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Bluesky Can't Take a Joke (wired.com) 211

On Bluesky, the joke's on you if you don't get the joke. The social network has become a "refuge" for those fleeing X and Threads, but its growing pains include a serious case of humor-impairment. When Amy Brown jokingly posted she was "screaming, crying, and throwing up" about price differences between Ohio and California Walgreens, literal-minded users scolded her for exaggerating. Brown, a former Wendy's social media manager who got banned from X after impersonating Elon Musk, puts it simply: "We're both speaking English, but I'm speaking internet."

This clash stems from Bluesky's oddly mixed population: irony-steeped Twitter refugees mingling with earnest Facebook transplants and MSNBC viewers who took the plunge after seeing the platform mentioned on shows like Morning Joe. "It's riff collapse," says cartoonist Mattie Lubchansky, describing how her obviously absurd Oscar post triggered sincere movie recommendations.

Bluesky Can't Take a Joke

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  • by 93 Escort Wagon ( 326346 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @05:29AM (#65289131)

    I sometimes wonder if, 50-100 years from now, people will look back at this era and marvel at how we somehow expected social media to not invariably devolve into a steaming pile of crap.

    • by Kokuyo ( 549451 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @05:47AM (#65289137) Journal

      I am much more concerned with archeologists stumbling over the data on there and thinking we were all this stupid... you know, like people today think people were stupid in the middle ages for being illiterate (which back then meant not being able to read latin, the scholar language).

      You know how historians operate, right? Everything they find is put into context with other things from the same region and area to try and paint a picture. Getting close to the truth with incomplete data and so forth.

      Now if someone stumbles over Idiocracy in a thousand years, that alone should not make them judge our whole era... but if you add the VAST data trove that is social media to that, it's gonna corroborate a LOT of that movie.

      • by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @07:13AM (#65289227)

        Given how much bitrot has occured in recent years, and how much censorship is happening currently, I expect archeologists looking back on our era are going to find a whole pile of nothing.

        There's no archival storage format in existence that could store all of the current internet's data, let alone keep up with its ongoing day-to-day changes.

        • I mean, if all the data is in one place you wouldn't be called a "data archeologist", you would be called an "archivist"

          Data archeologist implies the "digging up" (maybe literally) of data from long lost places. Perhaps a personal backup in an old house or an intact hard drive from a garbage dump.

        • Youtube is a horrific mixture of censorship and insufficient database power just randomly dropping posts.

          Conversations are basically swiss cheese there.

          I get notifications for messages that are gone.

          I get notifications from discussions and when I return, I have no idea what I said because my own posts are gone.

          Sometimes, I can figure out it was censored.

          Sometimes, I can break the post into smaller posts and use synonyms to avoid censorship.

          Sometimes, I have *no idea* why a completely innocuous post is gone

          • Youtube turned into a steaming pile of crap when they started AI censoring things to the point that people have to bleep their own content. It doesn't make any sense because anybody watching it still knows what was said. There's some video somewhere with some feminist or something talking about the old feminist cliche "all sex is rape." When she uses the phrase, she has to censor "sex" and "rape," and in the closed captioning it comes out as "all s*x is r*pe." They similarly censor words like "gun", "asshol

        • The Library of Congress used to back up Twitter, but decided that it was either too much or not worth it back in 2017:

          https://www.npr.org/sections/t... [npr.org]

          Their last scraping of /. was 2023: https://www.loc.gov/item/lcwaN... [loc.gov]

      • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

        Your concern is that future historians might assume you were stupid? You're not concerned that there will be no future historians? Perhaps the problem then is that you are stupid.

        "...it's gonna corroborate a LOT of that movie."

        As it should. You're worried that people in the future will have a clear picture of their past. This is what narcissism looks like.

    • BlueSky already is a huge steaming pile crap i had two Linux feeds i had to remove because of shitposters, windows fanboys trolling, and topic crap that was obviously AI generated gobbledygook, and some advertising thinly disguised as user posts, social media mostly sucks, all of it sucks - Bluesky, facebook/instagram/meta, X/twitter they are all shit, i have better satisfactions reading 4chan and slashdot
    • by dfghjk ( 711126 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @07:50AM (#65289277)

      Social media started as a steaming pile of crap, it was always a race to the bottom. Twitter's "innovation" was literally limited message lengths, a "feature" they eventually removed. Foursquare's "innovation" was to post twitter messages automatically! Social media has never been about anything other than greed and exploitation. Devolving not required.

      But yeah, plenty will look back and wonder how we didn't see this coming. Hindsight works that way.

  • Mod this... (Score:4, Insightful)

    by greytree ( 7124971 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @05:37AM (#65289133)
    -1 Troll
    • Sounds like you're a humorless BlueSky user.

  • by jfdavis668 ( 1414919 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @06:49AM (#65289199)
    Great place if you can't take a joke.
  • by jrnvk ( 4197967 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @06:57AM (#65289209)

    When you market yourself as the alternative offering, you are going to get some alternative thinking followers.

  • by Viol8 ( 599362 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @06:58AM (#65289211) Homepage

    Far too many people - usually americans but its spreading elsewhere in the english speaking world - these days think overdone "ironic" hyperbole is a valid substitute for a sensible or amusing comment. Its not , its juvenile, cliched and dull.

  • by jovius ( 974690 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @07:25AM (#65289241)

    It is like any other social media. After muting words and accounts you do not want to see and with active curation of the timeline, the content can be rather nice and center on your interests.

    Besides, the default Bluesky is only one implementation of the base protocol and it can be forked into oblivion.

    Feels like people who complain about the content on social media simply have low agency.

    • I just wish they had some more powerful blocking options, now. Like, I don't want to see any posts on which I cannot comment.

      Well, that's not all I wish. I wish I could post images reliably. It works occasionally.

      • "don't want to see any posts on which I cannot comment."

        The inconsistency of Reddit pages is why I despise that platform and think it's a trash place for discourse. The rules keep changing from page to page. 60% of the time you comment, it pretends like it's going to work, then the comment gets removed because your reputation with the local Reddit fiefdom hasn't been established.

  • Like-minded? (Score:5, Insightful)

    by RobinH ( 124750 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @07:37AM (#65289257) Homepage
    Why would you want to be on a platform with only a bunch of like-minded individuals? Understanding begins with hearing something you either haven't heard before, or don't necessarily agree with, and trying to understand where they're coming from. The last thing we need is more echo chambers.
    • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

      Generally, people don't like hate spewed at them. The real question is why people want to be on platforms at all.

      The value of forums, "platforms", is for people to share common interests, social platforms are not "echo chambers", like-mindedness is an inherent property these tools. The problem is what the common interests have become, and sadly the common interests of today are hate of other people. This is not because people have changed, it is because propagandists have learned to exploit social media,

    • by EvilSS ( 557649 )

      Why would you want to be on a platform with only a bunch of like-minded individuals? Understanding begins with hearing something you either haven't heard before, or don't necessarily agree with, and trying to understand where they're coming from. The last thing we need is more echo chambers.

      Stop lying asshole. No one is buying your shit. You and people like you should be in jail. Retard.


      That's what "discourse" with those with opposing viewpoints looks like on X these days. Fuck that.

      • by RobinH ( 124750 )
        Is Bluesky any different? [thefp.com] I don't want to hang around any place where death threats are tolerated (whether that's X or Bluesky or whatever the web 2.0 flavour of the day is).
        • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
          Don't know, I don't use it. But I see you quickly abandoned your original premise.
          • by RobinH ( 124750 )
            My original premise is that I don't want to hang around an echo chamber. One of the properties of a social media echo chamber is that if anyone comes in with a different point of view then the community attacks, shames, doxxes, and threatens them until they conform or leave. I said I didn't want to hang around a place that tolerates death threats. Both of these ideas are consistent.
            • by EvilSS ( 557649 )
              The problem is today, pretty much all social media is broken up into echo chambers. X, Bluesky (I guess), Facebook groups, subreddits, etc. Hell this might be one of the few places that isn't one.
    • Maybe you're too stupid to understand intelligent productive discourse. Stop being a cuck for the criminals you vote for.

      ---

      So, that's the type of discourse that breaks you out of your echo chamber and engages you in productive conversation?

  • Somebody didn't take a joke on a twitter clone? This is news?

    • WE COULD USE HTML TAGS... sarcasm and joking.

      It would be hard for a teenage maturity to comeback with "I was being sarcastic" when they failed to tag their sarcasm and that was an easy feature to use. Same with joking. Sure people would use the stuff ironically but that at least would be raising the intelligence of things a bit.

      This would help greatly for AI, language translation, and text to speech. Having an AI screw up your words with unintended sarcastic tone can completely change meaning. I laugh at

      • by mysidia ( 191772 )

        It would be hard for a teenage maturity to comeback with "I was being sarcastic" when they failed to tag

        Under typical conditions 99% of sarcastic humor or "it was a joke" is being used to add cover for being a bad person or having fun yourself at others' expense.

        They'd just forget to use the tags, anyways.

        The tags would also spoil the punch line if it was true sarcastic humor, and there would be arguments for not using the tags even when available.

      • If you need a sarcasm tag, then maybe you just don't get sarcasm.

  • Is devising a manner where individuals can talk at people, and only receive feedback agreeing with them/saying they're wise/telling them they're hilarious. Whoever comes up with this will win the internet.

    People claim to want discourse, but they don't. They want validation that's instant and effortless.

    "You like this? OMG you're so right, it's so awesome"
    "You think that? OMG that's so insightful and true"
    "You told a joke? ROFL!"

    etc etc etc
    • This.
      Chatbots are going to win much of the internet users with exactly this kind of thing! But less obvious and with some breaks in the pattern real sycophants may not normally do... It might be good if it can hook future cult leaders...

      In addition, the boost one gets from looking down comparatively upon others in some way. Same thing that powers reality TV but predates it... somebody wonders into your tribe and you all beat them down and send them away.
      Or the bar brawler mentality (can be outside tribe)

      • by jp10558 ( 748604 )

        Culture has shifted greatly... everybody tends to talk AT people and are hardly listening waiting for their opening so they can talk. A giveaway is when they track back to the topic they were holding on to

        I do think that it really depends on the forum. Some people want to talk about certain topics, and here's where reddit or discord kind of succeed where I gather X and Bluesky fail - areas about certain things. I have 0 interest in talking about cricket. I know almost nothing about the game, and I don't lik

    • OMG that's so insightful and true!
    • That's bullshit. Study after study has shown that engagement is driven by vitriolic disagreement. If everyone's parroting my ideas, why would I even read the discussion? A tool like this will find the dregs of the Internet with no friends and no romantic prospects. Everyone else would just stop using social networks as the network effect breaks down as echo chambers increasingly become silo'd.

  • So Bluesky is the Germany of social media?
  • A person said something not particularly funny, and some other people were stupid about it. How the fuck does this matter, and why is it being used to label an entire platform?
  • It's easy to whine that people lack a sense of humor if they don't get your joke or parody. But IMO, it's getting pretty old and stale trying to pass off a whole "news story" or imitation of a famous person online as hilariously funny.

    I could go the rest of my life without hearing another bad Donald Trump or Elon Musk imitation, for example. (There's some car dealership in my city that kept running radio ads with terrible Trump and Biden impersonators bantering back and forth about their great deals. Just k

  • There's this adage from standup comedy, I forget exactly how it goes, but basically the line is it's *always* the comedians fault if the audience doesn't laugh.

    You may have a great joke, but if you tell it to the wrong group, and they just groan at you, that's *your* fault, never theirs.

    It's not Bluesky that has the problem. The joke doesn't have a problem. Just this one comedian does.

  • Bluesky or Bluecry? (Score:4, Informative)

    by jdawgnoonan ( 718294 ) on Tuesday April 08, 2025 @01:13PM (#65290069)
    I have heard Bluesky be appropriately referred to as "Bluecry" by some people. Unfortunately, before the politics in America went crazy after half of the country refused to accept that Donald Trump beat Hilary Clinton fare and square by the existing rules of US elections in 2016, I used to consider myself to be a proud liberal. However, most liberals chose to ignore reality and thus separated from it. In 2020 Trump made this worse by refusing to acknowledge his own electoral loss, and so then we had 4 years of an elderly president who obviously was incapable of actually doing the job. Meanwhile, I still considered myself to be "Liberal" but was less proud of it. Many people who were formerly "Liberal" became "Progressives" and if there is one thing that your average Progressive is not, that would be liberal. In fact, most progressives are so uptight and such conformists to their own almost Victorian orthodoxy, that they have become as bad as the "Moral Majority" church lady types that most liberals used to make fun of in the 80s and 90s. So anyway, when Elon Musk bought Twitter, went all in on Trump, and then Trump won, most Progressives decided that out of their moral, superiority they needed to leave Twitter. So they went to this new site which is their special oasis where they can hide from all of the reality that they do not want to acknowledge. And since most of these people are whiners who cannot face the realities of life, it is appropriate to call their little oasis "Bluecry" instead of Bluesky. Because what they like to do is cry.
  • Just because there isn't a culture of punch down humor like on X, doesn't mean there's no comedy. Although I will say the feel is that of a digital refugee camp- A lot of people there are folks who are pissed off at what's happening to the country, so there's less humorous content, and more news discussion. Will say the engagement on Bluesky feels a lot more like old Twitter- fewer bots, lot faster follower count (I'm about to hit 7k), and more people actually wanting to talk instead of just spewing content
  • There's few movies I've laughed as long and as hard as I have in Stallone's magnum opus, Oscar. It won two Razzie awards that year. I couldn't care less! If you're a fan of screwball comedies or of stage plays stumbling onto a movie set, you've got to check it out. It's also one of the very few movies that has Tim Curry not playing a bad guy.
  • I hope they *do shut that shit down* on Bluesky and keep it as a platform for mature adult conversation.

    Because we've seen it repeatedly turn platforms into cesspools.

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