

Google To Require Identity Verification for All Android App Developers by 2027 (androidauthority.com) 97
Google will require identity verification for all Android app developers, including those distributing apps outside the Play Store, starting September 2026 in Brazil, Indonesia, Singapore, and Thailand before expanding globally through 2027. Developers must register through a new Android Developer Console beginning March 2026. The requirement applies to certified Android devices running Google Mobile Services. Google cited malware prevention as the primary motivation, noting sideloaded apps contain 50 times more malware than Play Store apps.
Hobbyist and student developers will receive separate account types. Developer information submitted to Google will not be displayed to users.
Hobbyist and student developers will receive separate account types. Developer information submitted to Google will not be displayed to users.
Good luck? More like a good chance (Score:2)
for someone to finally replace this enshittified crapfest.
Who to smack (Score:3)
If you write any code they dont like they need to be able to find you to smack you.
Also the future is showing where being a developer is allowed only if you toe the line.
Eventually some day in my life I may be arrested for illegally possessing a C++ compiler.
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Haha funny words from your high 7 digit uid.
Of course they have to verify the people... (Score:2)
KYC isn't needed for communication on the internet but it's absolutely needed for financialization on the internet.
This is not KYC (Score:5, Interesting)
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Re:This is not KYC (Score:5, Informative)
You still can write or install your own software.
If you identify yourself for an Android Developer account.
That doesn't mean Google should be forced to distribute it through their store
This is explicitly for things not on the Play Store. This would apply to sideloading or from alternate stores like F-Droid.
I don't think it will be successful at stopping any organized entities.
Then why is it ok to remove developer privacy?
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In an environment where sideloading exists, there are plenty of ways to distribute apps without needing a verified developer account.
Every platform is dealing with the same problem of regulators realizing they were filled with a mas
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In an environment where sideloading exists, there are plenty of ways to distribute apps without needing a verified developer account.
Except for where you can't sideload apps where the app package name and app signing key isn't registered against a known developer account.
keep arguing against KYC for the Play Store.
Really I think you should read the article and on Google's developer verification site [android.com]. Note that it's not all Play Store apps, but all apps on Google certified Android devices.
Stated again on the Google Play Support pages [google.com] as:
all Android apps must be registered by verified developers in order to be installed on certified Android devices - including through Google Play - in Brazil, Singapore, Indonesia, and Thailand. A global rollout will follow.
Re:This is not KYC (Score:4, Insightful)
You still can write or install your own software. That doesn't mean Google should be forced to distribute it through their store.
I know it's /. tradition to only read the headline and jump to your own conclusion from there, but this change affects all Android development. Without Google's signature, not even your sideloaded "Hello world" app will install.
What this could also potentially kill is the app modding community, since most of the people working on that sort of stuff aren't really interested in receiving nastygrams.
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You can have all the privacy you want. Don't distribute your software via Google.
Re:This is not KYC (Score:5, Insightful)
You can have all the privacy you want. Don't distribute your software via Google.
That's not how this is going to be implemented. If you don't register with Google, you won't be able to sign your apps with a valid key and they won't even be sideloadable. Google is basically taking a page out of Apple's book, after seeing how Apple chose to implement their own version of sideloading.
It's kind of like the removal of the headphone jack all over again. Apple tends to be something of a trendsetter in user-hostile behaviors.
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Right. So don't distribute your apps via Android.
You can just publish your project files and let people build and install it themselves. Total privacy for you.
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They already made custom ROMs lesser than official ROMs through Android Verified Boot's boot status system. (Where even a signed custom ROM is considered less trustworthy than a manufacturer signed official ROM by Play Services.)
They already banned custom ROMs via Play Protect / SafetyNet.
They already made it so that Play Services scans every app installed regardless of ori
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It's kind of like the removal of the headphone jack all over again. Apple tends to be something of a trendsetter in user-hostile behaviors.
Actually it's nothing like that. Apple may have removed the headphone jack irking users, but the reality is most Android devices didn't follow suit for many years once most people migrated away from wired headphones anyway. The removal of the headphone jack for Apple was user hostile, but the removal of it on android devices was more akin to shipping computers without floppy disks.
If you want a headphone jack buy a phone with one. There's plenty on the market. Not every phone needs every feature for every p
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Unfortunately, we don't have right to repair, so we can't bypass the code signing process, and if you made a tool to do so, it would likely violate the DMCA.
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Today, Google announced it is introducing a new “developer verification requirement” for all apps installed on Android devices, regardless of source. The company wants to verify the identity of all developers who distribute apps on Android, even if those apps aren’t on the Play Store. ... Only users with “certified” Android devices — meaning those that ship with the Play Store, Play Services, and other Google Mobile Services (GMS) apps — will block apps from unverified developers from being installed.
Starting in September 2026, Android will require all apps to be registered by verified developers in order to be installed on certified Android devices.
And BTW "certified Android devices" is most main stream phones sold in stores, the ones most people own. Yes, you can roll your own Android on some phones and this one be an issue, but it will affect the vast majority of devices and users out there.
um, that's something else (Score:2)
We're NOT talking Google store here, we're talking about side loading, which by definition does NOT use Google's store.
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Sorry but no, fuck off with the slippery slope argument. Google is pretending to offered a curated wall garden through their play store but not implementing basic fraud protections. There should be no right to publish anything in the play store without identity verification.
If you want to push custom code from unverified sources to your phone, sideload like a normal person. Right now we're in the shitty situation where Google is gatekeeping in a way that provides no benefit of gatekeeping. Go one way or the
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Sadly, I can't have an unverified developer account for my free stuff, and then prove my identity when I decide to try and make money. As such, I have to conclude their reasons for doing this are not entirely KYC.
I'm ok with this? (Score:1)
Like... they're hosting the software, they have a reasonable need to know who's giving them the software, and an absolute right to refuse to host it if you won't tell them.
As long as you can sideload apk's still of course. Take that away, and it changes a lot.
Re:I'm ok with this? (Score:4, Informative)
Re:I'm ok with this? (Score:5, Interesting)
Re:I'm ok with this? (Score:5, Interesting)
Malware has been squirming in Play Store for decades. So what happened recently, there are some new apps that alert others when ICE or illegals are spotted. Now Google finally is doing this. Do you really think it's about malware?
Damn - I'm fresh out of mod points. You may have been modded down because somebody thinks you're paranoid, but I think you have an interesting and valid point. Google is not immune to serious pressure from an administration whose Fascism is becoming bolder and more undeniable.
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So what happened recently?
The TikTok ban, that's what happened.
Google is moving towards a position of greater control over what is allowed on their platform, so if the government says they want an app "removed", they abso-fucking-lutely can remove it for good. This move puts them in line with Apple, where they can revoke your developer privileges even if you're not distributing through their first party app store. Sure, Google claims it's ostensibly to identify bad actors releasing malware, but the capability of using it in other
Re: I'm ok with this? (Score:2)
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You like... very very clearly didn't actually read my comment, but that does seem to be the style at the time.
A great idea (Score:2)
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There will probably be an exception for developers who need to test code out, and if they try to ban any useful apps like the Revanced stuff it won't take long for people to enable those. I already have because developer mode is needed for certain things like open source apps in Android Auto.
My identity (Score:1, Funny)
I'm a pink deer.
I frolic in the Marshmallow Forest.
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I frequently see value in what you have to say, but the post I'm responding to seems both off-topic and a touch unhinged. Maybe you should allow a little more time between clicking Preview and Submit?
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I'm calling them out because they don't really care about any of that. It's just a credibility enhancing display. Google that phrase and you will know what I mean.
Basically that's a fancy way to say virtue signaling.
I'm saying that the libertarians are right wing and the right wing has absolutely no principles. Just blind obedience to the hierarchy.
And so the peo
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I don't see it as being off topic. The people who are supposed to be most concerned with a surveillance state or completely silent.
Presumably you've seen this? [youtube.com] We were warned about this decades ago. RMS sounded the alarm many times, even right here on /. [slashdot.org]
This is just the endgame of the general public paying little mind to the fact that they don't actually own the devices they're paying for. Heck, you even see a few of the comments here where some of our supposedly tech-savvy demographic is fine with this, because it ostensibly leads to less malware. Other than shout into the void about it, nothing can realistically be done. This is
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The Libertarians - I used to be one - are generally OK with anything a company does which doesn't involve force or fraud. So I wouldn't expect them to complain about what Google does. And lots of them have zero interest in smoking dope and boffing sixteen-year-olds. They just want to make sure that the government doesn't try to stop such people from doing those things if they want, provided that everyone consents.
As for "Google monitoring every line of code you write and tying it back to your personal ident
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Yep. Influential Libertarians gave full support [coreyrobin.com] to Pinochet's dictatorship in Chile back in the day; show a lot of support for Monarchism; [duckduckgo.com] ranged from indifferent to outright hostile [altrightorigins.com] towards the Civil Rights movement, and so on.
Defeating the point of side loading (Score:5, Insightful)
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GrapheneOS, CalyxOS, LineageOS, etc are out there.
The device support is limited because these projects are small. But if you think about it, Google itself mainly releases Android read-to-go for Pixel phones and a handful of partner devices. And Google's resources are several orders of magnitudes larger than that of an open source project.
I recent swapped out my wife's cheap Motorola for a Pixel precisely because I wanted to get us all on a platform where we have more control and where we can disable invasiv
Re: Defeating the point of side loading (Score:3)
"I recent swapped out my wife's cheap Motorola for a Pixel precisely because I wanted to get us all on a platform where we have more control and where we can disable invasive AI and microphone monitoring that seems to be the latest fad in the mobile industry"
But that makes no sense. Google is one of the most invasive purveyors of that crap, and Moto/Lenovo only pushes Google's on you just as Google does, so what you've accomplished is spending more for a phone that will do exactly the same amount of unwante
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It makes sense because Pixel is supported by Graphene and Calyx.
Re: Defeating the point of side loading (Score:2)
I see now where you are going with that, but didn't I just read something about Google reducing code sharing? I'll have to look that up later, it's not convenient now.
There are also Moto phones with unlockable boot loaders, but it's not all of them. I'm on a non-unlockable one right now, sigh.
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Calyx threw in the towel.
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Ahh, here is the link I was looking for:
https://www.androidauthority.c... [androidauthority.com]
Google is not killing AOSP, but they are making it much harder to support AOSP on Pixel devices.
I hope your move to Pixel works out for you, but it probably won't.
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As far as I understand it, you still sign yourself, but Google needs to give you a certificate for your signing key. This then allows Google to revoke your certificate and render all your apps useless, but does not tell them what apps you're signing.
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Of course they still know what apps you're signing, as Play Protect scans the phones of billions of Google users.
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I thought the point of side loading was to avoid having to go through the Play Store, given its high commission costs.
This is sideloading being locked. (Score:3)
For some context, Windows allows you to run unsigned apps if you bypass the scary warning and MacOS allows you to run unnotarized apps if you change some OS settings. But Google is going full iOS: No sideloading of unsigned/unnotarized apps at all. Android as delivered to most users (with GMS) is a closed platform now.
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Well, shit. I'm going to have to get an alternative phone I guess.
All affected users should sue Google in small claims court for bait and switch for the apps they sold through their app store. Almost certain to fail, but at least it will cost them money, the scum.
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I also hope some kind of legal action is taken against Google, but I wouldn't bet on it.
BTW what is this "alternative phone" going to be? Lots of apps that you need to navigate modern life nowada
Re: This is sideloading being locked. (Score:2)
I'm ok without those apps, not excited but I don't use them anyway. (I have used Uber about three times, but not in literally years.) My employer issued me a phone because they are not stupid enough to embrace the security nightmare that is BYOD, so my authenticator has a place to run.
I don't pretend it won't be inconvenient, but this is unacceptable.
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BYOD was mostly an employee demand so employees don't have to carry two phones to work.
I don't know if that's true or not, but if so, those people are stupid.
In my case I carry a whole-ass laptop bag to work (we bring our machines back in to the office for our in-office days) and the phone can fit in it without trouble.
Meanwhile, you are as you say allowing your employer into your phone. Mine has made it clear that if I use my phone for work stuff, I may have to hand the phone over in the case of an investigation into things that happen at work. Therefore I don't use it for that. Even if I'm
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I mean, you can technically live without apps such Deliveroo, Uber, Whats App, Viber, and the like, but you probably don't want to.
You sure can. I do. I never even heard of some of those apps.
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Some of us just go pick up food from the restaurant ourselves. I own a car, I don't need someone else to bring me food in their car and maybe eat some of my fries, and charge me for the privilege.
I might miss the Uber app if I traveled to some city where I wasn't driving around, I guess, but I really never do that. The last time I used Uber was when I went to a beer festival about five years ago.
I'm sure some disabled people would miss those apps a lot, but it wouldn't affect me at this point.
I have never u
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For some context, Windows allows you to run unsigned apps if you bypass the scary warning and MacOS allows you to run unnotarized apps if you change some OS settings.
For now.
At least the saving grace with x86 hardware though, is that it's still open enough that you can say "fuck Microsoft" and run Linux instead, if that day comes.
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At least the saving grace with x86 hardware though, is that it's still open enough that you can say "fuck Microsoft" and run Linux instead, if that day comes.
Unless the cable and fiber ISPs for your area require a dialer application that is exclusive to macOS, iOS, genuine Windows, and certified Android.
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I was using the term "dialer" to refer to a native application that responds to a challenge issued by a network access control server on a LAN or WLAN. When the user connects to the ISP through a LAN or WLAN, the user's machine is initially quarantined behind a captive portal offering only downloads of the dialer for Windows and macOS. The dialer then assesses the device, ostensibly to ensure that an antivirus approved by the ISP is running, and relays this information to a server that grants access to the
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This doesn't seem problematic to me.
Even if you can only side-load signed apps, at least the app developer doesn't have to pay Google's high commission rates. Isn't that what side loading is really about?
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No, another major benefit of sideloading is developer anonymity, since sideloading can be used to install self-signed apks. This is going away now, soon you'll have to submit your apk to Google along with real ID information so your apk is Google-signed (euphemistically called "remotely self-signed"). This will be an issue for developers writing apps such as YouTube Downloaders, since Google could go after them (they already have done so in the past), and develo
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Perhaps some developers want anonymity. But the vast majority want to be known for their work, especially those who want to sell software. Also, prudent users prefer to know who the developer is, because secretive developers tend to produce malware. Installing unsigned apps, is like buying a Rolex on the street. It's a very risky thing to do.
No, I don't think developer anonymity is an important benefit of side loading, at least, not for users or for reputable developers.
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By definition such software titles are breaking the law (whether we agree with the law or not). I don't have a lot of sympathy for developers who want to install illegal software. Your suggested use cases certainly don't justify the outrage.
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I'm sure you haven't demonstrated that it's a problem. Unsigned APKs, or Windows executables for that matter, are most definitely a problem. Even most major open source software is signed, for good reason. If it's not signed, then you have no confidence that the binary came from who you think it came from, and could easily have been altered in ways you wouldn't want.
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I have no objection to such an option.
Also in the EU? (Score:2)
When Google and Apple were just forced to stop forcing the Appstores on users (and make sideloading less scary in the case of Google) I think such a decision is quite a provocation. And I bet there will be many privacy advocates trying to get the EU to sue against that.
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But the point of TFA is, that Google wants to limit sideloading. Alternative Appstores use sideloading mechanisms, independent developers may even want to distribute APK files. If you prevent that, you give the Appstore again a monopoly that gets the EU's attention.
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Yes, that could be implemented, but currently it is not. It can be that some Amazon Fire devices had both privileged Amazon Store and Google Store, but there is no simple API to do that. Also you may not limit who creates Appstores, so where is the point in limiting apps? If I can force you to allow my appstore, I can create a boilerplate appstore for a single app, if I have to do that.
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Find a new excuse (Score:2)
I won't touch a device with Google services so doesn't really matter to me yet I find these excuses exceedingly lame. Everything is ALWAYS for your own security. The Google play store is an absolute cesspit of everything must be free malware.
Personally I always use adb install to install apps on my phone. So much easier and faster than screwing around with tiny screens and on screen keyboards. Also not having to deal with automatic updates that randomly break shit intentionally or otherwise is priceless
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I won't touch a device with Google services so doesn't really matter to me yet I find these excuses exceedingly lame. Everything is ALWAYS for your own security. The Google play store is an absolute cesspit of everything must be free malware.
Personally I always use adb install to install apps on my phone. So much easier and faster than screwing around with tiny screens and on screen keyboards. Also not having to deal with automatic updates that randomly break shit intentionally or otherwise is priceless.
How is ADB easier? Every Android device I've ever sideloaded on is as simple as opening the .apk file in a file browser, tapping install on the confirmation popup, and that's it.
So now more hardware to throw out (Score:3)
Just hope that one day that developer will do a version as an add on for Kodi on the RPi.
This enshitification of Android mean I really need to put more effort into finding future phones and tablets that run Linux instead.
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Well fuck this will also ruin Revanced - the APK patching system which relies on the ability to modify APKs and side load them on the phone. I've used Youtube without blocking ads before, it hurt. I suspect when this change happens I will be watching Youtube much less.
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Minimum requirements (Score:2)
Not only should you have to prove identity, you should also be required to provide proof of adequate insurance against liability, errors & omissions, etc.
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proof of adequate insurance
So now you're advocating the addition of gambling into this?
FYI: The purpose of Insurance is to fleece people with low risk, while avoiding high risk people entirely.
I.e. The person takes out a bet against themselves that they won't need to claim a payout that month, and their reward for not doing so is paying a premium to a company skimming off the top that will try every legal trick in the book to avoid paying when the person does make a claim.
This is bad enough, but like all other grifters, you wa
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I am all for gambling.
As for the purpose of insurance, it's to protect those the insured fucks over one way or another.
Imagine if software vendors were required to carry specific insurance for data breaches that pays $50K to each person whose data are released.
They would certainly have a lot more encouragement to protect against such breaches, rather than taking the position of "too bad, so sad" like they do now.
Can't get coverage? Too bad, so sad.
REALLY? (Score:2)
If I want to write an app for my phone and stick it on my phone (which I own) I should have to "prove identity" and "provide proof of adequate insurance against liability, errors & omissions, etc."????
WTF?
How long before I have to do the same for code I write and run on my PC???
Do you believe in ANYTHING that even resembles freedom and liberty? What, pray tell, is the justification for this headlong plunge in the direction of totalitarianism where mega-corps in bed with big government can dictate what y
So Apple was right (Score:2)
Privacy Rapists (Score:2)