

American Airlines Chief Blasts Delta's AI Pricing Plans as 'Inappropriate' (yahoo.com) 20
American Airlines Chief Executive Robert Isom criticized the use of AI in setting air fares during an earnings call, calling the practice "inappropriate" and a "bait and switch" move that could trick travelers. Isom's comments target Delta Air Lines, which is testing AI to help set pricing on about 3% of its network today with plans to expand to 20% by year-end.
Delta maintains it is not using the technology to target customers with individualized offers based on personal information, stating all customers see identical fares across retail channels. US Senators Ruben Gallego, Richard Blumenthal, and Mark Warner have questioned Delta's AI pricing plans, citing data privacy concerns and potential fare increases. Southwest Airlines CEO Bob Jordan said his carrier also has no plans to use AI in revenue management or pricing decisions.
Delta maintains it is not using the technology to target customers with individualized offers based on personal information, stating all customers see identical fares across retail channels. US Senators Ruben Gallego, Richard Blumenthal, and Mark Warner have questioned Delta's AI pricing plans, citing data privacy concerns and potential fare increases. Southwest Airlines CEO Bob Jordan said his carrier also has no plans to use AI in revenue management or pricing decisions.
What is American Airlines really thinking (Score:5, Insightful)
How did they get there before us?
Why didn't we think of this?
How do we do this too?
Re:What is American Airlines really thinking (Score:5, Interesting)
They are hoping that there will be enough of a backlash against it to nix the technology, so they won't have to adopt it.
I hope that happens too, otherwise I'm going to need an AI agent to screw with their AI agent until it gets me the best prices.
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I hope that happens too, otherwise I'm going to need an AI agent to screw with their AI agent until it gets me the best prices.
Per Delta, the AI pricing isn't individualized, meaning all customers buying the same class of service at a given time will see the same price, so I don't think that would get you anything, unless maybe your AI agent gets good at predicting when exactly you should buy your ticket, but that seems unlikely because your agent will always be operating with less information than theirs (e.g., yours doesn't know exactly how many seats are already sold).
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Grandstanding (Score:3)
I mean price discrimination is not new. It isn't as if airlines have no used various signals to set rates before.
Booking early, obviously you have firm plans and you'll pay to keep.
Booking thru a given retail channel probably says some things about it, might mean a higher or lower fare
Nothing really new by adding ML to the mix, other than it might use more signals and perhaps be a little harder to game, for the consumer benefit; but again unless you were super flexibile there isn't much room to game the current system.
I don't get excited by SWA saying 'derp we are not going to use AI for pricing or revenue managment' either. A company should run efficiently. Guy might as well go out there and say 'hey everyone you know who uses the best tools availible? Not us!" yeah that makes me want to give you business..
Machine learning is real and useful, has been real and useful for a long time. GenAI/LLMs are clearly useful, it is also over hyped. Altman would have you believe there isn't a screw his hammer cant drive, but we are also past the point where you can say we're not monkeying with that newfangled untested stuff. You can't just ignore it, if you decide to not use it, you need to know why not (there probably are lots of good reasons / cases), or you are not really leading.
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I don't get excited by SWA saying 'derp we are not going to use AI for pricing or revenue managment' either.
He's lying through his teeth. Revenue management has used ML for a loooong time to set things like price of different fare buckets, number of seats released to different fare buckets, exactly when seats are released to specific fare buckets, how many seats to hold back, how many instrument-supported upgrades to allow (e.g., upgrade certificates), how many complementary upgrades to allow, etc., forget things like schedule and route planning, and so forth. All three of the big US airlines are already using d
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Yes or no, as to the lying it is really just semantics.
If some mid level management team uses a bunch BI tools, and pivot tables and 'what-if' projections to develop various pricing rules, and those get rolled into a 'pricing model' that is used quote fares, is that ML? I would would say it inst.
So "lying thru his teeth" seems a bit strong. That is the point though this isn't new price discrimination has been a feature of airline fares for as long as I have been buying tickets. My point is SWA insisting on
Can we skip the sensational language? (Score:2)
American Airlines Chief Blasts Delta's AI Pricing Plans as 'Inappropriate'
This really reads like a bundle of dynamite going off with a gentle sound of "sorry".
It's called demand and supply. (Score:2)
Other carriers like Lufthansa already do this.
If you are directly connected to Lufthansa through their API, they dynamically adjust their prices based on perceived demand and other inputs. (Pricing in other channels like GDS is a bit more coarse.)
They just didn't slap a big "we are so cool for using AI" self congratulatory sign on it. Thus no one thought anything of it. Adjusting pricing to maximize revenue is what any normal company does.
Source: I work in the travel industry.
/greger
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That's not the same thing. While they vary their price, everyone still sees the same price. If there's a lot of demand, the price goes up for everyone, while if they need to fill seats the price goes down for everyone. The proposed pricing uses AI to work out how much each person is willing to pay and offer them a personal price. So they might offer me a seat for $400 because I'm broke and/or stingy, while charging you $1000 since they think you're well off and will pay whatever they ask.
To some extent it's
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While they vary their price, everyone still sees the same price.
Airlines have a long history of not offering the same price to the same people. In many cases prices vary based on geolocation. Heck on Slashdot we covered Internet Explorer users getting a higher price than Firefox users back in the day.
But the parent is partially right. Fundamentally it is supply and demand. In economic theory the most efficient application of supply and demand (efficient meaning maximum transfer of money) is when perfect information is known by both parties. I.e. the buyer knows how rare
Olden times (Score:2)
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We loved the smoke in the cabin, and we loved watching a singular movie, if it was offered at all.
I would say that it was more "magical" but definitely not "better"
Quality (Score:2)
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Legally changing my name (Score:2)
I have an idea (Score:2)
2026 headline: American Airlines is adopting... (Score:1)
...AI pricing.