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Putin Says Services Like Microsoft, Zoom Should Be 'Throttled' in Russia (yahoo.com) 93

Posted by msmash from the how-about-that dept.
An anonymous reader shares a report: Russian President Vladimir Putin said on Monday that foreign service providers like Microsoft and Zoom that act against Russian interests should be "throttled." Putin said it was important for Russia to develop domestic software solutions.
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Putin Says Services Like Microsoft, Zoom Should Be 'Throttled' in Russia

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  • We can help them with that (Score:4, Insightful)

    by ostrand ( 2660505 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @01:35PM (#65405071)
    Just throttle them to zero.

  • What is he talking about?

    M$ provide all sorts of services. Is he going to ban Office 365 ?

  • Actually (Score:5, Insightful)

    by mobby_6kl ( 668092 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @01:42PM (#65405101)

    They shouldn't be operating there at all

    • its the internet nothing is stopping them from using the English version. unless the country blocks it.

  • MS (Score:3)

    by gary s ( 5206985 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @01:43PM (#65405107)
    Why is MS operating at all in russia?

    • Because 99.99% of Russians don't have anything to do with Putin and still need an OS to run shit. No one wants Russia to become a disconnected rogue state like North Korea.

      • Re: MS (Score:5, Insightful)

        by dfghjk ( 711126 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @01:59PM (#65405145)

        You are very uninformed. Putin propagandizes his population far more effectively, and for far longer, than Trump.

      • As unfortunate as it may be to deny the common citizen Russia the services they need to "run shit" they are still a contributing factor to the ability of Putin to wage his war on Ukraine. If these services mean Russia can produce food then that means food for the soldiers that have killed innocent civilians in Ukraine. If these services mean Russia is producing fuel for heat and light among the general population then that means fuel for armored vehicles in Ukraine causing death and destruction.

        As much as

      • Re: MS (Score:4, Insightful)

        by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @03:24PM (#65405343) Homepage

        Because 99.99% of Russians don't have anything to do with Putin

        Terrible leaders can win with a majority of support, as we've seen right here in America with our most recent election. Sure, you can't blame all Russians for Putin, but never underestimate the ability of citizens to get behind a nationalist madman.

        • To be exact, terrible leaders can with with a minority of support, as we've seen right here in America with our anachronistic Electoral College nonsense combined with state party gerrymandering where the party is picking the voters.

          But hey, at least corporations can spend unlimited money on politics, so that's gonna fix it, right?

      • How many of the 99.99% voted for him?
        How many are producing weapons?
        How many are part of the military?
        How many provide fuel and infrastructure to the war machine?
        How many are involved in the propaganda?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Tailhook ( 98486 )

        Because 99.99% of Russians don't have anything to do with Putin

        That mentality right there is the problem. 99.99% of Russians need to feel the pain their strong man is causing others, and change their fucking ways. If 99.99% of Russian want to receive the respect they somehow think they're entitled to, they have to stop Putin. If they could do this before we have to fire nukes at them all, That Would Be Great.

        Until then, fuck Russians.

      • A majority of Russians agree with Putin, otherwise he wouldn't still be in power. They might be brainwashed or too scared to act, but no dictator can stay in power if people are against him.

      • Because 99.99% of Russians don't have anything to do with Putin

        Sorry, but the math here doesn't add up. You mean that Putin won his current presidency with 0.01% of the votes given? What an utterly bizarre voting system.

        If you vote for Putin, you support his policies and therefore accept & deserve what you get.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by dvice ( 6309704 )

          > You mean that Putin won his current presidency with 0.01% of the votes given? What an utterly bizarre voting system.

          Here is a video explaining how voting works in Russia in case someone has not yet seen it:
          https://www.youtube.com/shorts... [youtube.com]

    • Their payments still clear.

    • Re:MS (Score:5, Interesting)

      by EvilSS ( 557649 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:32PM (#65405213)

      Why is MS operating at all in russia?

      They are not. They stopped allowing new purchases from Russians back in 2023 and closed their offices there. Existing customers keep their current licenses but from what I understand they can't renew them. So all but 3 year commit 365 licenses should have run out by now. I assume this is people attending calls hosted by people outside Russia since they called out Teams and Zoom specifically and not full office suites.

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by CoachS ( 324092 )

      When I was still at Microsoft quite a few of the services and new offerings were actually geo-restricted so that you couldn't buy them in Russia (at least not easily).

  • "develop domestic software solutions" (Score:5, Funny)

    by RitchCraft ( 6454710 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @01:50PM (#65405127)

    I look forward to using Vladix in the near future, LOL.

  • just so we know the source when Trump says it

    Also, didn't know Microsoft is a service. Maybe if Putin knew, he'd just say that Microsoft needs to be pushed out of a window, or sent to a Salvadoran prison.

  • Unlike here where the managers that keep making everyone attend pointless Zoom meetings should be throttled.

  • Trump raises tariffs to "encourage" manufacturing to move to the US, I can't claim Putin invaded Ukraine to achieve the same end (moving the profits back "home") but he's thinking the same way. Maybe Russia will cooperate with China on this, China was practically forced to develop alternatives during Trump's previous presidency and they are a lot further along.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by znrt ( 2424692 )

      it's been a while that china and russia and several other countries in the world cooperate, both to prosper as equals and to become resilient to the "global rule based order" where the bully can change the rules whenever it pleases. it's the west which is actually getting isolated, and that's been going on for a while now too, long before trump, he's just accelerating the process with his antics.

      btw, his tariffs can't really be useful to encourage manufacturing to move to the us, not even if he didn't chang

      • Re: (Score:1)

        by Anonymous Coward
        LOL Chinese banks wont even deal with Russia because they're afraid of being cut off from the west.
        China isn't openly supporting its "best friend evar" because Europe and the US are too important to piss off too much.
        It's only Russia, Iran and North Korea who are getting isolated.

  • ... Putin is taking on too powerful of an enemy. I suspect that Microsoft services will throttle him first [slashdot.org].

    Those drones he's using against Ukraine might just turn around.

  • I actually agree with something Putin said! (Score:5, Insightful)

    by dskoll ( 99328 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:47PM (#65405253) Homepage

    Let me preface this by saying I despise Putin, his aggression against Ukraine, and everything Putin stands for.

    However, it is a fact that any non-US governments or non-US organizations relying on software produced by US-based companies )and especially services provided by US-based companies) are vulnerable.

    Here is exhibit A [nltimes.nl] on how dangerous it is to rely on US-based companies nowadays. There's a good video [youtube.com] on this topic (unfortunately in Dutch, but it has subtitles and the auto-translation is quite good.)

    Every government and organization outside the US should, as a matter of urgent risk mitigation, minimize its exposure to US-based software and services to the greatest possible extent.

  • must think in russian to use it as well

  • Throttled (Score:5, Informative)

    by dunkelfalke ( 91624 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @02:57PM (#65405285)

    I hage resd his wordw in the original language, being fluent. What he said was literally throttled - as in murdered by asphyxiation, not throttled in the sense of slowed down as they already do with youtube.

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by vbdasc ( 146051 )

      Yes, the word he used is usually translated as "choking someone" or "strangling someone".

  • It's call Linux (Score:3)

    by sit1963nz ( 934837 ) on Monday May 26, 2025 @03:23PM (#65405339)
    Linux + other OSS gets you there

    • Linux source is available, but there was a big purge of contributors with Russian affiliation. So in theory that's more throttled in the sense that they can't upstream convenience patches. For example, if Russia has to make it's own chips for something, network cards, or interfaces, getting the device patches would be more difficult. Is that a problem? Only one of convenience but at the speed of tech today, maybe a bigger one than it would have been years back.

    • Feel free to come and retrain the 10k users for me on a gankier OS and even gankier tools. Go on. We can offer free coffee.

      Linux is many things. Mouth-breather friendly it is not.

  • Demonize random nations and their evil goods in order to encourage profits by your own big businesses? This never actually works, although that never stops people from trying. But, wouldn't you prefer that your own citizens suffer higher prices for the benefit of your own country's moguls?

    • it was always how to worked until the 80s with trade deals that tanked are economy and killed off so many jobs. trumps just trying to force us back on that path.
  • Seriously, why do we still interconnect with those criminals ? All their packets should go down the bit bucket.

    • Dropping all the packets means that Russia doesnâ(TM)t have any contact with the outside world. Which is a boon to despotic regimes because alternative views aka âoethe truthâ gets throttled which only works to help keep whatever autocrat thatâ(TM)s there in power.

      If you really want to kick Russia where it hurts donâ(TM)t buy any of their energy resources and work to bring down the price of what there is.

  • Although this could help with peace. Keep people away from Teams and that humanitarian deed may get you to keep the Krim.

  • At the beginning of the war I hoped that all US software would stop working in Russia. Not just clouds but all Windows devices, Apple, Android could have been bricked at a snap. The war would have ended very fast. (Granted, Russia can make things work again, but it would take time and lots of engineering effort.)

    I was so naive.

    • The US wasn't at war with Russia. And even if it were, the government doesn't run Microsoft, Google, etc.

      I am disappointed that there wasn't a more full throated initial response. Ukraine should have been given whatever it needed on day 0. The intelligence services new that the war was about the start.
  • I think Putin should be throttled back with a tactical nuke if necessary
  • In Russia, we Zoom you!
  • They should be cut off from the entire Internet.
  • But Kim Yong Un said that Internet for northkoreans should be throttled. Who cares what one of dictators said? It does not matter, as their ultimate motive is to keep the chair. They ly and kill. Not just "enemies", their own too. And on massive scale. Such do not deserve publicity, it is free work for them.
  • Government throttle you.

  • What if MicroSoft would this week decide: "ok. As per your request: Throttle it is, no more windows OS for Russa based IPs!" ?

  • It's nice to find something Putin and I agree on - any non-Russian company operating in Russia should be driven into the ground.
  • Rig it with a virus that destroys all Windows computers at once. That'd be more appropriate.

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