parts of the country where gas is actually produced. On particularly cold winter nights, this constrained gas supply leads to repeated warnings from ISO New England of potential rolling blackouts.
And the powe
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Heh. "They won't pipe it to me!"
Re: Meanwhile, no trucks for you! (Score:1)
Huh?
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Is this is a surprise? (Score:4, Informative)
They attempted to defraud investors by rolling a non functional truck down a slope to make pretend it was under propulsion. It wasn't. When that was revealed their share price tanked and their CEO got charged with fraud. Ever since their efforts have reduced to trying to make battery electric trucks which have failed miserably.
In a way it reminds me of Magic Leap - the same use of bullshit and lies to promote something they couldn't possibly deliver and eventually they squeeze out some turd product before going bust.
Re:Is this is a surprise? (Score:5, Funny)
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Who says it can only be a gravity vehicle? If they leave the floor open, they could walk the car, while saying 'yabba dabba do'.
Not a huge surprise (Score:4, Informative)
H2 is always challenging for transport because of the small molecule challenges like embrittlement. BEV is surprisingly good for HGV because trailer ladder frames have a lot of space that a battery can fit in, and the ICE engine and nubbins is pretty bulky and heavy, so the net weight gain isn't too bad. So H2 tech was always a tough sell even before we get to the fact it doesn't do much for decarbonisation until we get industrial scale no-carbon production which is a long way off, and the cost and the infra challenges.
Re: Not a huge surprise (Score:2)
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No one was proposing transporting H2. That just isn't viable for large scale like trucks, it barely manages for smaller scale things such as forklifts. H2 refueling stations virtually universally manufacture on site with local electrolysers and compressors.
That said it is still highly explosive. Several companies built electrolisers in built up areas before doing a risk assessment, thinking OH FUCK, and then selling it to whomever will buy it as quickly as possible.
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By “transport”, I meant “for use in vehicles”, not the transportation of the H2.
Quite a strange story that proves... (Score:2)
...hucksters can sell the magic and hype
It started as a dream, moved to being a fraud, and never really had a chance, but investors are so hungry for "the next big thing" that they ignored all of the warnings
But did they really file? (Score:2)
I have to wonder if they really filed.
Or did they fake it?
Someone needs to download and see if it's real.