

Vietnam Moves To Block Telegram App (reuters.com) 33
An anonymous reader shares a report: Vietnam's technology ministry has instructed telecommunication service providers to block the messaging app Telegram for not cooperating in combating alleged crimes committed by its users, according to a government document reviewed by Reuters.
The document, dated May 21 and signed by the deputy head of the telecom department at the technology ministry, ordered telecommunication companies to take measures to block Telegram and report on them to the ministry by June 2.
The document, dated May 21 and signed by the deputy head of the telecom department at the technology ministry, ordered telecommunication companies to take measures to block Telegram and report on them to the ministry by June 2.
Good (Score:2, Flamebait)
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Thankfully we have access to the truth here in the democratic West. Have you heard that Palestinian babies have this unfortunate tendency to throw themselves in front of democratic bullets? So sad.
Now, the OTHER GUYS, they shoot kids! Not like us.
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When someone punches you in the face, you do not get to respond by dismembering them.
Re: Good (Score:1)
No, you should step on their toes until they apologize.
Then dismember them.
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Strangely and in spite your informed opinion, the Ukrainian intelligence services don't mind using it for anything from arranging successful defections of ruzzkie mercs to collecting info on ruzzkie troops in the occupied regions, to delivering warnings about ongoing ruzzkie attacks.
Maybe you should tell them they are making a terrible mistake.
Fraud haven (Score:1)
Telegram, in my experience, is one of the worst fraud havens on the planet - and that assessment has been confirmed by independent reports. I don't know what they can do about that without breaking their business model, but in general social media providers like Facebook could do *a lot* more to prevent and discourage all sorts of fraud including advance fee fraud and vicitimization of the elderly on their services. The government could as well, especially since CALEA was passed, which gives them awesome a
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The rest of the world does not exist to take care of you. Stop telling others how to run their business and you will find the world is a better place.
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I don't know what they can do about that without breaking their business model
If a business model inherently depends on non-cooperation, opacity, or immunity from justice and harm becomes systemic as a result then that model is not only broken; it is unacceptable.
If you jurisdiction requires communication software vendors to provide law enforcement with a backdoor and/or encryption decryption capabilities, your jurisdisction is not only broken; it is unacceptable.
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For some reason Caller ID identification of the name of who owns the phone or phone line being called from has almost become a thing of the past, so no one has a good idea whether to answer a call from someone who does not call regularly or is new anymore.
That is exactly why I've long since set my phone to reject unknown calls. They go directly to voicemail, and most of the scam callers won't leave one. I've had the same phone number since 1998, and the volume of bullshit calls is immense. I did finally sign up to incogni.com [incogni.com] and the volume of spam calls and spam snail mail have dropped a lot. (This is not a plug for that service. Frankly, I find it insane that such a thing even has to exist.)
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Telegram, in my experience, is one of the worst fraud havens on the planet
Sorry, the correct answer is Youtube. Most channels I watch complain about it constantly. Youtube does nothing to police it. If someone complains to Youtube about being scammed by a comment, the channel gets in trouble for not removing scam links from it's own comment section. Because it makes more sense to place the burden on the channel, than for Youtube to notice that a brand new account with the name HotBabe0159105821 has posted hundreds of the same comment in the first hour of it's creation.
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um ok, (Score:2)
Re: um ok, (Score:2)
Fish sauce? Sambal oelek? Spring rolls? You bombed them for years? Vietnam? Hello!!
Re: um ok, (Score:2)
OK I will try it. Just my usual Vietnamese places have the sambal.
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Wait I just checked, that's fish sauce...
Canary in the coal mine (Score:3)
If a platform enables systemic crime, refuses legal cooperation, and undermines justice, the state is not only permitted to act, it is ethically obligated to.
Criminals (Score:2)
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Telegram isn't E2E, never has been.
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I have no connection to them but https://jami.net/ [jami.net] seems like what you are asking for.
Peer-to-peer communications with no central servers for governments to block or backdoor.
Strong end-to-end encryption.
Available across all the major platforms.
Supports all the major features of the other options (voice and video, file transfer, group chats, screen sharing, streaming)
Anonymous and private. (no need to share phone numbers or other personal information to use it unlike some encrypted messengers)
Fully open sou
Plain old SMS, with encryption (Score:1)
Surely someone's developed an Android SMS-messaging app (and possibly an iPhone app) that will encrypt the message (if not, hopefully someone with the time will see this and rise to the challenge).
One way to do it would be to use https: over SMS, but with some kind of MIME-like wrapper so everything is sent using just characters that are SMS-compatible.
There are other ways to encrypt data over SMS, such as hiding the encrypted data in a normal-looking conversation using steganography.
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If the encryption is end-to-end, this shouldn't be a problem.
There are ways to do safe end-to-end encryption in the presence of a non-interfering man-in-the-middle. There are ways to detect an interfering man-in-the-middle and abort the transmission.
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