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WSJ Says China 'Acknowledged Its Role in U.S. Infrastructure Hacks' (msn.com) 47

Here's an update from the Wall Street Journal about a "widespread series of alarming cyberattacks on U.S. infrastructure."

China was behind it, "Chinese officials acknowledged in a secret December meeting... according to people familiar with the matter..." The Chinese delegation linked years of intrusions into computer networks at U.S. ports, water utilities, airports and other targets, to increasing U.S. policy support for Taiwan, the people, who declined to be named, said... U.S. officials went public last year with unusually dire warnings about the uncovered Volt Typhoon effort. They publicly attributed it to Beijing trying to get a foothold in U.S. computer networks so its army could quickly detonate damaging cyberattacks during a future conflict. [American officials at the meeting perceived the remarks as "intended to scare the U.S. from involving itself if a conflict erupts in the Taiwan Strait."]

The Chinese official's remarks at the December meeting were indirect and somewhat ambiguous, but most of the American delegation in the room interpreted it as a tacit admission and a warning to the U.S. about Taiwan, a former U.S. official familiar with the meeting said... In a statement, the State Department didn't comment on the meeting but said the U.S. had made clear to Beijing it will "take actions in response to Chinese malicious cyber activity," describing the hacking as "some of the gravest and most persistent threats to U.S. national security...."

A Chinese official would likely only acknowledge the intrusions even in a private setting if instructed to do so by the top levels of Xi's government, said Dakota Cary, a China expert at the cybersecurity firm SentinelOne. The tacit admission is significant, he said, because it may reflect a view in Beijing that the likeliest military conflict with the U.S. would be over Taiwan and that a more direct signal about the stakes of involvement needed to be sent to the Trump administration. "China wants U.S. officials to know that, yes, they do have this capability, and they are willing to use it," Cary said.

The article notes that top U.S. officials have said America's Defense Department "will pursue more offensive cyber strikes against China."

But it adds that the administration "also plans to dismiss hundreds of cybersecurity workers in sweeping job cuts and last week fired the director of the National Security Agency and his deputy, fanning concerns from some intelligence officials and lawmakers that the government would be weakened in defending against the attacks."

WSJ Says China 'Acknowledged Its Role in U.S. Infrastructure Hacks'

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  • Please leave this kind of Neocon cyberBS to NPR.
  • oops... (Score:2, Offtopic)

    "The article notes that top U.S. officials have said America's Defense Department 'will pursue more offensive cyber strikes against China.' " Oooops, DOGE fired those guys.
  • by EreIamJH ( 180023 ) on Saturday April 12, 2025 @10:40PM (#65301915)

    The Chinese official's remarks at the December meeting were indirect and ambiguous, but most of the American delegation in the room interpreted it...

    Another example of our wonderful mainstream media working hard to bring us truth and accuracy every day.

    • We based our conclusions on the brand of watch he wore.

    • U.S. officials went public last year

      The Chinese delegation linked years of intrusions into computer networks at U.S. ports, water utilities, airports and other targets, to increasing U.S. policy support for Taiwan, the people, who declined to be named, said

      The Chinese official's remarks at the December meeting were indirect and somewhat ambiguous, but most of the American delegation in the room interpreted it as a tacit admission and a warning to the U.S. about Taiwan, a former U.S. official familiar with the meeting said..

      "China wants U.S. officials to know that, yes, they do have this capability, and they are willing to use it," Cary said.

      Finally a real name attached ... to pure speculation. One might ask why China would think it is necessary to confirm the capability or their willingness to use it to people who are accusing them of both. So the only named source here is a self-promoter from some obscure security company with no real indication of any particular expertise. He's a "China expert."

      This is really an indication of how the power relationship between journalists and sources has become entirely one-sided. There was a time when jo

      • by msauve ( 701917 )
        > One might ask why China would think it is necessary to confirm the capability or their willingness to use it to people who are accusing them of both.

        Only a stupid one.

        "Of course, the whole point of a Doomsday machine is lost if you keep it a secret! Why didn't you tell the world?" - Dr Strangelove
    • by Entrope ( 68843 )

      Have you read or listened to how Chinese officials usually speak? Indirect and ambiguous comment is a core part of their communication technique, even when they intend a very specific meaning.

  • Transcript of Internet Caucus Panel Discussion [techlawjournal.com]
    Re: Administration's new encryption policy. Date: September 28, 1999.
    Weldon statement. [techlawjournal.com]

    Rep. Curt Weldon : Thank you. Let me see if I can liven things up here in the last couple of minutes of the luncheon. First of all, I apologize for being late. And I thank Bob and the members of the caucus for inviting me here.
    ...
    But the point is that when John Hamre briefed me, and gave me the three key points of this change, there are a lot of unanswered questions. He

  • [insert "Sure, Jan" meme GIF here]

    A State Department stenographer newspaper accusing the latest boogeyman and quoting unnamed sources. **rolls eyes**
  • So, essentially China is saying to the US, if you step in when we invade Taiwan, we'll launch a cyber Pearl Harbor on you. That, of course, will force the US from being a bystander in the Taiwan conflict to being a direct participant. It wasn't smart of the Japanese to do that many years ago, and it wouldn't be smart of the Chinese to do that in the future. Especially after admitting in advance of the massive cyber attack, since a massive cyber attack would be tantamount to a missile attack.

  • Why didn't the Administration Do anything about it? Absolutely NOTHING. They should cut off China Totally from the US market, Strangle their economy till it causes a revolution in retaliation for China's Attacks.
  • by Tetch ( 534754 ) on Sunday April 13, 2025 @02:07AM (#65302125) Journal

    He fired the head and deputy head of the NSA ?????

    Is he completely insane .... oh wait ... I forgot for a moment.

    So now there is nobody competent directing the US Infosec function. Great.

    • So now there is nobody competent directing the US Infosec function. Great.

      You have nobody competent directing the government in general. Why should the departments within the government be any different?

    • I'm sure Laura Loomer will tell him about her nephew who is a great infosec leader and also a big fan of Trump.

      All hail the new NSA, now dedicated to monitoring Unamerican Activities like disagreeing with Trump.

    • Laura Loomer, a right wing podcaster, apparently convinced him that the head of NSA wasn't loyal to him because the head of NSA was appointed by President Biden. I haven't been able to find anything about her actual job. Just that she's 31 and became famous for pushing a 9/11 conspiracy theory. She would have been 7 or 8 when 9/11 happened. Something doesn't add up.
    • We've always got Barron.
  • by felixrising ( 1135205 ) on Sunday April 13, 2025 @02:09AM (#65302127)
    And despite Trump thinking Russia is now an ally after having help to win the election, and him instructing CISA to stop monitoring and reporting on Russian hacking activities, the reality is China and Russia are allies and there is no real reason to justify the reduced security posture with respect to Russia. But hey, the orange clown has spoken. The world according to Trumpâ
  • The US says we do it to them too, but we're the victims.

    Funny thing is, hacking the US is easy. China is hard.

    Asian Americans make up about 4.5% of the US military, and 4.3% of the US intelligence services. Assume about half of that is Chinese American. Assume half of that speaks at least one Chinese language proficiently, expect less than one quarter of that reads and writes one of the two written Chinese languages with high school proficiency. In other words, even with state-of-the-art AI, the US cannot e

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