America's Electric Vehicle Sales Have Jumped 10.6% Compared to 2024 (eastbaytimes.com) 113
Sales of electric vehicles in America jumped 10.6% in the first three months of 2025 (compared to the same period in 2024), reports Bloomberg.
And research provider BloombergNEF expects all of 2025 will see a 31.5% sales increase from 2024's sales in the U:S. — slightly above the global increase rate of 30%. (That's 22 million battery-powered vehicles around the world.)
"EV adoption is cruising along in the U.S.," Bloomberg writes, with interest "spreading from early-adopters to mainstream consumers" tired of paying for gas and oil changes — and attracted by new products from familiar brands: Of the 63 or so fully electric cars and trucks on the U.S. market, one quarter weren't available a year ago. The product blitz includes the first EV offerings from Acura, Dodge and Jeep, second models from Mini and Porsche and two more battery-powered machines each from Cadillac and Volvo...
Many of the new EVs are relatively affordable. Cox Automotive estimates the price spread between EVs broadly and internal combustion cars and trucks has shrunk to just $5,000. General Motors, meanwhile, plans to resurrect its Chevrolet Bolt later this year with a price point around $30,000...
And research provider BloombergNEF expects all of 2025 will see a 31.5% sales increase from 2024's sales in the U:S. — slightly above the global increase rate of 30%. (That's 22 million battery-powered vehicles around the world.)
"EV adoption is cruising along in the U.S.," Bloomberg writes, with interest "spreading from early-adopters to mainstream consumers" tired of paying for gas and oil changes — and attracted by new products from familiar brands: Of the 63 or so fully electric cars and trucks on the U.S. market, one quarter weren't available a year ago. The product blitz includes the first EV offerings from Acura, Dodge and Jeep, second models from Mini and Porsche and two more battery-powered machines each from Cadillac and Volvo...
Many of the new EVs are relatively affordable. Cox Automotive estimates the price spread between EVs broadly and internal combustion cars and trucks has shrunk to just $5,000. General Motors, meanwhile, plans to resurrect its Chevrolet Bolt later this year with a price point around $30,000...
up 24% in Europe (Score:5, Interesting)
Probably helps that Europe is mandating the end of ICE vehicles, is gearing up properly to support it and doesn't have an administration actively shitting all over vehicle sales and renewable plans.
Re:up 24% in Europe (Score:5, Informative)
Probably helps that Europe is mandating the end of ICE vehicles, is gearing up properly to support it and doesn't have an administration actively shitting all over vehicle sales and renewable plans.
The EU all by itself has caused a lot of regulatory change world wide by simply by standardizing its internal market in some way which led various companies and countries around the world to just follow their lead despite not being forced to do so simply because adopting EU standards is easier and more cost effective since EU standards are usually higher than most other places they do business. But its not just Europe that is going to force the change to EVs, it's China and California as well. Together those three massive economies encouraging a quick end to ICE vehicles are an almost unstoppable force for change. Now enter stage right a legion of die-hard ICE enthusiasts protesting the unfairness and downright tyranny that is technological progress.
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But your second sentence (abridged) tells us why this is *very* important: "To me, it looks more to be the recognition of the fact that BEVs [are] ideal daily drivers."
That signals the beginning of the end of fossil fuel vehicles and is a great step towards saving mankind.
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I agree with your points.
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Do you mean, you would not over-estimate the importance of the EU's EV mandate on driving EU growth in EV share? Because if so, the thing you were saying about relegating the SUV to the weekend and driving 300 miles to a lake with a boat trailer is wrong, because a tiny fraction of Europeans do something like this.
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BEVs can be cheaper to operate than ICEs, but not always. A Prius gets 57 mpg, and at the current US average gas price of $3.19/g, that comes out to $0.056/mile. BEV mileage ranges from 2.5 to 5 miles/kWh, so the breakeven point would be around $0.13 to $0.28/kWh, depending on which BEV. The average residential electricity price is about $0.17/kWh. So, it's not clear that BEVs are cheaper per mile compared to ICEs. Yes, they're cheaper if the ICE being compared to is a Hummer, but for those who care, a
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Rare can also mean "dispersed" or "low density". This usage is still common when talking about air. For example, sound is a train of alternating compression and rarefication of air. Jet aircraft are more efficient when flying in the rarefied air at high altitude. It is also still somewhat common when talking about social status, basically by metaphor. But it was on
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And by "we", I mean the fucking morons who destroyed our ability to reprocess uranium and build thorium reactors.
Uranium is expensive to process. It nearly doubles the cost of France's nuclear program, for example. It's also a bit ironic that you mention thorium reactors and reprocessing in the same mouthful of bullshit, when there's no plan for reprocessing thorium.
Re:up 24% in Europe (Score:4, Informative)
Do you have a citation on this? Last I'd heard, fuel was a rounding error in the operation of a nuclear plant.
I can easily see reprocessed uranium fuel being twice as expensive as fresh though.
And talking about 'reprocessing thorium' makes me think you haven't studied the issue. You breed thorium, not reprocess it.
Any thorium reactor is going to have processing involved. It is part of the design.
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Do you have a citation on this? Last I'd heard, fuel was a rounding error in the operation of a nuclear plant.
It's not the fuel, it's the reprocessing of the fuel. Did you try to find info on the cost of their reprocessing?
And talking about 'reprocessing thorium' makes me think you haven't studied the issue. You breed thorium, not reprocess it.
Breeding isn't a form of processing? And breed once, good forever? Way to bury the lede! Someone should have told me about this example of perpetual motion sooner!
Re:up 24% in Europe (Score:4, Informative)
You breed it once, you use it up. You don't have the problem with Uranium that you have to pull it out at 10% or whatever usage to remove the contaminants.
I asked you for a citation because that way I don't have to sort through the cruft.
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Uranium reprocessors were perfectly able to be awful at reprocessing without any help required. Also the Thorium dream is mostly born from the same fear which helped kill reprocessing, proliferation. The sheer complexity of the thorium reactors and the need for seeding are a mess. Meanwhile the endless expensive sodium leaks did as much to kill fast reactors as the greens. There were plenty of morons on all sides, greens, non-proliferators and sodium loving nukees.
Just use lead cooled fast reactor with high
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The sodium (lithium beryllium) leaks are chemical problems, not radioactive ones. And those were more of a problem after the units were shut down, than while the reactor was running.
As for the start-up uranium seeding, has anyone tried using an alternative neutron source, say a medical imager?
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Chemical problems can still be expensive. The Russians finally got high up time by having two completely redundant secondary cooling systems, well isn't that cute. If Rosatom really thought Sodium was working well for them, they wouldn't be building Brest (lead cooled fast reactor).
Sure, people have thought about doing accelerator based fast reactors, but what are you trying to solve? A solid fuel assembly in an Uranium fast reactor can do all the work of multiple complex systems in a thorium based reactor.
Re:up 24% in Europe (Score:4, Informative)
"The Discovery and Commercialization of the Rare Earth Elements
The term rare earth was coined when an unusual black rock was unearthed by a miner in Ytterby, Sweden, in 1788. The ore was called “rare” because it had never been seen before and “earth” because that was the 18th-century geological term for rocks that could be dissolved in acid. In 1794 the chemist Johan Gadolin named this previously unknown “earth” yttria, after the town where it was discovered. Over time the mines around Ytterby extracted rocks that yielded four elements named for the town (yttrium, ytterbium, terbium, and erbium)."
[ Oh, and fuck the lazy Slashdot owners, I'm not fixing the quotes just because they gave up on this site.]
https://www.sciencehistory.org/education/classroom-activities/role-playing-games/case-of-rare-earth-elements/history-future/
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Thorium only becomes important after you've transitioned to nuclear energy. It solves the problem that there isn't enough uranium to run the entire world for more than a few decades, but that's a problem we're not anywhere near bumping up against yet. Lack of investment in thorium has no impact on the status quo, it is not easier or cheaper to work with at present.
As for uranium, the problem is not the high cost of uranium. It's the low cost of competitive fuels and the opportunity cost of financing the c
Re:up 24% in Europe (Score:5, Insightful)
Gee, one wishes that la Presidenta had never started this trade war foolishness and then getting parts would not be problem except for the paranoid.
Some members of la Presidenta's junta recently went to a confab in Europe on energy and they argued for importing more American gas and oil to insulate Europe from oil and gas shocks. The Europeans (one imagines) smiled indulgently and then went on to discuss renewable energy and how that would insulate them from oil and gas shocks. My guess is that with a lunatic in the White House, they couldn't trust the U.S. further than they could spit a two-headed rat. And that is just one fallout of la Presidenta's modus operandi.
His commerce secretary tried to argue in the national news media that la Presidenta's flakiness was strategic flakiness....or something that translates into flakiness. But he managed to get the important "strategic" buzzword in there so the maggots could chortle to themselves about 3.14159... dimensional Checkers.
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That is one thing that people don't seem to realise about green energy. It's objectively available to most of the world allowing the creation of energy independence, if not totally than at least to reduce price shock during an upset.
Germany has nothing but coal. ... again coal.
France coal and petroleum, and relies on its colonisation and three of the former Soviet "stans" to keep it's nuclear reactors going.
Spain
Unless you want to go back to putting coal plants everywhere, green energy is one solution to en
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Now, if you actually cared to know, rather than spout Correct Idiotology... I searched on "where does europe get electricity", and first hit "61% of Europe's electricity was generated from clean sources last year, above the global average of 41%. Fossil fuels are in decline across much of Europe, with 61% of electricity now coming from clean power, including 20% from nuclear, 18% from hydro and 20% from fast-growing wind and solar.Apr 10, 2025
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Eventually.
For the time being my European country has decided to tax EVs all to hell and make ICEs more economical to drive again (with solar and if you can charge during the day, you can still come out ahead, but that's an edge case). UK just watered down its ZEV mandate immensely too.
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In Europe we found that as EVs got more common and people started to see through all the lies about them, sales started to increase.
They read in the paper about fires and not being able to go 50 miles without stopping for an 8 hour charge and all that nonsense. But then someone they know gets one, loves it, laughs at the daft stories they read on Facebook, and they take a ride and see how smooth and quiet it is.
People also seem to have needed to have their concept of distance re-calibrated. When I got my fi
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Really? Looking at some tests of the Mach-E it should be good for an absolute minimum of 200 miles in the worst conditions - sub zero temperatures, heavy rain etc. He must live a hell of a long way from work.
A Kia EV 3 might be better for someone like him. Closer to 400 miles range and I think cheaper too. It's the budget end of their EV line-up and a very good car.
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But the Kia doesn't have a 480 HP engine and go from 0-60 in 4 seconds. With aggressive use of those things, you can really cut down the range that the battery can manage.
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True, it's "only" 210 HP and 0-62 in 7.5 seconds.
Maybe the Ioniq 5 N? 641bhp, zero to sixty in 3.0 seconds, and it's even got a fake gearbox and vroom vroom sounds if you want to pretend you are in a fossil.
Also does about 275 miles on a charge, which seems low for the 84kWh battery, although I hear that Hyundai deliberately reduced it to temper customer expectations. People say it goes a lot further when driven normally.
Re:up 24% in Europe (Score:4, Informative)
Re:up 24% in Europe (Score:5, Interesting)
As an EV owner myself, I can say that most of the negative propaganda about exploding cars and range is nonsense. However, one issue I have found that is talked about less is serviceability. Most garages and mechanics are simply not equipped to work on them, and parts are not widely available. For most non-trivial problems, you end up having to go back to the dealer, and you are sort of at their mercy. For that reason, make sure you go with a manufacturer that offers good warranty coverage on the electronics, battery, and drive train.
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A warranty is definitely peace of mind. The cars with the highest risk of fire are hybrids - packing two systems into the same space must add a lot of heat, complexity and risk of failure.
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The cars with the highest risk of fire are Kias and Hyundais. They are twice as likely to spontaneously combust as the average. Somehow the Koreans are terrible at doing the fuel lines in the engine compartment. This is the commonest source of automotive fire overall (one of my first memories is of my father's Toronado burning down in our driveway) but they are especially bad at it.
The cars most likely to kill you in an accident are Teslas. They are about an order of magnitude more likely to do it than a Pi
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you end up having to go back to the dealer, and you are sort of at their mercy
God bless the early adopters even though we've had electric cars for a while so it's questionable to use the word early here. Repairs are one area where the Tesla Model 3 and Y have a leg up due to their ubiquity.
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We do have registered parking spots for each vehicle, and that might very well be how it's accomplished, require every parking place to have a BEV charging spot, but Europe doesn't seem to have any of that.
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I think Europe will do what Norway already does - install AC chargers everywhere. They can go on streets & car parks where people park their cars for the majority of times. With some joined up thinking they could even have chargers which offer preferential charging rates for nearby residents. And then put financial incentives in place for people to install home chargers and solar panel systems.
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In some boroughs of London (Westminster for example) there are chargers on many if not most lamp-posts. Very cool.
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Americans are a little more freaked out by EV range than Europeans. Although there's enough chargers in most cities that it isn't likely going to hinder someone commuting or picking up groceries.
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Americans are a little more freaked out by EV range than Europeans.
I once worked with a guy from New Hampshire in a moderately sized Texas town (about 300,000). Said he couldn't take the wide open spaces and that it took 8.5 hours (400 miles) to get to Dallas.
In a twist of fate, I was assigned to work with him after he left Texas and returned to New Hampshire. I could not adjust to the dense population of the North East - why, I couldn't drive a single mile without passing a dozen homes!
The joke around here is "Sir, this is Texas. We don't walk up the aisle when we marry,
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Up from Previous Year's Decline (Score:2)
Selling a car into the used car market does not affect the new vehicles sales figures
Well of course it does. The alternative to buying a new vehicle is to buy a used one. But that means making used vehicles available would reduce sales of new vehicles assuming the person who is selling into the used car market isn't replacing the car with a new one.
Whenever people start using year over year figures you need to look back on the comparison year and make sure you aren't just seeing the market going back to normal. It appears sales of EV's declined in the first quarter last year.
Buying used is
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Buying used is almost certainly going to result in fewer total new emissions than any new car, electric or not.
If by "almost certainly", you mean "absolutely not [when it's a new EV]", then you're totally right. There's about an 11 ton CO2e cost for manufacturing an new EV. And over the course of a year's driving, there's about a five ton gap in favour of EVs. But of course, that's five tons per year. So it takes just a bit more than a couple of years for an EV to be lower carbon intensity than driving an existing ICE vehicle, even if we pretend that it didn't cost 7.5 tons of CO2e to make the ICE car in the first p
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Presumably in what passes for your mind, this would explain away the sales growth as somehow not real growth or not sustainable or some shit like that. There's *always* a recent set of news stories you can point to as a proximate cause of market share growth or shrinkage. But trends over time are real.
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But trends over time are real.
Blips are real as well. The point is that the "trend over time" changes when you calculate the percentage increase compared to sales two years ago. In fact, there may not have been any increase at all.
this would explain away the sales growth as somehow not real growth or not sustainable
Or simply indicate that it may not represent any permanent change in the market any more then the previous year's decline did. So, yes, it does indicate it might not be sustainable.
Article mentions Tesla three times (Score:2, Insightful)
And not one mention of an expression of love salute, though it does say Tesla faces "other challenges"
Genuine lol at that one
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You think you hate journos enough, but you don't.
Don't worry, I hate Bloomberg and everything for which they stand all day.
Glad the US public sees further than Trump (Score:1)
With seeing further I mean the greater good of the environment.
Re:Glad the US public sees further than Trump (Score:5, Insightful)
Glad the US public sees further than Trump. With seeing further I mean the greater good of the environment.
Quite a bit of it is the better performance and lower maintenance, but with battery prices dropping like a stone if not already then very soon it will be the cheapest, highest performance, and by far the most reliable option. People will look back on internal combustion as noisy, polluting, weak, and Rube Goldberg esque.
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but with battery prices dropping like a stone
Chinese battery prices are dropping like that. US battery prices are not. Dump is fucking up the China import spreadsheets, so until these tariff games stop, you're not getting cheap batteries.
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A missed opportunity for the USA - they had the prohibition era which could have turned their knowledge of distilling into producing liquid biofuels. Who wouldn't want their exhaust pipe to smell like sloe gin?
Okay, except maybe you want to read up on fuel ethanol.
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OPEC has some very interesting member states but many probably not on your list of friendly places to do purple-haired liberal humany-right type stuff while on vacation.
Perhaps. But consider that the number one source of imported oil to the United States is Canada -- one of those "purple-haired liberal humany-right type stuff" nations that many Americans actually visit for vacations. Not so much in the other direction right now.
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Even if the globe wasn't warming, wouldn't you ween yourself off petroleum?
Yes. And it is one of the reasons people are mistrustful of the global warming narrative. I was advocating for solar when "peak oil" was the narrative threat. We should have been so lucky. Solar was the future solution then but it is now the present solution.
The problem with electric cars is that they are a future solution, but we are investing huge resources in them now that would be better spent on the present solutions. We don't need more car chargers, not at the expense of more solar panels. We need fe
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And judging by the polls released today, that %age has increased a lot since November.
"The only thing necessary for the triumph of evil is for good men to choose shit candidates with a hateful woke agenda".
Re:EVs are terrible for the environment (Score:4, Informative)
Smog is not made up of brake dust and tire particulate. Smog is caused by nitrogen compounds and VOCs from the incomplete combustion of fuel and surface level ozone.
Increased nano-particles from tires is an concern with EVs due to greater tire wear, but that is mitigated by the greatly reduced brake dust due to the use of regenerative braking. Either way, it has nothing to due with smog.
Agree with you about the need for better public transit infrastructure.
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Increased nano-particles from tires is an concern with EVs due to greater tire wear, but that is mitigated by the greatly reduced brake dust due to the use of regenerative braking.
Not even close. Brake dust is a tiny amount of mass compared to tire dust, and tire dust is not produced only during braking. Brake dust has been shifting towards being composed of more iron and ceramic for decades now, tires are still mostly plastic. Also, when tires are rubbed away they do produce mostly particulates, but they also produce gases. This is also true of brake pads. Those gases can contribute to smog.
EVs have lower maintenance costs (Score:2)
Trump actually bought EVs (Score:2)
Glad the US public sees further than Trump. With seeing further I mean the greater good of the environment.
Trump has purchased several EVs. And not just the spectacle at the White House. For example there a cyber truck for a grandkid.
294,000 new EV sales - out of 3.91 million (Score:1, Informative)
From the linked article: 294,000 new EV Sales in Q1 2025
As per Reuters: https://www.reuters.com/busine... [reuters.com]
"Overall, U.S. new vehicle sales in the quarter finished at around 3.91 million units, up 4.8% from last year, according to data released by Wards Intelligence on Tuesday"
Sales drivers: People are rushing to buy what they want before tariffs and reduction in incentives cause the price to go up. There are new EV's at lower price points to choose from.
Re:294,000 new EV sales - out of 3.91 million (Score:4, Informative)
> new vehicle sales in the quarter finished at around 3.91 million units, up 4.8% from last year
"Meanwhile, first-quarter electric vehicle sales rose 19.2%..."
Thanks for confirming that EV sales are growing steadily by double digit percentages every quarter, handily outpacing growth for non-EV sales.
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> new vehicle sales in the quarter finished at around 3.91 million units, up 4.8% from last year
"Meanwhile, first-quarter electric vehicle sales rose 19.2%..."
Thanks for confirming that EV sales are growing steadily by double digit percentages every quarter, handily outpacing growth for non-EV sales.
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Yes, they have grown strongly to reach 300k out of 3.91 million.
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And will continue to grow strongly to reach 600k and then 1.2m, 1.8m, 3m and beyond. Trendlines matter, both sales and costs and range increases etc
Puts Tesla fall in an even worse light (Score:3, Insightful)
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Re:Puts Tesla fall in an even worse light (Score:5, Interesting)
To be honest, if Musk wasn't associated with Tesla, then Tesla would get a lot more support and sales at this point. With Musk being involved with Tesla, the majority of people(not just people in the USA) will want to see Tesla die so Musk loses more money/resources/influence.
Musk is now seen as the pro-fascist piece of crap that he is, and anything he touches will now be seen as something to avoid.
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They are faced with a nasty choice: protect the stock price or protect the business. At the moment, they're going for the stock price and hoping that Elon can get his shit together and help them. But given that he's still got his ket-dreams about robotaxis and all that shite, and has given up on mass market affordable cars, I think they're diverting some of his supply for themselves
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Tesla haven't have the balls to dump Musk
For me at least, this wouldn't matter anyway - even if Musk resigned from all of his Tesla responsibilities tomorrow, him and his family remain large Tesla shareholders, so a good share of any money given to Tesla ends up in his pockets.
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people(not just people in the USA) will want to see Tesla die so Musk loses more money/resources/influence
If true this is a petty, immature, and self-destructive stance for people claiming moral outrage. Tesla serves a greater purpose than lining Musk's pockets.
Let's destroy everything good when there's someone involved who we don't like.
Re: Puts Tesla fall in an even worse light (Score:2)
Or, it's a basic case of not supporting those trying to destroy your country.
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Eh? [google.com]
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I'm a mod, genius.
So what you're doing is going around the rules, in a cowardly fashion. Got it.
So, when TSLA stock drops, it's just desert.
OK, Ivan.
Seriously, when will you paid foreign trolls learn to English?
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Year to date: stock has dropped 27%
Sales have dropped 13% year over year in the first quarter
So, yeah, Tesla is busting under pretty much any metric.
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Wow That really adds to the levels of cratering that Tesla is doing The market is booming and they are busting
Tesla had a first mover advantage. Now that there are viable alternative (in some cases cheaper, and for some market spaces better) choices available in the EV space they have to compete in a way they did not have to before. In other words, they have to become a real car company if they want to continue to be a car company.
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Tesla is losing customers and potential customers due to Elon Musk. The board should remove him as being bad for the brand.
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Competition would always catch up with leader (Score:2)
Wow That really adds to the levels of cratering that Tesla is doing The market is booming and they are busting
It was always going to happen. A market leader will always see the competition catch up. Ford, GM, Toyota, Honda, BMW, Mercedes, etc would eventually become competitive in the full EV market.
Pretty much like Apple had a lead, and IBM, HP, etc eventually became competitive.
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Maybe that's all the people in the US replacing the Tesla's torched by vandals
Don't forget all the Democrats selling their Teslas to Republicans.
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Only republican patriots deserve those labels. These are anti President Musk democrat terrorists. I heard it from the White House, and who can be a more trustworthy source than that!
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They're not vandals, they're vacationers and sightseers with fire
Only republican patriots deserve those labels.
I missed all the arson committed by Jan 6'ers.
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I missed all the arson committed by Jan 6'ers.
To you, it's not vandalism unless it's arson? You can collect your red hat from China at the door, I guess. Enjoy it, nothing else is coming here from there any time soon based on the lack of traffic at the ports.
It was supposed to be millions by now (Score:2)
These numbers really are troublesome - and tracks with JD Power pointing to a plateau of EV sales this year. 2024 Q1 was a flat quarter, so a 10 percent uptick with the threat of tariff price increases is not much to write home about. We are far, far behind all projections that the manufacturers, media, and politicians told us we would be at by now.
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We are far, far behind all projections that the manufacturers, media, and politicians told us we would be at by now.
We are far, far behind on everything right now, except descent into fascism.
We love EV's! (Score:3)
....as long as they're not manufactured by the guy we used to love before he left the cult.
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That's ok. He settled into a new cult now.
2nd buyers of cars usually get the better deal (Score:2)
That's ok. He settled into a new cult now.
And they're buying Teslas now. All those used Teslas sold by Democrats, well the 2nd buyer usually gets the better deal. The original buyers hit by a huge loss as they drive the new car off the dealer lot.
guessing but not (Score:2)
Yet more Elon Musk snark (Score:2)
“Tesla wasn’t on the table.”
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“Tesla made $97.7 billion in 2024. The US carmaker's market cap at the end of 2024 was $1.3 trillion.”
Tesla made $97.7 billion in 2024 [buyacar.co.uk]. The US carmaker's market cap at the end of 2024 was $
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$98 billion passed through Tesla's bank accounts. They actually MADE about $7 billion, which was down 50% from 2023. About a quarter of that was from changes in accounting for their crypto holdings too.
Since there's all this Tesla talk here? (Score:2)
I think it's worth remembering that years back, Elon Musk made quite a few comments about the company to the effect of basically hoping he wouldn't even need to manufacture Teslas anymore, once competitors caught up and EVs became mainstream.
This mentality was reinforced by his (failed) push to make the Model 3 a vehicle you wouldn't even buy anymore as an individual customer. Rather, it was envisioned to serve as a robotaxi only, and would only be something people might lease.
I also recall in the early day
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It makes very little sense to me that you think the hallmark of a legacy OEM not understanding EVs is if they build one with fake engine noise. Possibly the most emblematic example of this piped noise is the Ioniq 5 N from Hyundai (and not only piped noise, but fake gear shifts too). This car has had rave reviews from every corner -- crucially including petrolhead reviewers who have previously turned their noses up at EVs. Hyundai have a large and expanding range of EVs, all of which have had positive recep
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At this point, I think they said Musk only holds about 18% of Tesla shares, so all this hate on the cars over him seems really misplaced to me?
Husk's value on paper is based primarily on his involvement with Tesla. If Tesla tanks, Musk tanks. Therefore everyone who now hates Leon for any or all of the many and various reasons one might do that wants Tesla to fail. Some of us would be happy to see them continue if it was no longer the basis of fElon's wealth, but otherwise? Let it die.
There are lots of other good reasons to dislike Tesla as a company besides him, though. For example, they represent an attack on the right to repair, and they make th
Won't touch a 100% EV yet (Score:1)
You get the best of both worlds. Now to find one that is flat tow-able behind an RV.
Heck Biden spent $7.5 Billion (with a capitol B) in federal tax dollars and they only came up with what 8 count them 8 new EV charging stations. I don't think 8 cost $7.5 Billion. Sounds like it was a scam like the "carbon credits". A lot of the money went into