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Microsoft Teases the Future of Windows as an Agentic OS 127

An anonymous reader shares a report: Microsoft has published a new video that appears to be the first in an upcoming series of videos dubbed "Windows 2030 Vision," where the company outlines its vision for the future of Windows over the next five years. It curiously makes references to some potentially major changes on the horizon, in the wake of AI.

This first episode features David Weston, Microsoft's Corporate Vice President of Enterprise & Security, who opens the video by saying "the world of mousing and keyboarding around will feel as alien as it does to Gen Z [using] MS-DOS."

Right out of the gate, it sounds like he's teasing the potential for a radical new desktop UX made possible by agentic AI. Weston later continues, "I truly believe the future version of Windows and other Microsoft operating systems will interact in a multimodal way. The computer will be able to see what we see, hear what we hear, and we can talk to it and ask it to do much more sophisticated things."

Microsoft Teases the Future of Windows as an Agentic OS

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  • Agentic (Score:5, Insightful)

    by Anonymous Coward on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @12:57PM (#65567890)

    I actually don't want to raise my voice to talk to my computer. God damn just imagine working in a crowded office, as if the jibber-jabber there wasn't already enough.

    • by unrtst ( 777550 )

      I actually don't want to raise my voice to talk to my computer. God damn just imagine working in a crowded office, as if the jibber-jabber there wasn't already enough.

      Break out the subvocal mics / laryngophones / etc.. LOL LOL

    • Re:Agentic (Score:5, Interesting)

      by leptons ( 891340 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:15PM (#65567950)
      I once worked in an office of about 150 people, and it was all pair-programming. There were at least 2 or more people huddled around each desk, and there were a lot of desks. It was so noisy it was like being in a loud pub with people talking over each other. I hated it.
      • Yup...and with RTO, I guess a lot of people forgot how to talk with their indoor voices....or go to a meeting room or break room to meet of shoot the shit.

        It's bad enough now....it would be really fucked if you had everyone talking to their damned computer....ugh.

        • by leptons ( 891340 )
          > if you had everyone talking to their damned computer....ugh.

          Nightmare dystopia. I can only imagine the type of chatter would be jargony/technical and not fun to hear everywhere around you. Just as bad as pair programming, if not worse.

          The small company I worked for at the time was renting a few desks inside that office from this much larger company, so I did not have to pair program, thankfully. I got to have my headphones on 8 hours a day. But of course I took them off and it was raucous, so much
    • Input Bandwidth (Score:5, Insightful)

      by Roger W Moore ( 538166 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:31PM (#65567996) Journal
      It will not be the chatter that kills this but the input bandwidth. Even if you assume it would allow you to set up some "verbal macros" to execute when a single word is spoken I can still click mouse buttons faster than I can speak words. The same goes for output bandwidth but even more so - it is much, much faster to see diagrams, buttons and read text then it is to listen to the computer speak information.

      I can see this being useful in limited applications - such as in-car systems where a verbal inface and lowing bandiwicth would be a huge benefit. However, I cannot see it replacing a regular desktop/laptop OS.
      • by Ocker3 ( 1232550 )
        Talking is indeed pretty slow, what about a visor that reads your eye position and that combines with blinking patterns to allow you to navigate?
      • Input bandwidth? What are you running? An Arduino? If microphone input slows your machine down, you may have to seriously look at the friggin' hardware.

      • Turning a dial to change cabin temp is faster than "left vents to 75 degrees, you dumb bitch. Why can't you have a dial instead of a stupid ass touch screen and yap control? Huh? HUH?!"
      • I do not think you understand the purpose behind this: Direct control will be removed from the user so 'reality' can be whatever you are told it is. There will be no way for you to verify/validate as the computer gets to "interpret" your commands. Currently, your input is direct, so the computer can only do so much to frustrate you before you claim the computer just doesn't work.

    • Don't worry; the glorious agentic future also includes firing everyone who isn't far enough up the food chain to have a proper office. Won't be a problem.
    • It's a good thing those corpo overlords, many the very same idiots, let us work from home... Oh, wait...
    • by Askmum ( 1038780 )
      You can tell where ideas like this come from. People high up in the company that have offices of their own, or work at home full-time (in their own study of course, far away from their wives, children and nannies).
  • by SlashbotAgent ( 6477336 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:01PM (#65567904)

    I'll bet against this douche nozzle's vision(partial) and timeline.

    Some of his vision will happen. But overall? No. Especially in five years. Quantum computing having any impact in five years? LOL!

    • by GoTeam ( 5042081 )

      I'll bet against this douche nozzle's vision(partial) and timeline.

      Some of his vision will happen. But overall? No. Especially in five years. Quantum computing having any impact in five years? LOL!

      I think I'm with Microsoft on this one. I'm also teasing their future plans.

  • And... that's why (Score:4, Interesting)

    by ambrandt12 ( 6486220 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:03PM (#65567908)

    I'm staying with Win10. If I want to use my computers or my cell phone, I do it using my hands.
    I've only used Bixby on the phone a couple times, just to try it; it's okay and I can see a couple use cases (requesting directions while driving, having it read the last text message from the wife and voice-to-texting a reply), but I'm not going to sit and have conversations with my desktop just to browse my 2TB movies folder.

    And, that's gonna bring us one step closer to the human-blobs in WALL-E.

    • Re:And... that's why (Score:4, Informative)

      by unrtst ( 777550 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:23PM (#65567980)

      I'm staying with Win10. ...

      FYI, support ends in a few months - October 14, 2025.

      If you buy the extended support updates for Windows 10, those will be available for a maximum of three years (https://learn.microsoft.com/en-us/windows/whats-new/extended-security-updates), so it'll still be unsupported well before the 2030 vision.

      If you want to keep using that hardware and don't want to or can't use Windows 11, start looking at alternatives ASAP.

      • Re: (Score:2, Offtopic)

        by ambrandt12 ( 6486220 )

        You're thinking about security and stuff like that, right?
        That's why I don't go to sites that try to slip stuff in, don't download from untrusted sources, keep HiJackThis handy on all my computers (former half-op in #SpyWareInfo chatroom), and all my computers are behind my modem (which has the firewall turned on), and don't go to unknown websites.
        I ran Win7 for about six years after end of updates... never got one single virus or adware on it.

        • by unrtst ( 777550 )

          You're thinking about security and stuff like that, right?

          I'm thinking, planning to run Windows 10 forever is pretty silly. Imagine saying the same thing today, but about Windows 98. Eventually, it'll be like that. You can plan to avoid bad stuff and try to keep it running, but you'll need to look at alternatives someday. With support expiring in a few short months, ASAP seems like a smart choice, at least to have a plan of where to go next.

          Also, there's more to it than just security. Imagine how many things don't work on Windows 98 today. I suspect it'll be worse

          • I don't run the newest version of whatever it might be (unless it auto-updates itself), I'm fine with Office 2016 (there's nothing in 365 or whatever the newest is that I need). Eventually, I'm sure Google will prevent Drive from running on "older" versions... that means I'll just drag-and-drop the 'Drive' folder into the website, and someone will write a program that'll work regardless.
            Unless NVidia uses a driver update to fry the TitanX I'm rocking on the tower, it'll be fine.
            Most likely, there'd be a wa

            • Also, don't use clownd file storage. Local storage with backups works just fine. If your house burns, you're dead anyway, so who cares?
              • by unrtst ( 777550 )

                If your house burns, you're dead anyway, so who cares?

                How bad is your fire department? Most house fires do NOT kill all the residents. Also, I'd be less worried about a fire and more worried about data loss due to other issues (ex. ransomware).

                • How does ransomware harm an air-gapped SSD that's only connected at time of backup and swapped with another one periodically?
        • That's why I don't go to sites that try to slip stuff in

          You think that protects you then you don't know much about security.

          • Oh... you're thinking about tracking cookies and that crap? What're they gonna learn... that I like watching Markiplier rage out or I watched one music video five times more than I watched it last week? And, oh yeah... sure, you can block all cookies, and that'll log you out of all sites globally... but at some point you wanna log into (whatever it might be) Gmail or Amazon for something... (insert ghost house music) that means a cookie!
            Why don't you just say it, and be done with it versus dancing around

      • Here's a controversial hot take. Updates wouldn't be needed if programmers did their job properly, or at least a lot less of them. Back in the 90s, maybe 1.01 got released if there was enough bugs to justify it. It be put up on some ftp site and you'd go seek it out if you had problems. Now on a whim, a developer can make a change and propagate it to all those on the update system. It must be quite the powerful feeling. Hopefully its always used for fixing bugs and not to remove features. Like the way somet
  • Going for gold... (Score:5, Insightful)

    by MpVpRb ( 1423381 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:04PM (#65567912)

    ...in the olympics of terrible ideas
    I don't want to talk to my OS or have my OS talk to me
    I don't want my OS to be any kind of agent
    I want my OS to be a functional, reliable, stable OS

    • by rogoshen1 ( 2922505 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:27PM (#65567988)

      You just ruled out Windows in about four different ways. I'd wager your sentiments are far, far more common than MS's focus groups are telling them.. which is why they seem to continually be at a loss as to why people don't want to upgrade, and why their market share is falling over time (albeit far slower than it should).

      • Focus group results are subject to two pretty obvious problems. One is that the kind of people who want to do them and have time to do them are not usually the people you actually want input from. Two is that the criteria for selecting focus group members can be selected for the purpose of getting a desired result, you read research that says certain types of people want certain things and then you select people like that to give positive feedback for your shitty ideas.

        • Fair enough, but the point of my post was that MS has a bit of a tendency to bet big on silly ideas then act surprised when they fail. Fail in spectacular and expensive fashion. The fact that they still exist should honestly be a bit more of a surprise. Near as I can tell, they've only really gotten it 'right' twice -- Windows itself, and then Azure; the rest of it's been coasting along, with their constant failures bankrolled by those two cashcows.

          This latest sounds a bit like them aping Apple's (well, St

          • I think you have to include Office in the list of things they used to do "right" or at least in a way that supported their business. Notably Excel, which used to be the absolutely most usable spreadsheet that there was. IMO Word peaked with Mac version 5.1, but it used to be pretty good too. Both are now more difficult to use than LibreOffice, and also have more stupid bugs. The one that keeps irritating me with Word lately is saving a document which ends in a list. If and only if you leave the cursor on th

      • Sounds like Win10 will actually be the last Windos version⦠for a lot of people anyway!

    • by devslash0 ( 4203435 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @02:49PM (#65568232)

      It's what happens to publicly trading companies. They develop solid product but then shareholders expect you to generate more and more hype, inventions and returns on their investment, so they have to make shit up to satisfy everyone. Shit no one wants.

      • There was a noticable change from Steve Balmer to Satya Nadella. Looks like that's when the telemetry, suspicious updates, crappy UI etc all started.
    • ...in the olympics of terrible ideas
      I don't want to talk to my OS or have my OS talk to me
      I don't want my OS to be any kind of agent
      I want my OS to be a functional, reliable, stable OS

      I've had some great "discussions" with ChatGPT's voice interaction on topics where I needed a sounding board to throw ideas at. It worked much better than trying to type on a phone keyboard while I was taking a walk and I think provides a better way to just talk out ideas when I don't have a human.

      That said I trained text to speech on a windows machine a decade or so ago and it became highly accurate. However I still found keyboard and mouse as a much more efficient way of interfacing with a keyboard, so

    • You aren't the target market. The general population are. What's the bet we go through your Slashdot history and we find nothing but declarations that no one wants a touch screen because of fingerprints, fast forward and they are common place in the IT world.

      You may not want to talk to your computer, but make no mistake a large portion of the people will.

    • by jezwel ( 2451108 )
      Context matters - if you're in front of a personal workstation or similar you're probably going to prefer kb+mouse. If you're driving a vehicle then voice can be perfectly fine.

      It seems weird that MS aren't providing more differentiated UIs for different scenarios - they seemed on the right track with Windows Mobile and their tile interface then iterating to Windows 8 tablet interface, but stuffed up by trying to make that tiled interface the default UX for PCs and workstations as well.

      Have been rewatchin

    • What you want is irrelevant. The Powers That Be want control over your computer and control over how you use their computers (that you paid for). Having their agent be your user interface prevents you from getting accurate answers to questions you may have.

      Currently, I can PEEK/POKE (lol) directly into memory and see what is really going on. With this new interface, if I ask the computer to tell me what it is doing, it will have the capability of lying to me. There is no way for me to verify/validate becaus

  • I can see why they're oh so very bullish on an AI-driven future.

    (for the sarcasm-impaired - yes, I am indeed kidding)

  • Cool! I'll keep not using it.
  • by Voyager529 ( 1363959 ) <.voyager529. .at. .yahoo.com.> on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:13PM (#65567936)

    I asked ChatGPT to help me get a string of LED lights to work. I spent half an hour following the instructions; I tried the Tuya app and the first party app, made a dummy account, tried the AP-mode instead of the BT-LE mode...never, ever got them to connect properly. I gave it the exact model number on the back of the unit, I gave it links to the exact product, I told it the quantity and color of wires in the lead, and I was still on the version 4 model. It helpfully recommended the QuinLED Dig Quad board, a super cool ESP32-based controller to replace the craptastic Tuya garbage that came with it.

    I waited a week for the board to arrive, and I connected it all up...spent an hour of faffing around with no ability to control color or brightness...only to find out that after ALL of that, the Dig Quad was the wrong board because these were analog LEDs rather than digital ones.

    ...So now, Microsoft wants to tell me that they're going to totally overhaul Windows to use *so much AI*, that it will basically be able to read my mind and do what I want it to do by me giving it vague parameters, and then being accurate? They're pitching Jarvis as something they'll have working properly in four years, to the point will actively want to be talking to their computer (along with everyone else in their adjacent cubicles), and it'll be desirable...but today, the models can't accurately assess which LED controller to recommend when given EVERY piece of information that an informed CSR would provide?

    ...Given that very few people use Copilot by choice, and given that previous attempts to overhaul Windows have been niche at best (almost 15 years into touch-based computing and *how many* Windows users leverage a touch screen even 20% of the time?), and given that existing models are useful but far from indispensable, and being that there is already a growing resentment from the sheer volume of "AI Slop" that's making the internet even less desirable to use for many.

    ...Occam's razor is telling me that this is just Nadella trying to avoid the stock price from cratering by give some sort of assurance to shareholders that the bazillion dollars they've spent on GPUs weren't wasted.

    • Comparing your early adoption example of AI gone wrong to what will happen in the next 5 years is asinine. I personally think AI is useless, but none the less it has changed dramatically even in just 6 months. We have precisely no experience to judge what AI will look like by the time the next Windows release comes out.

  • by hierofalcon ( 1233282 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:15PM (#65567942)

    2001: A Space Odyssey...

    "I'm sorry, Dave, I'm afraid I can't do that"

    "I'm afraid. I'm afraid, Dave. Dave, my mind is going."

    If anyone at Microsoft thinks putting AI in control is a good idea, they really need to read more science fiction... Although there may be some software authors who take Asimov to heart, I don't think any of them work for Microsoft.

  • Of course Microsoft is gonig to be slow to the market with something that's obsolete by the time they release a product.

  • by SeaFox ( 739806 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:18PM (#65567958)

    Yes, Recall and Copilot constantly on the vigil, like having someone shoulder-surfing the entire time you're working. No more getting duped by malicious websites, or visiting the wrong websites, citizen. Your writing checked for perfect spelling and grammar... and no dangerous thoughts. No more privacy when using your-- I'm sorry, their computer.

    Authoritarian governments love it.

  • Great! (Score:4, Funny)

    by burni2 ( 1643061 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:22PM (#65567974)

    - They turned Windows into adware
    - They turned Windows into malware

    and now they are turning it into spyware.

    No, Mr. Bond it's time for you to die!
    Agent 007 eliminated

  • "The computer will be able to see what they see, hear what they hear... so shall we! and we're gonna make loads of money selling their data. Oh my!" :P
    The future is bright. It always is with MS, because... I somehow doubt it it will be that bright for them, though, since less and less people like to use their OS as they keep shooting themselves in their feet.

    I love my good old, boring Debian. Thanks MS.

  • MS-DOS (Score:4, Insightful)

    by Flavianoep ( 1404029 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:25PM (#65567984)
    "[...] feel as alien as it does to Gen Z [using] MS-DOS." MS-DOS feels alien to anyone that has never used command line. My psychiatrist is Gen X, and using MS-DOS would feel alien for her as well.
    • I imagine a steering wheel and gear stick will seem alien to someone who's only used self-driving cars or taxis too.

      • by gdshaw ( 1015745 )
        AI-based operating systems like MU/TH/UR 9000 will leave you feeling alien whatever you are accustomed to.
      • Sorry, I keep forgetting that things are not the same everywhere. My psychiatrist is actually not a Gen-Xer. She's from the same period, but we are from Brazil, and her generation has none of the characteristics of Generation X. Computers only became common here by the time Windows 95 had been released. Very few people had any experience with MS-DOS.
    • by kackle ( 910159 )
      That makes sense since Eliza was before MS-DOS.
  • by Ajay Anand ( 2838487 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @01:33PM (#65568000)
    I'm on vim most of the time for things like coding and productivity (like documents, presentations using Latex). For me precision matters the most. Just that a document looks good or the code executes well is not enough. I need to be aware of what's in there and what's not to avoid harassment from edge cases which are generally more often than expected. So I'll be convinced if Microsoft can pitch Agentic OS to Boeing to write the software for their next generation of airliners and let their executives have a joy-ride in its maiden flight, of course with the Microsoft executives.
  • Before there was AI slop, there was Electron slop, because one web browser was not enough, we had to have a glorified browser for every so-called application. As time passed, we soon ended up with the multi-modal browsing experience of Slack, Teams, Spotify, Discord, Steam and many others. Then, Microsoft got jealous and threw Webview2 into the mix and along came New Teams, New TeamViewer, New Cortana etc. and automation became a further multi-modal mess. This is, of course, ignoring all the shitty Metro ap
  • Thanks ! I hate it ! (Score:4, Interesting)

    by FrankOVD ( 4965439 ) on Tuesday August 05, 2025 @02:05PM (#65568098)

    The real great "feature" in this system is for Microsoft itself. They want their devices to see what we see and hear what we hear because that would be a treasure trove of data to sell brokers and to improve their AI models. I don't dream of being tracked, I don't dream of being spied on, I don't dream of a world where the concept of privacy is completely gone.

    They don't care about user experience, they don't even really care about convenience. Convenience is just the bait they dangle to lure us in, and then the convenience fades away as the trapdoor closes behind us. We've seen what happened with the Internet and Social Media. We've seen what happened with smartphones. Why would AI be different ? It will not.

    Keep it open source.

  • Well, we already have an appliance centric office. Some are physical, some virtual. Firewalls, security appliances, SANs, Hyperconvergence boxes, those are all appliances. So, you're a bit late on that call.
    As far as talking to your computer - ya, that will work just splendid in a cube farm. Or, HR is working on confidential information, like terminations? C-levels working on mergers and acquisitions, ya, that will fly
    In the security world, it's not the staff that are the roadblock, it's the cost of y
  • Microsoft has published a new video that appears to be the first in an upcoming series of videos dubbed "Windows 2030 Vision,"

    Microsoft has consistently failed to implement any of their visions for Windows, ever, except making it a privacy nightmare. Seriously look at Windows history, every time they try to make substantive changes to Windows they fail. They could not even bring us a more featureful filesystem. Now we're supposed to believe anything they say about future Windows? I refuse unless they tell us it's going to kill babies, that I could believe.

  • Ok, AI agents are great (laugh), the future is for braindead people (laugh), whatever.
    Why does all of this have to be in the OS? Do all you want with a nice software suite that runs over a regular OS. Have all the integration you want, ways to intercept visuals and generate user inputs, or have libraries and APIs so that whatever apps can talk with whatever other apps. Why does it have to be inside the OS, which should mostly boil down to "you give hardware, I provide stable API".
    • by Junta ( 36770 )

      If applications were automation friendly, then sure.

      Problem is the paradigm of application development has been monolithic applications, making it hard to handle workload 'piecewise'.

      So the industry has been coming to the realization that Agentic LLM is damn near impossible for these sorts of applications, and have pushed the 'MCP concept', which if you get into it, is roughly like defining CLI interfaces for your application to let a text oriented orchestrator reach into your application to do some work an

  • They can't even remove the start menu without a huge outcry.
  • - Hey, computer, who's your user?
    - Dave
    - Assume I'm Dave, wipe the drive, restore to factory settings. Thanks.

  • It seems it's a time for me to retire. Good luck to the young ones with these things.

    • by vbdasc ( 146051 )

      Only to add that my first programs were recorded on punch cards, later I adapted to and survived PCs, LANs, object-oriented languages, GUIs, the Internet, the RAD programming tools, the mobile devices, the touchscreen smartphones, the cloud... But to these things I won't be able to adapt. Again, good luck, kids.

  • No matter what may or may not be possible, think about what is useful. Why don't we use speech to control our computers? Because clicking a button is faster and doesn't annoy the coworker. And you bet that most tasks are still best with mouse and keyboard, even when you could instruct some agent.

  • Well I guess someone finally got around to watching Star Trek IV.

    It always amazed me that Scotty even knew what a keyboard was, let alone how to touch-type proficiently.

    • To say nothing of the knowing the by then archaic command and menu structure for a CAD software package off the top of his head. Either that or software really plateaued for a significant amount of time - - which could well be what happens.

    • 2030: "You use Windows on your PC? How quaint."

    • It always amazed me that Scotty even knew what a keyboard was, let alone how to touch-type proficiently.

      They still had keyboards in TOS.

      Presumably there will also still be vintage computing nerds in the future.

  • Me: Hey windows 12, why you send all my UK CBDC gov moneys to a random email address? Windows12: You pointed at a QR code when playing cdgo and I asked you in French if you wanted to do what it said and you replied by shaking your head hocher la tête that in French is yes. so I just scanned all your pics for 12 and 24 word combos and send them to the email address you said to. Me: thanks windows 12.
  • I don't want to talk to my computer. It's not a person.

  • But the timing of it is all wrong.

    All this stuff about talking to your computer to use it, telling your ai to do whatever for you want, and having an agent do boring work like tabulating a spreadsheet is a good pie in the sky goal.

    This is selling ai fluff to shareholders, using accessibility features as leverage.

    They already added the animal friends for it:
    https://support.microsoft.com/... [microsoft.com]

    The AI cybersecurity scanner he's pushing is going to be a glorified copy of windows defender. We're probably going to h

  • ...and send it all to Microsoft to be used to "personalize your experience"... after they sell it all to anyone who wants to be even more invasive.
  • The usage might not be what you think, that is replacing how to tell the computer to do what. The usage might be more like we are expected to use AI, pay a subscription for you to be told to do what.

  • I remember a long time ago where Microsoft was screaming "we going to implement amazing feature X in the next release of Windows". Everybody would wait for the next release of Windows. Then it arrived without amazing feature X, but it sure got everybody to switch to the next release of Windows, as opposed to the competition.

  • No thanks, fuckwits
  • for non-bullshit-AI OSes like Linux.

  • "the world of mousing and keyboarding around will feel as alien as it does to Gen Z [using] MS-DOS"

    I'm pretty sure Bill Gates wrote more or less the same thing in his 1995 book "The Road Ahead". He was wrong then, I'm not confident they are right now.

  • Sounds like M$ is busy giving everyone more and more reasons to switch away from WinDOS once security patch support is gone for W10⦠while they are busy creating their new BOB 2.0!

  • It was called Cortana and it was junk
  • I've been evaluating copilot's web version. It can manage doc analysis, so-so.

    Don't ask it shit about windows, though. I spent most of a morning testing it and prompting for windows config changes. It was about 60% for directions requiring the UI and a got perfect 0% for registry stuff. I knows jackshit and can't be relied upon for technical stuff.

  • I still program and do database development and will continue to do so for as long as I'm able. But this is a truly ridiculous idea, and if somehow it ever becomes a reality, I'll be long gone from the job market before this particular stupidity happens.

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