Trump, Apple To Announce New $100 Billion Commitment To Manufacturing in US (cbsnews.com) 123
President Trump and Apple are expected to announce a new $100 billion commitment by Apple to boost manufacturing in the U.S. CBS News: The new investment would increase Apple's commitment to U.S. manufacturing to $600 billion over the next four years, according to a White House official. And it's expected to include a new "American Manufacturing Program" focused on bringing more of Apple's supply chain and advanced manufacturing to the U.S.
[...] In May, the president threatened to impose a 25% tariff on iPhones made outside the U.S., writing on Truth Social that he told Cook that he expects that iPhones that will be sold in the U.S. "will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else."
[...] In May, the president threatened to impose a 25% tariff on iPhones made outside the U.S., writing on Truth Social that he told Cook that he expects that iPhones that will be sold in the U.S. "will be manufactured and built in the United States, not India, or anyplace else."
Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now? (Score:3, Insightful)
Was Trump it's even worse, this is just something the companies do to play his ass. He gets a little bit of press and they get him off his back so he doesn't shake them down for bribes like he keeps doing with newspapers.
Also the fact that the United States president has been shaking down newspapers for bribes is something we don't talk about enough. Although that Epstein stuff is pretty important too. I mean I would like more people to know that the president is also a pedophile.
And the crazy thing is everything I wrote above is absolutely true and easily verifiable using reliable sources but I sound like a troll because of how crazy we've gotten
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I mean foxconn showed us how this works ages ago.
Was Trump it's even worse, this is just something the companies do to play his ass. He gets a little bit of press and they get him off his back so he doesn't shake them down for bribes like he keeps doing with newspapers.
Also the fact that the United States president has been shaking down newspapers for bribes is something we don't talk about enough. Although that Epstein stuff is pretty important too. I mean I would like more people to know that the president is also a pedophile.
And the crazy thing is everything I wrote above is absolutely true and easily verifiable using reliable sources but I sound like a troll because of how crazy we've gotten
So now I feel I have to requote you against the censor trolls with mod points even though I disagree more than I agree? Well, I do agree the YOB is getting played, but the Yuge Orange Buffoon will never figure that out. (And even let the vacuous Subject stand?)
But I'll focus a partial response on the Epstein part because I think it's so funny. First, the Dems are caught in a paradox involving "nonpartisan justice" while the fake Republicans have it much simpler: "If it gives us more power, then JUST DO IT!"
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:5, Insightful)
Why didn't Biden release the Epstein files during his presidency?
Because when those finally get released, its going prove to American's that both parties are beyond the highest levels of corruption. It will unite Americans rather than dividing them. Releasing the Epstein files is a win for the people, and will be devastating to both parties. That's why neither party has released them when they had the chance.
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>when
I remember what it was like to be naïve and hopeful.
Reality: They get the JFK assassination treatment, and Maxwell kills herself by multiple stab wounds, hanging, and then jumping out of a 10 story building.
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:5, Informative)
Mike Johnson ended the house session early just so republicans wouldn't have to vote on releasing the files. https://www.nytimes.com/2025/0... [nytimes.com]
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:5, Insightful)
It will unite Americans rather than dividing them.
It will unite Americans in a collective shrug.
The electorate sent the guy who orchestrated an insurrection back to The White House. Do you honestly think "may have hooked up with a 14-year-old" is even going to register with these folks? Hell, a few stories back there's that one about a family using an AI avatar of their dead kid to raise awareness about school shootings, because for some truly fucked up reason, just having your kid die in a school shooting wasn't awareness-raising enough.
Mark my words, the American public only cares about the Epstein files because they're a cliffhanger. After we know how the story ends, we'll move right on to the next thing to be outraged about for as long as the news cycle is willing to milk it.
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This was a result of the Big Lie 1.0: the election was stolen from Trump and he was the rightful occupant of the White House. His base bought into it because their interests were aligned with Trump's - they both wanted Trump to have a second, consecutive term. This situation, which I refer to as the Big Lie 2.0, is different because Trump and his base are not aligned in the desired outcome. His base actually want the fi
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:5, Informative)
Trump fake electors plot [wikipedia.org]
Comprehensive Timeline on False Electors Scheme in 2020 Presidential Election [justsecurity.org]
I know you all hate to read and would all love to memory wipe this shit but it happened. Not even just insurrection, easily top 5 most treasonous thing done against the nation. That sounds hyperbolic but this shit is actually fucking crazy that it's real.
Trump removed habeas corpus from the Constitution (Score:2)
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To be honest, I am supremely shocked they even tried it like that. They would have had no legitimacy whatsoever. I don't care if you can push the levers of power as that does not prove your legitimacy. If Trump would have been declared 'President' after that January 6th bullshit, the country would have been in full insurrection.
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:4)
Fuck off with your bad faith semantics bullshit.
If you want to address the plot i brought up which has thousands of pages of evidence, testimony and a criminal case (before Trump killed it) of which Jan 6 is a part of go for it.
Otherwise as said, fuck off.
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Semantics?
It's fundamental to the activity.
If I were to break into the Capitol, and shoot and kill 50 lawmakers, that is not an "insurrection", that's merely me being a murderous shithead.
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Yes, semantics and it's bad faith.
You want to focus on the definition of "insurrection" as a word and maybe the legal concept and also take the event as just a separate isolated incident rather than an event that was brought upon by weeks of previous events. It's a deliberate diversion from the most damning aspects of what Trump was trying to do.
Or you don't really know about this then it's just a case of "so you have no frame of reference here Donny, you're like a child who wanders into the middle of a mov
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Yeah. If you're going to use a word, in this case, "insurrection", the definition of the word is important.
And yeah, of COURSE a prosecutor will only charge what he can prove, or what he can't prove. No surprises there!
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Cool so we all agree he probably did all those other crimes he was going to be charged with and that conspiracy to steal the election he was involved with was a real thing they tried to do?
Until in a perfectly sound American measure of justice the very man who probably did the crimes gets to make them go away and you are just fine with this I guess? No concerns right?
I mean totally, same right here, I can feel my inner Normal Rockwell painting. Rock Flag and Eagle baby.
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When a disorganized mob is actively trying to hamper or prevent government business from being conducted, that's called insurrection.
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"insurrection: an act or instance of rising in revolt, rebellion, or resistance against civil authority or an established government."
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Yeah.
The standard definition has the word "organized" in it.
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:4, Informative)
No, it's difficult to talk about the actual facts when chodes like yourself keep trying to "both sides" so you can continue to feel superior in centrism.
Why was the event organized on Jan 6?
What was happening that day?
Why did Trump tell a crowd at the White House to march to the Capitol?
What did he expect them to do?
What was "the right thing" Trump asked Pence to do?
Who were the first groups to break through the barricades?
Did those groups have plans?
These questions all have answers, they're just extremely inconvenient for anyone on earth trying to defend this.
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tone down the exaggerations when both parties and especially the president can't seem to get enough.
That's the thing, you think people like me are "exaggerating" when describing Trumps crimes but if anything statements like yours are the ones that are insidious in their dismissal and equivocation.
Stop buying into the conservative media narrative that Jan 6 was a one time event that takes place in a vacuum and not the culminating event of a months long plot to steal the election and circumvent the peaceful transfer of power for the first time in US history. By the President, the President betrayed the na
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How is a disorganized mob rushing a building full of lawmakers an "insurrection" ?
Disorganized?!?
They fucking had T-SHIRTS PRINTED!!!
https://cnnespanol.cnn.com/wp-... [cnn.com]
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At the end of the day, people believe whatever they want to believe.
It's the only way to explain most of what goes on in the world.
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:4, Informative)
I used to believe people in tech were smarter than that, but apparently not.
Years worth of posts like yours on Slashdot have long since dissuaded me of any kind of superior intelligence being present in tech. Willful ignorance abounds on this site so much so that the US president can try to swap out electors to change the results of an election he didn't win or rile up a mob and not do anything about said mob storming congress to halt confirmation of the same election for hours after they had gone out of control and we get posts like yours.
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:4, Informative)
I'm still amazed that, even to this day, you and so many others are denying the reality that is staring you in the face.
How many findings of facts in courts of law do you need to see?
How much testimony from Republicans in front of the J6 committee do you need to see?
The people on the ground on January 6 were only one part of the scheme. Open your eyes - there are still legal proceedings against the co-conspirators for state charges, and legal disbarments happening against the co-conspirators for their involvement.
That doesn't happen unless there's something there. Open your fucking eyes.
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Cool.
Now speak to the multiple state-level plots to swap in fake electors to steal the electoral votes, which were being coordinated by administraton officials like Mark Meadows and Jeffrey Clark - who are still in legal hot water btw.
Feel free to speak to the phone call to the Georgia governor imploring him to "find" 11,780 more votes - the exact number needed to win Georgia.
None of that had anything to do with the shitbags that vandalized the Capitol, and is widely documented in public record after bipart
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Please show an example of Democrats trying to send an "alternate slate of electors" when the legitimate government of the state has already certified the election for the Republican candidate.
Hint: you won't be able to because it's never happened. And yet you're trying to bothsides something that isn't both sides while claiming others are the "brainwashed" ones.
You are officially a fucking moron who makes bad choices, starting with what you choose to believe and who you choose to trust to give you accurate
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No, they did not.
There was an effort to have "uncommitted electors" change their votes, and not a single one did. Notice the word "uncommitted" in that sentence - that is a legal term that specifies certain electors from certain states where the state law allows the elector to make the choice.
But go ahead and continue gaslighting people to try to bothsides the fucking coup that the GOP tried (and is still trying). Either you're a useful idiot who actually believes this crap, or you are part of the gasligh
Oh God no we don't give a shit (Score:1, Troll)
Bottom line Biden didn't promise to release the docs. Trump did. Trump isn't releasing it because his name's all over it.
Bottom line number two you voted for a pedophile. And you could pretend you didn't when let's face it all along you knew Trump was a pedophile. You knew he raped those
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We should celebrate a pedophile rapist getting the justice they deserve, regardless of party. Beyond that, every living president should be sent to the Hague for war crimes.
Maga will do whatever TV tells them to do (Score:2)
Their entire media diet is 120% right wing propaganda on par with anything Vlad Putin puts out.
And they can't go anywhere because they've burned so many bridges with their family to obsess over Trump.
I just saw yet another story about some dumb Boomer type who was going on to her daughter about how Trump is going to make family great again so that she can have grandchildren only for her daughter the rip into her because her daughte
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Not that it matters to people just trying to bothsides everything, but during the Biden administration, the criminal appeals process was (and is) still going for Mrs. Maxwell. Also, the DoJ was still a mostly-independent-of-politics operation still. Now it absolutely is not.
DoJ policy is not to reveal any non-public evidence until all appeals are exhausted and the case's final disposition is known, because you don't know if an appeals court is going to kick it back to a trial court for more hearings or a
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Your post reminds me of the Bernie Sanders supporters who threw their weight behind Trump when Sanders didn't win the Democratic nomination. Regardless of the Democratic party's treatment of Sanders during the nomination one clearly doesn't care about policy if one goes from Sanders to Trump given their massive differences. The whole thing was stupid, "change" is not inherently good even if one isn't happy with the status quo.
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Epstein won't take Trump down, no matter how much you or I would like it to.
Why? Because nothing materially new has come to light. Everything we know today was basically already known when a sufficient number of people voted for a senile rapist to be President. We already saw the video of those two shitbags leering at young women and whispering to each other. We already saw the photos of them at multiple social occasions. We already read the quotes about how they were such good buddies back in the day.
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:5, Insightful)
1. The FBI does not and should not release investigation files that do not have indictments "just because". Your name could be in that investigation for totally benign reasons, should we potentially frag it through the mud because people just really want to know?
2. I know conservatives find this one unbelievablke because they've given up on democracy, rule of law, legal procedure and every other principle this nation operated under but the President is not supposed to interfere with judicial system.
The question you should be asking then is "Why didn't Merrick Garland release the files" and then the question after that you should be asking is "Is it criminal and legal procedure to release investigation files like this and is it done normally" which then should lead you to look into it and when you come to the answer of "no, it's not normal at all for good reasons" then your next question should be "well when has it been done and how should it be done?" which takes us to #3
3. The real people you should be asking as to why they didn't release is Congress as they as the representatives of the people at large can vote to have those files released for public interest or whatever reason they deem fit. They are given the authority to override such procedures.
4. Biden never ran on releasing the files, it was not a campaign issue for him or his voter base. If you think that's bad then it's on you to present evidence that there is actually something in there worthy of overstepping all those legal bounds of which actually there isn't just yet.
Trump and the Republicans got into this mess by shamelessly pandering and conspiracy baiting on this issue, now they can dick their dumb asses out of it. A better world is one where their base realizes the Republican media and politicians have been treating them like they're stupid and decides to eat them alive.
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>2. I know conservatives find this one unbelievablke because they've given up on democracy, rule of law, legal procedure and every other principle this nation operated under but the President is not supposed to interfere with judicial system.
Oh i'm laughing. You have the memory of a fucking goldfish.
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Vagueposting the territory of the mentally incapable. .
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That's entirely true. It's also true that no reasonable person in this country would be demanding the release of the files if the DoJ through the past six presidential terms could be bothered to even pretend to do their fucking jobs and prosecute the
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Can't disagree with that and that's why I have no issue with Congress voting to release the files, that way we the public have decided the consequences of the release are worth it, as it were, as much as we can judge that.
Also it allows us as society to maintain the needed norm and precedent of keeping investigations under wraps since that is a necessary component of the justice system.
It shouldn't be by single person or party decision either to block or release.
Re:Is there anyone who doesn't know this is BS now (Score:5, Insightful)
Why didn't Biden release the Epstein files during his presidency? You keep cunting out about them, but even in your extremely unhinged mental state, you should be asking some questions.. The DNC would have done almost ANYTHING to prevent Trump from winning, so why not release/leak something so incriminating and salacious?
Biden didn't run on the promise to release the Epstein files. Trump did.
Aside from that, I look for the Epstein files to be a house-cleaning of both parties, if they ever get released. There's corruption, and then there's national level politician corruption. Morality is some kinda dirty word for those folks.
He didn't promise to (Score:3, Insightful)
It is certainly not normal for the president to intercede with the justice department and release documents related to a potential criminal investigation.
But over and over and over again Trump promised us that we would get those documents so that powerful men like him could be held accountable by the people.
And here we are it's time to release them and we find out Trump's name is all over them and crickets.
Now that Ma
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> You traded a stable economy and good solid infrastructure spending and jobs and low interest rates ...
So true. I mean, look at the jump in mortgage rates after Trump took office in 2021::
https://fred.stlouisfed.org/se... [stlouisfed.org]
We had a chance to vote that bag of meat out in 2024, and instead, morons gave him a 3rd term? We had a cratering M&A market under Trump's Lina Khan FTA, as reflected in this chart::
https://www.marquetteassociate... [marquetteassociates.com]
Wasn't that enough? Why choose to continue snuffing out our startups
As long as you morons keep talking about Epstein (Score:2)
I have noticed that the Reddit conservative forms have stopped talking about Epstein entirely. Amazing how good your mods are on your own turf. Funny to watch you self-censoring.
You guys are all Trump's bitches. Which is appropriate because you act like 12-year-olds
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You may as well have just posted "I have no counter-argument to anything he just said" because that's what I read with your idiot one-liner whataboutist bothsides-ist bullshit.
So that's really just a game (Score:2)
By extension I replied to him because I knew that my reply would remain visible and therefore that would keep the entire thread visible and eventually the points I made would get modded up.
It's a silly little game. Of course we are playing a silly little game to see whether or not a pedophile gets to decide how we all live our l
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The reason for that idiot post is because the poster knows this website has limited mod points and he's trying to absorb some mod points in order to keep my post-modded down.
I hate how people rag on you, I really do. But that is some crazy conspiracy shit. If they really care about mod points that much then stay out of it because they are the immature idiots.
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Why didn't Biden release the Epstein files during his presidency?
Imagine the Republican outcry had Biden directed his DOJ to do this - or half the stuff Trump has been doing, or rambling incoherently about, or cheating at golf. Biden's DOJ was much, much more independent (as it should be) than Trump's DOJ, who basically take their marching orders directly from him.
In any case, I'm sure there are valid, legal reasons for an independent DOJ to not release the files, as well as compelling public-interest reasons to release them, regardless of the President/party in char
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In any case, I'm sure there are valid, legal reasons for an independent DOJ to not release the files, as well as compelling public-interest reasons to release them, regardless of the President/party in charge.
Pick one or more:
- ongoing criminal justice procedures (appeals) and preserving a jury pool in case an appeals court kicks it back to a trial court for retrial
- existing doctrine that criminal investigation files are not publicly released as a matter of course
- (then) independence of the Department of Justice, and not wanting to voluntarily toss a hand grenade into the political arena for no legal reason, just politics
- Biden worrying about other things that are far more productive for a President to be wor
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- (then) independence of the Department of Justice, and not wanting to voluntarily toss a hand grenade into the political arena for no legal reason, just politics
Unless you're FBI Director James Comey (a Republican) and you've got some dirt on Hillary Clinton just before the election, that you're not suppose to divulge due to it being an on-going investigation, but do because ???, with it ultimately resulting in no charges filed under the winning Republican Administration ...
Hillary Clinton: I Was 'Dumbfounded' When Comey Reopened Email Probe [nbcnews.com]
Clinton said she was stunned when then-FBI Director James Comey reopened the agency's investigation into her private email server just days before the 2016 election.
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Five different administrations (six if you count Obama's consecutive terms as two separate administrations) have completely failed to release the files. The reason people complain about it with Trump is that he is the one candidate who promised to release them if he was elected in 2024. And after citizens pledged their votes for him, he's done everything he can to bury them deeper than any previous administration. If he didn't want to rele
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they're holding their leader accountable for his actions.
Are they, though?
We haven't seen any accountability other than people not taking the offered bait to change the topic of conversation. And we won't see any accountability until the House is back in session, and the Government Oversight committee starts looking through all the shit they subpoena'd yesterday.
That is, if the DoJ actually responds to the subpoena. Who's going to prosecute them if they don't?
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Why didn't Biden release the Epstein files during his presidency? You keep cunting out about them, but even in your extremely unhinged mental state, you should be asking some questions.. The DNC would have done almost ANYTHING to prevent Trump from winning, so why not release/leak something so incriminating and salacious?
They were under Seal. Next Stupid Question?
Remember, last year, back when the DOJ was actually independent from the White House?
One of dozens of References:
https://balleralert.com/profil... [balleralert.com]
Time for this MAGAt Meme to DIE, DIE, DIE!!!
The deal (Score:5, Insightful)
I predict Apple will honor the deal exactly the way Trump does.
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I predict Apple will honor the deal exactly the way Trump does.
Well said.
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Cracks me up that Apple is moving manufacturing to India to circumvent the Chinese tariffs but Trump just put a 50% tariff on India for buying Russian oil.
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They didn't move anything. The factories in India and China were already there and making phones. They changed where they were delivered. It does sound like Trump's threats to India about buying Russian oil (which I agree with) will likely force Apple to use Chinese iPhones in the USA again.
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Likely this $100M means Trump will extend those "smart phone tariff exceptions" to India as well.
Though, one needs to remember that Apple said they were investing $70M a few months ago, so chances are the real thing is $30M more. Maybe, though they probably will demand a tax holiday to onshore money tax free for it to happen as well.
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That's $100 BILLION ... with 'B', not Million.
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I'm all for that...let's get that cash back IN the US....have it flowing in our economy ......
And as far as iPhones made in the US...I wouldn't mind paying a premium for an US made iPhone....
Hell, right now, with most any purchase I DO see if there is a US company making things here and will save and pay extra to get US made goods...especially anything that is hand made these days,, like boots.
I'm liking the offer
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Sure he's the president, but a president (or a self-styled king) can't get anything done if the people under him don't play ball. I don't even know how the government will enforce all the random rules he's trying to create (or keep track of the "special agreemen
It's the Mac Pro all over again... (Score:4, Insightful)
They'll make them here until Trump leaves office and they quietly shutter the facility.
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No, the factory is unlikely to be built and operating and making anything before Trump leaves office.
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The supply chains are so big that the only thing the US could do now is assemble some simple items.
There are not the people, the resources, the infrastructure etc freely available in the US for this to be viable.
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It's cute that you think this won't be another Wisconsin Foxconn 2-step.
They'll make a big announcement with big numbers with a lot of zeroes after them. And then they'll probably buy some property they were looking to acquire anyway. And they'll drag their feet until Trump is out of office, and then all of this will stop without even $100m being spent in total.
$100m amortized over 3 years is a small price to pay to have the President fuck off and leave you alone for 3 years when you are a $3T enterprise.
Re:It's the Mac Pro all over again... (Score:4, Interesting)
They'll make them here until Trump leaves office and they quietly shutter the facility.
The thing is, both Apple and Trump would probably be ok with that outcome.
It's the ultimate consequence of the "perception is reality" mindset that started in corporate management, and has now become deeply embedded in government.
The facts don't matter. Accusations of hypocricy are missing the point. "Vibe" is everything. If Apple say they'll obey Trump, then Trump gets the perceived tribute he wants. His followers perceive this as a win. Trump doesn't care what actually happens.
Until society has some sort of second enlightenment, when we renew our respect for pursuit of truth, and are able to suppress our urges to just "support our team", this is the leadership with which we are stuck.
knowhow (Score:2)
Manufacturing requires knowhow. Once the old guard who knew how dies off, as it has in the US, you can't just flip a switch.
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Remember Foxconn? (Score:2)
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And more than that, Foxconn taught any business executive paying attention how to use some cheap press releases and real estate purchasing to score some tax breaks while not actually doing anything, all the while getting problematic politicians to fuck off and bother someone else.
Amazing (Score:1)
Virtually NONE of the posts before mine have ANYTHING to do with the story, and are just all about Trump.
I mean, fucking Christ people!
Why does fucking EVERYTHING have to be about Trump? Every god damned story on Slashdot, some fuckheads have to start shit either attacking Trump or defending/praising Trump. Every fucking one!!
Shut the fuck up already!! Can we just discuss the stories?
God damn!!!! Enough already!!!
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The very first word in the headline for this article is "Trump".
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Yes it is.
It's not insurrection.
It's not pedophilia.
It's not Epstein.
It's not about that shit stain Trump and his various escapades.
It's about opening a fucking manufacturing facility.
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2. If you don't like Slashdot reporting on this, don't encourage them by commenting on the article. At the time I'm writing this, I count three comments from you so far.
Both Sides Played the Game (Score:4, Insightful)
Good deal for Apple (Score:2)
Yet Another Apple Job Announcement (Score:1)
The bad news is the good jobs are disappearing. (Score:2)
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We employ a lot of people in car manufacturing and the country is proud of it. I'm not really sure why the liberal side says that similar manufacturing just can't be done in the US
Um. The U.S. is 2nd in the world in manufacturing already, and with a much smaller population than China (https://www.macrotrends.net/global-metrics/countries/usa/united-states/manufacturing-output). Per capita, we manufacture more in the U.S. than any other country in the world. Manufacturing output is UP in the U.S. in recent years, with 2020 as the exception.
The problem is that while manufacturing is UP, jobs in manufacturing are DOWN, because robots and machines make pretty much everything now. Even i
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I think you are basically correct. Have a look at the numbers they threw out. $500 billion investment, 20000 jobs. Something is fishy about their promise. If I got my 0s correctly, that's about $25 million per job created. If they do as promised, nearly all of that will go to capital investments with a few caretakers to do the work (and where they plan on spending the $500 billion... is it going to be in foreign-sourced items or local?)
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Strategically I wonder if this isn't more about nationalism than about jobs, that is to say, about ensuring the country can produce the things it needs during a time of conflict, and not relying on imports for essential technology. That seems to be a more likely reason for this specific push, but they always try to hide these things behind "jobs"...ah...politics...sigh...
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You almost seem to be saying this like it is NOT a good primary reason for bringing manufacturing back to the US?
Per my other post, did you forget covid days?
It is a national security risk big time...especially
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Nope...we need as much of the critical manufacturing as we can do in the US.
Did you forget the pandemic so quickly? We got a good glimpse at what a national security threat looks like when we depend on external nations (some openly hostile like china) for our products and raw materials ......
If you don't do it here...other nations have you by the balls....
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Manufacturing jobs are gone. And good riddance. Most manufacturing jobs are dangerous, repetitive, and mind-numbing.
I work for a manufacturer, 20 years now. I think saying that most manufacturing jobs are dangerous is a stretch. They are more dangerous than office work, sure. Few jobs in general aren't repetitive. And most importantly, these are good people, but they are not rocket surgeons and never will be. Mental effort jobs are hard in a different way, and I'd say they require a discipline that's best learned/discovered in one's younger days. If you don't have that now, you never really wanted it. Even my coll
Re:This is a gamble (Score:5, Informative)
We employ a lot of people in car manufacturing and the country is proud of it. I'm not really sure why the liberal side says that similar manufacturing just can't be done in the US.
No, you've just been told by a diet of conservative media that liberals say that.
Liberals absolutely believe manufacturing can be done in America and in fact the Biden admin added about 600k manufacturing jobs during their term with more that were on the way due to incentives in bills like the Bipartisan Infrastructure bill, the IRA and the CHIPS Act. The liberals also believe in the importance of unions in making sure those union jobs pay well and have worker protections. Conservatives have spent my entire life dismantling unions and labor power and now they are surprised manufacturing has fled and nobody wants to do it anymore?
Liberals just don't believe that broad tariffs, fiat executive orders and using the government as a weapon of violence against US corporations is the best way to get it.
600k jobs in the next 39 months to beat Biden, clocks ticking.
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The liberals also believe in the importance of unions in making sure those union jobs pay well and have worker protections.
I think it's important here to not conflate "Liberals" with "Democrats in elected office". The way so many high-profile Dems-in-office have been bending over and greasing up for Trump tells me that most of them are a spineless lot of opportunists who would sell out their own mothers for a PAC cheque.
In short, most high-ranking Dems don't give a crap about the viability of unions - they just take the easiest and laziest path toward holding down their jobs and keeping the money rolling in.
From where I stand,
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Maybe but Joe Biden and his admin were easily the most pro-union Presidential admin in my lifetime, easily the strongest support since Reagan and union support is the position of the party itself. That still matters.
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We employ a lot of people in car manufacturing and the country is proud of it. I'm not really sure why the liberal side says that similar manufacturing just can't be done in the US.
See, even if your supply chains for car parts are all overseas, it still kind of makes sense to assemble the parts into completed cars here. Cars aren't exactly the most space-efficient things to ship (the passenger compartment is mostly air, and you can't really pack cars too tightly together or they'll get damaged).
i-Things on the other hand? You can cram a whole bunch of them into a shipping container. I'd venture a guess it's actually less efficient to ship over a bunch of iPhone parts for final asse
Re:This is a gamble (Score:5, Insightful)
If there are not some noticable outcomes before elections, his party is toast. I believe there is a year before midterms and 3 until the next presidential election.
It's kinda cute how y'all blithely assume that there will even be midterms and another presidential election, never mind any future elections being at all fair and representative of the will of the people.
Go ahead - take an honest look at recent events involving the courts, the military, the national guard, masked ICE agents, etc. Then tell me with a straight face that America's electoral process will continue to be a business-as-usual process.
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I have no problem with ICE acting within the laws on the books and kicking people who are here illegally the fuck out of the US.
In fact, I voted for it.
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some redistricting will shape the vote their way
20% is very likely way too low at least initially (Score:3)
Though that might be on target, when the new onshore Apple factory is a completely automated "dark factory" [scio-automation.com] where most of the jobs are for the factory builders and then delivery drivers who bring raw materials. At least, until the autonomous robots can do that also as well as reconfigure the factory for newer products.
AI Version:
The new onshore Apple factory may not create a surge in manufacturing jobs as anticipated due to its planned "dark factory" automation. Initial employment will focus on factory co
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And "consultants" will be flown in from China, live in company dorms, and then fly back once they've paid off their debt to the company store and the cost of their transportation. You know, slavery. Democrats wouldn't allow that but they have no power to stop it.
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No need to fly them in. ICE is out "recruiting" thousands of free "employees" every day.