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Scientists Debate Actual Weight of the Internet (wired.com) 38

The internet's physical mass remains contested among scientists, with estimates ranging from a strawberry to something almost unimaginably small. In 2006, Harvard physicist Russell Seitz calculated the internet weighed roughly 50 grams based on server energy, a figure that would now equate to potato-weight given internet growth.

Christopher White, president of NEC Laboratories America, has dismissed this calculation as "just wrong." White suggests a more accurate method that accounts for the energy needed to encode all internet data in one place, yielding approximately 53 quadrillionths of a gram at room temperature. Alternatively, if the internet's projected 175 zettabytes of data were stored in DNA -- a storage medium scientists are actively exploring -- it would weigh 960,947 grams, equivalent to 10.6 American males. Though scientists debate measurement methods, White asserts the web's true complexity makes it "essentially unknowable."

Scientists Debate Actual Weight of the Internet

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  • What is the Internet? It can't *just* be the data. The whole point of it is it enables that data to be moved from one place to another. So at the very least you would have to include the mass of the wires.

  • If The World asks you if the Internet makes it look fat, fake getting a phone call you "have to take" and leave the room.

  • A silly question (Score:4, Interesting)

    by Geoffrey.landis ( 926948 ) on Monday April 07, 2025 @02:17PM (#65287393) Homepage

    It's a silly question. The internet resides on the servers and memories of the computers that comprise it, any reasonable measurement would have to include the servers which hold it. Otherwise, it's like asking "what is the weight of your memories"? Well, your memories reside in your brain. You can't weigh the memories as if they were separate from the brain.

    Information itself has no weight. A FET holding a specific bit, 1 or 0, doesn't weigh any more or less than one holding a random bit (0 or 1 are both information. A random bit has no information.)

  • Mass != Weight (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Roger W Moore ( 538166 ) on Monday April 07, 2025 @02:23PM (#65287419) Journal
    I suspect they were debating the _mass_ of the internet. While weight and mass have some degree of equivalence in a constant gravitational field the internet is distributed around the globe and so it really makes a huge difference in this case since the direction of the gravitational field varies a lots over the surface of the Earth even if the magnitude is only varies a little. So to calculate the weight you not only need to worry about how to calculate the mass but where that mass is located.

    If we assume that the internet is roughly evenly distributed around the planet then he weight of the internet would be close to zero because weight is the force exerted by gravity on an object and summed uniformly over the surface of a sphere that would give zero. However, the Earth is not a perfect sphere and the variations in distribution would mean cancellation would not be perfect, so the result would likely be a very small weight.

    However, if we assume the internet is largely located around the northern hemisphere there will still be a lot of cancellation of the weight and what's left will have a direction pointing towards somewhere close to the south pole.
    • Your need to revisit physics 101 sometime. Weight doesnt cancel out from opposing masses because gravity is an attractive force, not a repulsive one, otherwise stars and planets couldnt form.

      • Your need to revisit physics 101 sometime.

        I do revisit it, usually when I teach it.

        Weight doesnt cancel out from opposing masses because gravity is an attractive force, not a repulsive one

        Weight is a vector quantity and, when those two vectors are pointing in opposite directions it absolutely can and does cancel out. If you have two masses that make up the distributed internet located on polar opposite sides of the planet both will be attracted towards the centre of the planet and so will have exactly opposite weights that, when you sum them to find the total weight of the entire internet will give zero.

        So yes, Newtonian gravity is only attractiv

        • Weight is a vector quantity

          Ehh, you *can* define it that way, but it's often defined as a scalar quantity W=mg, were m and g are both scalars, and *always* used that way in common parlance (and scientific parlance rarely considers weight). Even the most anal physicist, if asked their weight, would only give it in vector notation if they were trying to make a point.

    • Unless the mass is given by a rather loquacious priest. And then it's a very long wait.
      • by Potor ( 658520 )

        Unless the mass is given by a rather loquacious priest. And then it's a very long wait.

        took me a bit. bravo

  • ... would be the physical weight of the hardware that runs it - servers, routers , gateways, cables, boosters, client devices etc , and the amount of power it requires which I suspect is probably that of a small country.

  • "We mean the internet itself. The information. The data."

    The internet is networks. NOT THE DATA.

    They might *tenuously* stretch "the internet's data" as the data that is actually travelling on the network at any one time.

    But the internet is very much *not* all the data that is actually just sitting on powered-down hard drives, IRRELEVANT to calculating anything to do with the networks it might - or probably not - one day travel on.

    Wired, since it started, has always been about arty wankers trying to muscle i
  • Science doesn't typically deal in philosophy. And that's what this question ultimately is. A modern philosophical question. How to you weigh / measure a network topology if you aren't including the hardware? You can't. You don't. It's like asking how much a dream weighs. The Internet is the network, the connections, the data flying to and fro. You can't weigh that, nor does it have a mass. I can't imagine anyone thinking of themselves as a scientist would entertain this question as a part of science. As a f

    • by XanC ( 644172 )

      What do you think a PhD stands for? Science is a branch of philosophy.

      Totally agree with your overall point though.

  • Bigly even.

    This is not the stupidest clickbait ever posted but it's BRILLIANT and a LIFE-HACK and YOU WON"T BELIEVE IT and A DOCTOR says "something" and it will CURE YOUR HEMMOROIDS and FIX YOUR BLOOD SUGAR and STOP YOUR FOOT FUNGUS and CUT YOUR BELLY FAT.

    Not in six months. Not in 90 days. TOMORROW. You'll be a new you. Bigly.

    Also it's entirely irrelevant what "the Internet weighs" and how to equation-ize mass to energy and how to sum energy of so many disparate systems (that would be the Bigly Internet

  • There are too many scientists in too few jobs.

  • This is yet another case of people confusing the Internet with the World Wide Web. The Internet is not information -- it is a network over which information is transferred. As such it is made up of networking equipment, routers, switches, cables, etc; the collective weight of which is surely many thousands of tons.

    • by marcle ( 1575627 )

      I'd say that's an underestimate. The many thousands of miles of cable and fiber must weigh some orders of magnitude more than that.

  • Maybe America males need to spend less time debating the weight of the internet and more time running around looking for it.

  • How heavy are all the bits stored in RAM required for internet to operate ?
    • I broke my desk the other day. I added more RAM to my laptop. Then I started Chrome, about that same time the table crumbled under the weight of all those bits in memory. I should have stayed at 640k.

  • ... "how loud is blue"?

    (I mean, I know weed is largely legal now, but still ...)

  • Know how sometimes a company sends you a tiny box packed in a huge peanut-laded shipping box?

    Sizing the internet and it's packaging is like that... but it's more like you packaged a strawberry in the Empire State Building.

  • The real question they should be answering is, "How much does the Library of Congress weigh?", because that's how we quantify the information on the Internet.

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