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Hyundai's Electric Car Sales Surged 50% Over July 2024 (electrek.co) 103

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"Hyundai sold 79,543 vehicles in the U.S. last month," reports the EV news site Electrek — Hyundai's best July ever, and 15% higher than last year.

"The growth was mainly driven by electrified vehicles, including EVs and hybrids..." Hyundai said that electrified vehicle sales "reached new heights," after climbing 50% compared to July 2024. Electrified vehicles accounted for nearly a third (32%) of Hyundai's retail sales in July 2025, with several popular nameplates setting new all-time monthly sales records, including the new IONIQ 5.

Hyundai IONIQ 5 sales surged 71% in July with 5,818 units sold. Through the first seven months of 2025, Hyundai has now sold nearly 25,000 IONIQ 5 models in the US. Hyundai's electric SUV remains one of the top-selling EVs in the US, boasting a long driving range, ultra-fast charging capabilities, advanced technology, and a stylish design. After upgrading it for the 2025 model year, the IONIQ 5 now features a range of up to 318 miles, an upgraded infotainment system, and a built-in NACS port, allowing you to charge at Tesla Superchargers... Hyundai is also offering a complimentary ChargePoint L2 home EV charger with the purchase or lease of a new 2025 IONIQ 5 or 2026 IONIQ 9.

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  • ICCU problems (Score:4, Informative)

    by Tim the Gecko ( 745081 ) on Sunday August 03, 2025 @08:02PM (#65564346)

    I was thinking about buying an Ioniq 5 myself, but Technology Connections and some other YouTube videos have made that look a bit risky. Short story: you can get stranded and need a tow because of a failure in a very important part of the car's charging system. Hyundai does not seem to have a very good story on fixing the underlying problem. Videos: My Ioniq 5's ICCU failed and Hyundai's doing a terrible job fixing this problem [youtu.be] and Hyundai’s ICCU Nightmare: What Every EV Owner Needs to Know? [youtu.be]

    • That could just be oil company propaganda.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by caseih ( 160668 )

        Technology Connections is most certainly not in the pocket of oil companies!

        • I looked up Technology Connections on Wikipedia, and it certainly does look reputable. It does have this to say: In 2023, Watson published a video on the lack of use of brake lights in some electric vehicles during regenerative braking. He demonstrated that his 2022 Hyundai Ioniq 5 could decelerate sharply to a complete stop without actuating the brake lights. The video went viral, amassing over two million views in a week https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by caseih ( 160668 )

            I've been watching him for years and he's an excellent resource for information on electric vehicles. Very informative.

            Hopefully Hyundai and others have addressed this very real problem. I read once there are safety regulations governing when the brake lights can be lit, but automatic emergency braking systems on all modern cars do put on the brake lights, so I don't see why they can't light them when regeneratively braking.

            Electric Trucker on youtube also recently commented on a video about one truck he

          • I can use engine braking in my manual car to slow it down, without lighting up the brake lights.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by ukoda ( 537183 )
              That is true, and valid, but really for safety the brake lights should come on when you user engine braking. As a legacy technology nobody is going to force that requirement as it simply adds cost for something that is not a huge problem in the real world if drivers are paying attention. For BEV brake lights on regen braking should be mandatory as it adds no real cost, it should just be a software update, so why not do something that marginally improves saftey?

              • While I agree with you that brake lights should come on when decelerating, irrespective of the reason (regeneration, engine braking, etc), my point was that the issue is somewhat overblown.

                • Re: (Score:2)

                  by ukoda ( 537183 )
                  Yes, agree it was over blown, but likewise given how simple it should be to fix it should have been fixed when first raised as an issue.
          • I"m just glad there's no "push" for EV "motorcycles".....

            I love my ICE bike.....and hopefully will till the end of my days.

            Can't wait for summer heat to lift a bit and good Fall riding weather hits.....

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by ukoda ( 537183 )
              BEV motorcycles are lot of fun. If you get a chance try one. The big difference is relationship between weight a performance. On a ICE motorcycle weight is pretty much related to power. The more power the more the weight. For a BEV it is the range/runtime that affects the weight.

              Where this becomes fun is where you can have a lot more power on a bike that is much lighter to throw around. A few years ago I tried a mid size Zero and it felt like the performance of a 400cc with the weight of a 250cc.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by flink ( 18449 )

        I had it happen to me. Fortunately I was within a couple miles of my house and I could limp home at the 18mph that the software limited you to after the ICCU failed. I needed a flatbed tow to the dealer since I had an AWD model. It took six weeks to fix due to the part being on long back order. This was after I had already complied with two separate recalls to address the ICCU issue where all they really did was a software issue to try to under drive the faulty part and prolong it's life instead of just

        • Re:ICCU problems (Score:5, Insightful)

          by ndsurvivor ( 891239 ) on Sunday August 03, 2025 @09:53PM (#65564524)
          I am sure there are many similar stories from ICE owners. Unless it is statistically significant, ... well... I am tired of propaganda. I turn to FOX news for example. They always show one black or brown face, and say that all minorities cause all of the crime. The Oil companies do that with wind and solar. Just anything to make a buck, or to divide Americans.

          • They always show one black or brown face, and say that all minorities cause all of the crime.

            As bad as Fox News may be I have my doubts on that. Is this any worse than competing news networks showing a "White Hispanic" as someone accused of a crime? I guess that I knew there was some racial distinctions among Hispanics but why the need to point it out after showing his photo? I'd expect people would pick up on this racial distinction without being told. Every news source will have biases, it's only a matter on if they own up to them or not. I choose news sources that own up to their bias than

            • Re:ICCU problems (Score:5, Insightful)

              by ndsurvivor ( 891239 ) on Sunday August 03, 2025 @11:05PM (#65564626)
              I believe I listened to Mr. Pickens TED talks, as I listened to most. Yes, he believed in a natural gas transition, as do I (did, it was awhile ago). I believe in an "all of the above" approach to energy, and I also believe in the science of climate change. I "see" a twisted version of "facts" in the dialog about what is cost effective, and I see a corresponding twisting in tax and land laws in politics. If someone is for free markets, fine, keep the government out of tax and land preferences for oil, gas, wind, solar, hydro, and geothermal. Let the best market win. If preventing Climate Change is important then say that energies that emit CO2 is bad by putting a little tax on them. What I am "seeing" right now is that CO2 emitting energy sourcing companies are padding the pockets of politicians, and distorting tax and law policies, and in turn CO2 emitting energy companies are padding the pockets of politicians. They are lying about clean energy.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by necro81 ( 917438 )
              If you are willing to give T. Boone the time of day, may I suggest you read Bill McKibben's latest book: Here Comes the Sun [wwnorton.com]. Although it'd be understandable that someone like McKibben would be utterly depressed at how un-serious most folks are about climate change, he is very optimistic about solar power, because in his view it is a technology that is 1) affordable, and so 2) scalable enough to make a real dent in the problem. The book gets into the present-day economics of solar, which are indeed profita

              • I keep hearing about how solar power isn't great on it's return on investment now but we need only wait for the technology to improve for it to replace fossil fuels. This has been going on for decades and we just keep finding cheaper fossil fuels. The cost of fossil fuels isn't a fixed target, that a an industry and set of technologies that sees improvement in time.

                I know people will point to how there's diminishing returns on gains in fossil fuel advancements, and I can certainly see that. What solar po

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by flink ( 18449 )

            This is not propaganda. These are facts. Go to any IONIQ owners' forum and every 4th or 5th post is someone complaining about their ICCU blowing out. The long wait times to get it replaced when it is such a prevalent problem is indicative that they are prioritizing factory assembly lines over the replacement part supply chain, leaving existing customers with disabled vehicles. The fact that there are 3 (or maybe 4) model years with the exact same problem and "repaired" cars are still failing is indicati

    • Re: (Score:3)

      by chill ( 34294 )

      A tiny number of cars [insideevs.com], but with very vocal responses because gotta drive them clicks!

      Statistically, just 1% of the roughly 200,000 vehicles involved in the recall can have their ICCUs fail, which is 2,000 cars. Out of all the cars that are part of the latest recall for the failing ICCU, 41,137 Hyundai and Genesis EVs have already been fixed by Jan. 22, while another 14,828 Kia EV6s have had the remedy applied. Motor Trend concurred in a recent look at the issue: "Itâ(TM)s a big deal, but not one that i

      • Smaller failure rates than that drive recalls.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by shilly ( 142940 )

          1. Which is why there's been a recall
          2. If there's a recall for the issue, then you don't have to worry about it on a *new purchase*, because the fix will already be in place

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by flink ( 18449 )

            2. If there's a recall for the issue, then you don't have to worry about it on a *new purchase*, because the fix will already be in place

            This is not true. They are still putting the identical part number with no revision into new cars. Model year '25s are failing with the same issue as '23s, and '24s. The replacement can also fail.

            • Re: (Score:2)

              by shilly ( 142940 )

              What's the point of the large-scale recall of cars that have been unaffected, then, if not to put in a revised part? And if they're putting a revised part into cars that are part of the recall, why wouldn't they put the same part into new cars?

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by flink ( 18449 )

                What's the point of the large-scale recall of cars that have been unaffected, then, if not to put in a revised part? And if they're putting a revised part into cars that are part of the recall, why wouldn't they put the same part into new cars?

                They are applying a software patch that tries to baby a marginal part by keeping it's operational parameters in terms of temperature and current well under it's specified design parameters. They are trying to avoid an even more expensive option of proactively replacing everyone's ICCU, which they couldn't do even if they want to as they don't have enough to just replace the one's that have actually failed. Also, their replacements aren't any better than the ones they are swapping out.

                The fact is that deal

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by flink ( 18449 )

        The recall doesn't fix the issue. They don't swap out the potentially defective part. When you go in for the "recall", they examine the ICCU to see if it is damaged. If it is not damaged, all they do is apply a software update to the power management computer to be more aggressive about thermally throttling the ICCU and to up the cooling duty cycle. It's no guarantee that you will not see a failure after complying with the recall, because they leave the potentially defective piece of hardware in your ca

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by chill ( 34294 )

          I'm aware of how they handle the recall. My 2 year anniversary with my Ioniq 6 was last Friday. (No more free EA DCFC for me.)

          My point was the total number of cars that were repaired after an ICCU failure is very small. Lots of manufacturers have recalls, including for parts that can cause a vehicle to stop running. Ford is the worst. Every vehicle lineup has their issues, so just putting it in perspective.

          2 years for me, no ICCU issues. No charging issues. They did replace my interior door panels under war

    • There should be an analogy to Betteridge's Law of Headlines (https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Betteridge's_law_of_headlines), to the effect of "Anything you only see in a video is probably wrong."

    • Yes and no. The problem here isn't one of Hyundai doesn't seem to fixing the problem, the story is that they are slow producing the fixes due to the large number of failures while also supporting in parallel the production of new cars. It's a core component of limited production for a car that is largely currently under supply limitations.

      This could happen to any company. It's not a quality issue with Hyundai that should scare you from buying a car, it is however an example of a poor handling of a public re

  • "electrified" (Score:5, Interesting)

    by markdavis ( 642305 ) on Sunday August 03, 2025 @08:15PM (#65564364)

    >"Hyundai's Electric Car Sales Surged 50% Over July 2024"

    No, Hyundai's "electrified" vehicles sales surged. That includes hybrids.

    I wish people would be more specific. To 99% of people, if you say "electric car/vehicle", the assumption is that the conversation is about BEVs, not hybrids. Most people (me included) would not regard a hybrid as an "electric car."

    • I would consider a plug-in hybrid an electric vehicle since it can be driven on electricity alone. But standard hybrids are entirely powered by fossil fuels. They just use it more efficiently. But that the article isn't clear that it included either one ought to make you question what else in the article is not quite as it seems. It looks to me to be a news release from the Hyundai marketing department.

      • I would consider a plug-in hybrid an electric vehicle since it can be driven on electricity alone.

        Exactly.

        But standard hybrids are entirely powered by fossil fuels.

        Does anyone else remember when not having a place to plug in the hybrid was considered a selling point? I suspect those adverts aren't aging well right now.

        It looks to me to be a news release from the Hyundai marketing department.

        If there is an inclusion of hybrids that can't be plugged in for motive power to the battery then it is marketing. I don't know why anyone would much care on sales of a hybrid vehicle as some indication of the popularity of electric vehicles if there's no simple means of recharging the battery from a NACS port. I'm adding the adoption of NACS

      • Nope, a plugin hybrid is an ICE with the option of electric drive capability. Seems a lot of people do not use the electrical option very often so pollute a lot more. EU data shows PHEVs emit 350% more CO2 than tested values [autonews.com]

        • Nope, a plugin hybrid is an ICE with the option of electric drive capability.

          Or an electric car, with and ICE drive option. Certainly you can argue the gas engine makes it an ICE car, but how do you argue it makes it NOT an electric car when running on electricity. The only difference between it and an electric car is the size of the battery and the electric car doesn't have the ICE backup engine.

          Some vehicles now have an ICE engine that doesn't directly drive the car, it just produces electricity to charge the battery. Is a car driven entirely by electricity an ICE vehicle an not

    • I wish this were better stated. Hybrids offer a lot of advantages that people want. The hybrid F-150 has torque that is up there with diesels, except without all the emissions stuff needed.

      I just wish we had more PHEVs like the Prius Prime, or the Jeep 4xe. I'm lucky enough to have a 50 amp, 240 volt outlet outside which gives me a type 2 charger. Definitely not a Supercharger by any means... but good enough to top off a vehicle overnight. For daily commutes, being able to plug it in and not use gas ar

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by ukoda ( 537183 )
      Worse still some companies, like Suzuki, like to claim their mild hybrids (non-plug in) are electric cars which think is deliberately misleading. Some call mild hybrids "self charging" which I feel is a bold face lie, without gas in the tank they are nowhere.

      Apart from niche applications I don't see a place for hybrids as I see them as the worst of both worlds. I have been attacked for post where specifically use use the term BEV to make it clear I am not including hybrids in my considerations. Appare

      • >"which think is deliberately misleading."

        Yes, I think MANY car companies are doing it intentionally to mislead consumers. Especially when they have no BEVs. Honda did it, Toyota did it, Infiniti, many of them. I know, because I encountered it a lot when doing research.

        And to the people who claim hybrids "are EV's" I would retort with they "are ICE". Because they are just as much ICE as EV.

        >"hybrids as I see them as the worst of both worlds."

        As do I. Although a PHEV (plug-in hybrid) is something

  • Test drove the Ioniq 5 a day ago (Score:3)

    by btroy ( 4122663 ) on Sunday August 03, 2025 @09:14PM (#65564456)
    I understand why the Ioniq 5 is selling well. It was the base model and yet it was fun to drive.
  • 15.5 million cars are sold in the US every year. It may be an increase, but it is still a drop in the bucket. I do not have access to private parking and consequently have no interest in buying a plug-in vehicle until I can cheaply and quickly charge it somewhere else. I do not expect do live that long.

    • 15.5 million cars are sold in the US every year. It may be an increase, but it is still a drop in the bucket. I do not have access to private parking and consequently have no interest in buying a plug-in vehicle until I can cheaply and quickly charge it somewhere else. I do not expect do live that long.

      A great many things needs to happen for the plug-in EV to be considered the default option for every driver in the USA. I have doubts a healthy infant born yesterday will live long enough to see that day.

      We will need a large expansion of electricity production. Presumably electricity production based on something other than fossil fuels or we are just shuffling the problems around than gaining ground on air pollution, energy independence, and CO2 emission reductions. We've certainly seen large gains in w

      • All is that is needed for mass adoption of electric cars in the USA, is to open the market to China, with no tariffs. If America is so great, let them in. I was born in Minnesota, and am an American, but I do not agree with these Tariffs, and Musk, and Trump. So... Open up the markets. Let the free markets decide what is best for consumers.

        • All is that is needed for mass adoption of electric cars in the USA, is to open the market to China, with no tariffs. If America is so great, let them in. I was born in Minnesota, and am an American, but I do not agree with these Tariffs, and Musk, and Trump. So... Open up the markets. Let the free markets decide what is best for consumers.

          Sorry, but FUCK CHINA.

          They are our enemy and giving them yet another foothold in our economy and infrastructure is just a BAD idea all around.

    • Re:15.5 million cars (Score:4, Informative)

      by SuiteSisterMary ( 123932 ) <slebrun@nospaM.gmail.com> on Monday August 04, 2025 @09:33AM (#65565066) Journal

      We're already there. The average city commuter can easily just do a single fast charge once a week, and unlike a gas car, you can just find a charger that's near something else you'd be doing anyway, like at a grocery store, mall, or down town, and your total 'charging time,' defined as 'the amount of time you, personally, have to devote to the process once you roll up to the dispenser' is 'thirty seconds to plug the car in and tap your payment card' and 'thirty seconds to unplug the car and close the charging port.'

      The twenty minutes the *car* spends charging is not time *you* are spending charging. You're doing something else while the car charges. Pumping gas might 'only' take five minutes instead of twenty, but that's five minutes that *you* personally are spending.

      • We're already there. The average city commuter can easily just do a single fast charge once a week, and unlike a gas car, you can just find a charger that's near something else you'd be doing anyway, like at a grocery store, mall, or down town, and your total 'charging time,' defined as 'the amount of time you, personally, have to devote to the process once you roll up to the dispenser' is 'thirty seconds to plug the car in and tap your payment card' and 'thirty seconds to unplug the car and close the charg

        • I agree. There are a few places that have chargers for particular brands (i.e., Tesla), but only a few and not conveniently placed. Also, the cost of charging is much higher than if you are able to charge at home. I do not think that using exclusively commercial chargers would be economic even if they were available and convenient, which they are not.

        • Re: (Score:2)

          by ukoda ( 537183 )
          The nearest supermarket to me, in rural New Zealand, is in Levin. It has a 50kW charger that has been there for years. If I want to go south instead of north there is also a 50kW charger at the Otaki super market. If I want to go to the nearest malls there is Tesla supercharger at the nearest mall north in Palmerston North or a Tesla supercharger at the nearest mall south at Coastlands in Paraparaumu. If I want to go to nearby cities for a day trip there are public car parks with chargers. Also there a

          • Don't worry the USA will catch up with the rest of the world one day.

            I"m guessing that by then I'll be old enough to where my driving days will be behind me....

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by flink ( 18449 )

        If you need to rely exclusively on fast charging, you should NOT buy an EV. EVs are great, but the cost and convenience proposition flies out the window if you don't have reliable access to L2 charging at or near retail residential rates. That doesn't have to be a personal L2 charger in a detached single family – it could be in an apartment complex, via your work, while you are grocery shopping, a municipal parking lot: whatever.

      • Pumping gas might 'only' take five minutes instead of twenty, but that's five minutes that *you* personally are spending.

        That's time I spend washing the windows, checking my phone for calls I missed while driving, taking a walk around my vehicle to check for low tires or damage from hitting a bird (typically part of the washing windows), stretching my back and kneading knots from my muscles, or so much other relatively trivial but necessary tasks on a trip. Are these things somehow avoidable by driving a BEV instead? Not likely, but now you are forced by the slow charging rate of the BEV to spend 20 minutes at this than 5 m

  • That Mercedes just started testing looks wild. https://electrek.co/2025/07/24... [electrek.co] With that range level, I can imagine that tech licensed across the board easily eliminating range anxiety for most and leading to wide adoption. Not that I am that big a Mercedes fan. But that solid state tech they have worked out is mighty impressive.

  • Unlike Tesla, the greatest stock fraud in human history.

    • > Unlike Tesla, the greatest stock fraud in human history.

      Yea when a Tesla car is sold the dollars aren't as valuable as Hyundai /s Seriously, Musk became a target of the Washington blob when he bought Xitter. Similarly to Jeff Bezos, he should stick to super yachts and trophy wives and leave politics to the professionals.

  • The $7500 tax credit implies a discount in the ballpark of 15% on a vehicle but expires at the end of the month. I'd expect that this is bringing forward a lot of sales that would happen for the rest of the year to take advantage before it goes away.

    To be a real sense of the trend of sales, you'd have to average the before-tax-expiration and after-tax-expiration months to see what's up. Otherwise you're just measuring noise.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by ukoda ( 537183 )
      Yea, it will cause misleading numbers for a while. When I brought my BEV 5 years ago there was no subsidies. I guess the local government heard I had made my purchase and introduced subsidies shortly after my purchase. Sales where growing steady before that but did uptick when subsidies appeared. About 2 years ago a right wing party got into power, removed all subsidies and added new taxes to EVs. There was a surge in sales before that came into effect and large drop afterwards. Since then BEV sales h

  • That’s the more important figure for Hyundai. It launched in 2021. It puts it about 3 to 10x below a big-selling global crossover such as the Tucson or CRV, so a fair way to go yet. It will now be a profit centre, and of course sales growth is still trending strongly upwards. I reckon Hyundai will be pleased with its progress thus far

  • Haha. They couldn't buy any more Teslas due to political correctness and fear of mobs.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by 0xG ( 712423 )

      Haha. They couldn't buy any more Teslas due to political correctness and fear of mobs.

      You forgot to include "woke" amd "minorities" in your post.

  • Probably because their ICE engines keep grenading themselves to the point where Hyundai has to offer huge replacement warranties on them.

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