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Microsoft Developing Windows 11 Feature To Explain Hardware Performance Issues (bsky.app) 66

Posted by msmash from the up-next dept.
Microsoft is developing a new Windows 11 feature that will explain how hardware limitations affect PC performance. The latest preview builds include a hidden FAQ section in system settings that addresses GPU memory, system RAM, and OS version impacts.

The feature, discovered by Windows observer "phantomofearth" in this week's Dev Channel build, requires manual activation. It provides specific recommendations for configurations like low RAM or GPUs with less than 4GB memory, and flags outdated Windows versions.

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Microsoft Developing Windows 11 Feature To Explain Hardware Performance Issues

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  • And now it's titled too. :)

  • "It looks like you're running Windows 11" (Score:4, Funny)

    by greytree ( 7124971 ) on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:32AM (#65246771)
    "
    I can help you fix that !

    [Click here to remove Windows 11]
    "

  • But will it ignore the obvious (Score:4, Insightful)

    by jrnvk ( 4197967 ) on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:41AM (#65246793)

    Like how Defender, OneDrive, CoPilot and the search indexer consume the most resources when idle?

    • What?? A sales tool??

      No one will complain about the kernel. Or decades of bad code in dot-net? Of course not.

      Whenever Microsoft can point to the hardware as The Problem, it will. This is, as you cite, deflection. They can no longer mate and optimize for reference designs because there are so many variants, which would point to their basic architectural problems.

      Best to just point fingers elsewhere, a rubric now common in politics.

    • CompatTelRunner.exe is the bane of my existence. As soon as I hear my CPU fans spin up I know it's off again.

    • Please, let it work on useless system tasks too.

      I'm dying in despair, and computing in disrepair ...

      Please, someone give me an operating system with kill -9 !!!

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by CEC-P ( 10248912 )
      Even Linux won't run "fast" on a $300 HP "laptop" with 32GB of eMMC trash and 4GB of soldered garbage.

    • Complain all you want, but use the damn thing for what you NEED, and make sure that you're running an operating system that's GOOD at what you NEED. For instance, I use the Microsoft Windows 11 Pro operating system. The calculator function far outperforms my phone's calculator, being able to calculate more decimals, and taking notes on my phone is TERRIBLE! I use notepad++. For everything else I use my phone. And we can now talk about the reasoning behind why there is no microsoft phone...

      • And we can now talk about the reasoning behind why there is no microsoft phone...

        The reasoning is simple. Despite spending billions on the Windows Phone, there were few customers because there were few apps. There were few apps partially because there were few customers. Another partial reason for few apps is after Windows Mobile 5, every version required rewrites by developers. By the time of Windows Phone 8, developers largely abandoned the platform. What few apps existed barely received any updates despite MS paying developers. It simply was not worth effort on the part of developers

    • Of how about other components that MS insists must run on my desktop. For example, Xbox Game Bar (I don’t have an Xbox or Xbox account). Touch Screen UI (My monitor is not a touchscreen). Wireless/bluetooth monitors (it is a desktop without Bluetooth or wireless). Also on top of all of that, notifications to let me know when these things were not running. I have disabled all notifications because each one of them insisted it was the highest priority and urgency. For example, while playing Fallout 3 (o

    • Like how Defender, OneDrive, CoPilot and the search indexer consume the most resources when idle?

      But... that's the point... If your PC is idle you don't give a shit about performance, that is precisely when you want background tasks like malware scanning, indexing etc to run. Please, I want my computer to do as MUCH AS POSSIBLE when it's idle. Just like I want it to use as MUCH AS POSSIBLE of my RAM for tasks to speed it up.

      • Defender, OneDrive, CoPilot and the search indexer don't just consume resources when the computer is idle. I see them each hogging a processor (i.e. pegged 25% CPU on a four-core machine) while I'm trying to do my work.

    • Why is it a problem for these tools to consume resources when idle? That seems like a perfect time to perform these tasks.

  • My application runs fine with 2Gb of RAM in Windows XP.
    My application runs fine with 4Gb of RAM in Windows 7
    My application runs fine with 8Gb of RAM in windows 8
    My application runs fine with 16Gb of RAM in windows 10
    My application doesn't run fine with 16Gb of RAM in windows 11.

    Clearly your application needs 32Gb of RAM and it's your fault, not windows's, which doesn't run tens of processes in background doing things you didn't ask for, wasting resources.

    Hey!!! I wasn't even running an application, I just w

    • Meanwhile, one of my work laptops runs fine with Windows 11 and 8 GB RAM, with a few complex web apps.

      • All I run on my work laptop is office and the browser and it often runs like shit to the point that the mouse lags, while Windows insists that I'm barely using any CPU and there is practically no disk activity. Though to be fair, there is a bunch of management bullshit on it because Microsoft's management tools are bullshit and don't do the whole job...

        • Corporate management tools are either utter shit, or very out-of-the-way.
          But that's not a Windows problem, it's a software development problem.

          • It's a Windows problem because you shouldn't need them, and if you have them, they shouldn't be a problem.

            The same kinds of tools don't wreak the same kind of havoc on Unix systems, because they have a functional scheduler that doesn't fucking crater when you add some more load. That's why we could have over 100 people all doing stuff on a Sun 3/260 with a 68020@25 MHz, and all of their jobs would actually run.

        • If you've got mouse lagging then you've got some other crap running at a high enough priority to pre-empt it. Probably some shitty anti-malware, or something like your employer has enough lack of faith in you that they're taking frequent screen caps.

        • Re: (Score:3)

          by Targon ( 17348 )

          When you realize that Intel Big.little is the source of many of these problems, you start to realize that when the company buys garbage laptops with 2 performance cores and 6 efficiency cores, it's just a crap machine. Intel sold a lot of dual-core i7 chips over the years to suckers who didn't understand that a quad-core i5 is better than a dual-core i7. Now, we have Big.little, where many Intel chips only have two performance cores with some garbage sprinkled on top to make stupid people believe that

          • This is older, it's a 1185-G7. It just has four regular cores AFAIK? And 8T. It's not modern, but I'm not exactly beating it up either.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by Targon ( 17348 )

              That's better than these 12th, 13th, and 14th gen laptops with only two performance cores. Quest Desktop Authority really really really does not work well on those due to how DA likes to run on the performance cores, and it causes other programs to lag horribly at intervals.

  • Can't wait for the sponsored content in that app. (Score:4, Insightful)

    by thesjaakspoiler ( 4782965 ) on Thursday March 20, 2025 @07:45AM (#65246799)

    Brought to you by HPDELL.
    Get 20% of on your next computer without all these performance issues.

  • And the outcry that it generated? Yet now Windows requires 32 times more than that or 128 times more for copilot plus and no one makes a big deal out of it. Moore's law was always used as an excuse to make bloatware. In my 25 years of being on the internet i've gone from 56K to 1 Gigabit yet some websites are slower than dial up.

    • Re:Remember when Windows XP required 128MB RAM? (Score:5, Interesting)

      by zekica ( 1953180 ) on Thursday March 20, 2025 @09:13AM (#65246937)
      Windows XP didn't have a compositing window manager and instead sent WM_PAINT messages to apps to repaint themselves when they became visible again. That's ~30MB per window extra RAM/VRAM required for Vista and newer. So let's say ~512MB extra with 15 windows. Next, with Windows 10, Microsoft stopped optimizing their disk access for HDDs and that made it almost unusable on HDD with the same amount of RAM as 7. Next, Microsoft stopped developing their Trident/Edge web browser engine and switched to Chromium that uses a lot of RAM to store all the JIT-ted versions of JS loaded. Then came all the Electron apps that don't share the same chromium engine but instead each has it's own copy in the RAM. Then came React/React Native and it's duplicate copy of DOM that makes it faster at the expense of RAM.

      • Yeah well that generally happened when RAM became cheap. Why optimise for something easily fixed in hardware. Look when I code something on PC I reach for Electron or some other highly bloated framework. When I code for an 8bit microcontroller I move around bits manually using inline assembly code mixed with a bit of low-level C.

        We could be efficient on the PC, but what's the point. It's clear that pretty fluid moving interfaces sell. Smash together and animation and throw 100MB of RAM at it, consumers have

    • Remember when DOS only needed 640K of RAM?!

    • I have used Windows 3.0, 3.01, WWG, XP, 2000, Even ME and 8, 7, 10, and now 11. I was oddly a proud owner of Windows 2000 Professional, and used to do slipstreams with 48-bit HD addressing to keep it going. Things slid downhill fast after Windows XP. Windows 7 was no darling, but it was well accepted. I can't yearn for Windows 10--because they filled it with Windows 11 test "features". Windows 11 is not your Operating system--it's theirs.

      A new Microsoft Windows installation is like a newborn baby--that ne

    • That's nothing, my Commodore 64 had 64K of RAM, and I thought that was awesome! Get off my lawn.

  • There are no hardware issues. Win11 is badly implemented and makes the least of what it runs on.

    • Oh, is that the reason Stalker 2 runs so bad on a GTX 960?

      Did you look at the link?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by gweihir ( 88907 )

        You propbably have not heard of things like "Operating System" and you are likely unaware that a "Graphics Drive" depends on it for quite a bit of its work...

        Understandable, things have gotten sooooo complicated these days.

  • So M$ decided to add another program to it's insecure bloated spyware and consider it progress? How, with a decade of fixes, is W10 still requiring updates?
    As I run DWMBlur, Classic Start, Explorer Patcher and Process Tamer along with having to fiddle in the registry just to have the start menu on the right-hand side of the screen, disable spying, remove OneDrive (etc) I can't even update my W11 any more as it completely breaks.
    W11 will only ever be on my gaming PC

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Targon ( 17348 )

      When people run a troubleshooter to try to identify the source of problems, those with a low amount of RAM, storage, or even one of those Intel chips with only two performance cores should hear the reason. Just saying, "it's bloated" without looking at the real source of the problem does NOT help.

      • What W11 installed PC even comes with "low RAM" or "Low storage"??? The installation is so bloated that if you're not on SSD it turns to treacle. Just saying "it's bloated" is simple - pull up the Task Manager and look at all the M$ servives running. That IS the entire problem.
    • Dude, just look at the linked image. It's basic information on the about page.
  • So now Windows will continually suggest that we upgrade our PC?? Who asked for this? Nobody.

  • "It's not code bloat, it's hardware limitations!"

  • I expect this leads to a prominent call-to-action sales pitch for Surface. Like with 'Your computer does not meet the requirements for Windows 11'.

  • I do the same thing.
    Blame performance issues on the hardware.

  • So? They're gonna add more bloat to deflect blame to hardware for how shitty performance is under Windows? Seems very Microsoft. Modern Clippy / Copilot will pop up to direct you to buy Microsoft's Surface every time their never-ending data-slurp slows down system performance. BRILLIANT!

  • At work I had a desktop rig for CFD-simulations. It was meant for post processing and simulations that for various reasons I wanted to run locally and not on the cluster. I don't remember the exact setup anymore, but it was configured with lots of RAM, a good Nvidia GPU, a good CPU etc. The commercial CFD software run quite well, but there was a catch: the PC had both an SSD and a spinning HDD. The dude in the IT department was forced to install the Win10 OS on the HDD because the machine would not boot fro
    • I do CFD simulations on car bodies using OpenFoam, drawn in Rhino 3D, exported to FreeCad, because it's comparably easy to set up a case, though 4-spinning wheels would have to be done my editing the case manually, for now. OpenFoam as a CFD solver in itself is quite comparable to Fluent, but it's free as in free-beer. It runs on Linux, Windows, and OSX. For high-performance computing Docker and Virtualization are not your friends. Here is one of many OpenFoam/Fluent comparisons: https://www.youtube.com/wat [youtube.com]
  • All I see is the usual, "Oh, M$ sucks and Windows is bloated!" It's just some info on an about page that some users would find useful. Like "4GB VRAM might not be enough for high-end gaming", "4-8GB RAM ... running more demanding applications may be challenging". You know, the same stuff you tell anyone who asks you for spec recommendations on their new computer.

    Y'all don't half overreact do ya?

  • I have about $2,500 worth of software written for Microsoft Windows. Because of the ongoing Windows background activity, and the plans to implement to train their AI by stealing my data, I may NOT buy any more Windows-based software. Looking forward, I think the future lies with lightweight operating systems that work for us—instead of someone else.

  • We've got a new app that runs all the time, scans your hardware, and tells you when it's time to spend more money on hardware and software.

    Sure, your computer will be slower, but if you upgrade your computer you won't notice the performance hit as bad. It's a win-win! (For us)

    After running Linux Mint for a few years, I booted in to Win 11 to test an app that I couldn't get working on Linux.

    Windows Updates are intrusive and disrupt your ability to work. Windows Updates require multiple reboots, and long wait

    • ^^^^THIS

      I've been a satisfied Mint user for several years now, and to steal Apple's advertising, "It just works."

      Updates require 1 click to start, 1 click to confirm, and off it goes. When it's done, it's done. No reboots, no weird system side-effects, no wonky shit. It just works. I've never had Mint clobber itself or get itself into a damaged state, unlike Windows updates.

      In fact, it was a succession of failed Windows updates that broke my PC and drove me to switch to Linux. That was years ago and I never

  • This operating system is one of the slowest and the worst. Opening up Explorer and right clicking on a file takes seconds for the right menu to show and that's even the partial menu. When you do the shift, right click to open up the full advanced menu that takes forever also in the order of a few seconds .

    Windows Explorer still crashes consistently and pretty constantly at least once a week for me. That is without any extra libraries loaded into it or any special right click menu options.

    I can even make the

  • Sounds like Windows System Assessment Tool from 2012 and subsystem still present. https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

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