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EV Sales Plummet In October After Federal Tax Credit Ends (caranddriver.com) 312

Longtime Slashdot reader sinij shares a report from Car and Driver: Sales of electric vehicles surged in September as shoppers rushed to take advantage of the $7500 federal EV tax credit before it disappeared at the end of the month. With the government subsidies now gone, EV sales were expected to take a hit in October. While only a few automakers still report sales on a monthly basis, the results we do have do not paint a rosy picture for EVs in a post-tax credit world.

The Korean automakers were hit particularly hard by the loss of the tax credit. The Hyundai Ioniq 5, which was the fifth-best-selling EV through the third quarter of this year, experienced a 63 percent drop, moving 1642 units in October 2025, down from 4498 in 2024. Its platform-mates saw similar declines. The Kia EV6 moved just 508 units, down 71 percent versus the same month the year before, while the luxurious Genesis GV60 only found 93 buyers, a 54 percent slide year over year. Things were even worse at Honda. While the Acura ZDX was recently discontinued after just a single model year, the related Honda Prologue remains on sale but registered just 806 units, down 81 percent from 4130 sales in October 2024. [...]

Obviously, this isn't the full picture, as several major players -- including General Motors, Toyota, Nissan, and Volkswagen -- only release sales reports on a quarterly basis, and others, such as Tesla and Rivian, don't break out individual sales at all. But with four of the top 10 bestselling EVs through Q3 all showing noteworthy declines in October, it spells trouble for the EV market at large. The end-of-year sales figures will provide a much clearer picture of whether October was just a blip or the start of a much more widespread problem for EV sales.

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EV Sales Plummet In October After Federal Tax Credit Ends

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  • by kaur ( 1948056 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @06:04AM (#65771880)

    Neither the summary nor the article bother to mention this.

    • by Tomahawk ( 1343 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @06:13AM (#65771890) Homepage

      Didn't you hear -- only the USA matters...!
      (... to US people, at least)

      • by dfghjk ( 711126 )

        "(... to US people, at least)"

        LOL, a real sophisticated take. You're definitely superior to Car & Driver and /. editors

    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @06:47AM (#65771920) Homepage Journal

      Also it's going to be in large part due to people rushing to buy them before the tax credit ends.

      In any case, the US needs more affordable EVs. In Europe they reached price parity with fossils a while back.

      • by serviscope_minor ( 664417 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @07:25AM (#65771976) Journal

        I think the US needs more affordable cars[*]. Everything has just spiraled up in the direction of ever more expensive, ever more bloated monstrosities.

        [*] well really they also need less car dependence but that's another topic entirely.

        • by dj245 ( 732906 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @07:40AM (#65772006)
          This is mainly due to inflation and to some extent a move to bigger luxury cars. Apples to apples it's not so bad.

          The typical well-equipped Civic from the early '90s (EX or Si in the $11kâ"$12k range) would be around $26,000â"$28,000 in inflation-adjusted dollars today.

          The 2025 Honda Civic starts around $24,250 for the LX trim, with better-equipped versions reaching $30,000 or more. Not only is this roughly the same price, but you're also getting a bigger and drastically safer car for the money today, even before considering the extra features standard on cars now.
        • by Dan East ( 318230 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @08:41AM (#65772064) Journal

          You can thank the federal DOT regulations for a good part of this. When every car is required to meet a very long list of requirements, like rear-view cameras and accompanied display, the cost is passed straight on to the consumer.

          There are many vehicles kept out of the US market by these regulations. I own a Suzuki Samurai (you know, the little "jeep" thing from the 1980s), and there is actually a very large group of people still fixing these up and running them. Well, they still make them (called the Suzuki Jimny [globalsuzuki.com]) and they are fully modernized, and start under $20k USD. These things would sell like CRAZY in the US, but they aren't legal here. Basically everywhere else in the world, but not here. Because there is some requirement (IE extra expense) they are not meeting to allow them in the US market. There are many affordable vehicles like these out there that can't be sold in the US.

          • by fropenn ( 1116699 ) on Wednesday November 05, 2025 @10:24AM (#65774810)

            rear-view cameras and accompanied display

            Rear-view cameras and their installation cost manufacturers less than $50 per car. Consumers say that back-up cameras are worth at least $300 in value to them, and historically there have been almost 300 back-up deaths per year, a huge portion of which is parents backing over their own children (many of which could be prevented with cameras), plus additional costs from injuries or other damages from back-up accidents (https://www.cambridge.org/core/journals/journal-of-benefit-cost-analysis/article/rear-visibility-and-some-unresolved-problems-for-economic-analysis-with-notes-on-experience-goods/E23D2791A6A365D827A82B0AF468049C).

            I'll happily pay $50 toward a car if it means it decreases the chance I, or one of my neighbors, will back over a child.

        • by dbialac ( 320955 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @09:13AM (#65772108)

          well really they also need less car dependence but that's another topic entirely.

          I'm sorry, but this is the usual statement about how we need less car dependence. In cities where things are densely packed, we already use mass transit. In areas where they aren't, we use cars. The former cities are considered walkable. Most European cities are also considered walkable. I've hiked across entire cities in Europe. I couldn't do that easily in the US. I've hiked up hills that aren't particularly tall on one side of 250,000 person cities and seen farm fields on the far side. Try doing that in the US. The US is built around cars, not busses and trains. There's no magic cure. It would require razing down almost all of the entire country. Efforts are being made so that some developments look more like European cities, but they are few and far between compared to post-WWII America housing and offices.

          • but this is the usual statement about how we need less car dependence.

            Yes?

            In cities where things are densely packed, we already use mass transit.

            You don't really, not much. But also in, say, France, there are towns with 140,000, in a metro area of 400,000 with mass transit systems (trams).

            The US is built around cars, not busses and trains. There's no magic cure. It would require razing down almost all of the entire country.

            You already did that once, you can do it again! Many, many cities in the US were buil

        • Re: (Score:3, Insightful)

          by cayenne8 ( 626475 )

          [*] well really they also need less car dependence but that's another topic entirely.

          Seriously...why not just drop this trope.

          Unless you force US citizens to selll their homes and all move to extreme urban cities....it just ain't gonna happen.

          Peroid.

          Do you folks from EU ever stop to think that we LIKE the way we live over here?

          • Re: (Score:2, Flamebait)

            Unless you force US citizens to selll their homes and all move to extreme urban cities.

            Why don't you drop this trope? I know it's a American attitude but things between the two wildest extremes do exist.

            Do you folks from EU ever stop to think that we LIKE the way we live over here?

            Maybe you should visit Stockholm. I hear the syndromes there are great!

      • Re: (Score:3, Informative)

        by jmke ( 776334 )
        > In Europe they reached price parity with fossils a while back.

        LOL! They definitely did not reach any price parity with ICE. Not on features, not on price. You pay more to get less.

        VW Polo entry level
        80 BHP
        5.5L/100 KM
        Range: 700-800km
        Trunk: 351L
        €25805

        ID.3 entry level
        170BHP
        Range: 356km
        Trunk: 385L
        €34000

        ------------------
        if you use it for short trips, then the ID.3 is cheaper to run, but you paid almost €9000 more... that was the price of a small car not too long ago... a
        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          Compare MG with similar cars. Look at actual sale prices, not list prices which only exist for tax purposes.

          For example, an MG S5 top spec long range is about £23-24k, and a similar size and spec Nissan Qashqai is around £32k. Those are actual sale prices, not list. I'm not even sure anyone makes anything fossil powered that is similar size and spec to the S5, in the same price bracket. Probably another Chinese manufacturer.

          Range exceeds bladder capacity so is basically a non-issue f

          • by jmke ( 776334 )
            >Compare MG with similar cars

            no.
            comparing same brand cars.

            "oh look this Chinese state owned company called "MG" has cheaper cars"
            /care
        • by thegarbz ( 1787294 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @03:42PM (#65773264)

          how horrible is that..

          I ran the numbers just for shits and giggles assuming my own country's electricity price (at the charging pole) and petrol price going past the station on the way home today and over a 5 year period driving 15000km/yr the ID.3 is cheaper. I actually drive 25000km/yr so even on a 3 year lease term the ID.3 is cheaper for me. I didn't include the cost of maintenance (which is far higher for a gasoline car). Not sure why you would fill an electric car at EUR0.75/kWh. I've had my car for years and never once hooked it to a fast charger at that price. I'm sure you must be one of those people who spend all their lives doing long-distance road trips.

          My wife's car is 10 years old now. Over that period of time the ID.3 would have been an outright bargain even with your hyper inflated numbers. And your numbers are hyper inflated. That 34000EUR ID.3 model sells for 29900EUR on VW's website now, while the cheapest polo is 25990EUR. In fact when I run my actual numbers for my country using your choice of car I would pay it back in only 2 years. Heck over a 6 year period the ID.3 is cheaper if neither car is driven at all, just based on road taxes alone.

      • by haruchai ( 17472 )

        "In any case, the US needs more affordable EVs"
        Canada may be soon to get some from China although the 1st beneficiary of the new rules, if they pass, would be Tesla's Shanghai factory.

        • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

          They are great cars, and even if you don't want one yourself, they will force other manufacturers to up their game.

    • by registrations_suck ( 1075251 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @07:02AM (#65771942)

      Were there any OTHER countries that had a federal tax credit of $7500 expire at the end of September?

    • by dbialac ( 320955 )
      Given that it's a US publication, I think it's safe to say it was implied.
  • by Sique ( 173459 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @06:28AM (#65771896) Homepage
    In all countries, where tax credits ended or were reduced, we saw the same pattern: people wanting an EV will buy early to qualify for the expiring tax credit, creating a short boom, and then there will be a period, when only a few people will buy EVs, and then it will normalize again. We had the same in Norway 10 years ago, we had it in Germany two years ago, it will be a short break and then pick up again.
    • by GooberPyle ( 9014301 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @06:48AM (#65771924)
      Once battery plants are running in the USA the outlook will improve. Costs will be lower and old NMC chemistries will be replaced. First LFP and later sodium, LMR, and eventually solid state batteries will dramatically change the EV landscape. The USA is a few years behind the state of the art so basing trends on currently available EVs misses the point.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @08:33AM (#65772052) Homepage Journal

        Do you think battery manufacturing really will spin up in the US?

        The current administration is hostile to anything that displaces coal and gas, so that's at least another 3 years of uncertainty and lack of support. Meanwhile everyone else surges ahead.

        I think the ship may well have sailed on that one, I'm afraid.

      • by tlhIngan ( 30335 ) <slashdot.worf@net> on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @08:43AM (#65772072)

        Once battery plants are running in the USA the outlook will improve.

        You might want to talk to some South Koreans who have vowed never to go back to the US after ICE arrested them, held them for a week in those detention centers, then deported them back to South Korea.

        Even worse, it was a MAGA happy government official that "tipped off" ICE. They were workers from Hyundai which were setting up a battery plant and EV manufacturing plant in Georgia who were there to oversee the construction and the training of American workers. So they were some of the top people around - engineers, scientists and others who all got rudely arrested and only sent back because the South Korean government begged for their return. Meanwhile over the week they were detained they were put in the most miserable detention environments around. So much so South Korea launched a human rights review of how they were treated.

        The Governor of Georgia and other high ranking state officials have been begging South Korea to let them return, but all but one wants to. There's a whole pile of jobs in a half-built pair of factories that are basically gone over someone's "deport the criminals" moment.

        So yeah, those battery plants might not come online anytime soon now that that incident scared away any possible investment

        • Re: (Score:2, Offtopic)

          by Targon ( 17348 )

          With any luck, once Trump is out of office, all of those people involved in the illegal activities by ICE will be charged with crimes, found guilty of breaking the law, and thrown in prison. That would go a long way to helping international relations.

          • by _merlin ( 160982 )

            Haha, that's never going to happen.

          • by flink ( 18449 )

            Yeah, they all need to go to the Hague, but that will never happen...

          • With any luck, once Trump is out of office, all of those people involved in the illegal activities by ICE will be charged with crimes, found guilty of breaking the law, and thrown in prison.

            That requires a sense of urgency that the Dems have failed show. Garland was known to be someone who would not be quick to act. Many of Biden's actions came too late in his presidency to have a meaningful impact.

          • Every American president since Carter has been a war criminal.

            If you're expecting accountability, revise your expectations.

        • You might want to talk to some South Koreans who have vowed never to go back to the US after ICE arrested them, held them for a week in those detention centers, then deported them back to South Korea.

          If they were here illegally WTF did you expect would happen to them....?

      • What makes you think the batteries produced locally will be cheaper? I don't think there's any reason to think that.

    • by skam240 ( 789197 )

      The drop in sales is in comparing October of last year to October of this year so this decline isn't from any buying surge.

      • It still might be. You have to take into account what the sales were in September of this year compared to September of last year. If October sales were 3000 lower than last year, but September sales were 3000 higher than last year, then that's zero total change.
        • by skam240 ( 789197 )

          You have to take into account what the sales were in September of this year compared to September of last year. If October sales were 3000 lower than last year, but September sales were 3000 higher than last year, then that's zero total change.

          What? Why do you "have" to do that? Are you trying to juice the numbers to get a result you want or something?

          • by Dragonslicer ( 991472 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @08:11AM (#65772030)
            Because if almost everyone who would have bought a car in October bought one in September instead, a decline from October last year to October this year doesn't mean that EV sales are plummeting, it just means that a lot of people bought a car a month earlier than they otherwise would have.

            If you can't understand that, I don't know how else to explain it.
      • The actual statement in the article is that the decline cause is the end of the tax credit, not the surge.

        What is obvious is that the surge in sales in the last couple of months makes the drop seems even more significant.

        Anyway, even specialists are saying that people - knowing the credits would end - anticipated buying an EV, this also helped to cause a drop in sales in October. Which makes sense.

        https://insideevs.com/news/777... [insideevs.com]

      • by Targon ( 17348 )

        It can be, because there is the front-loading of sales. Oh, the prices will go up in two months, so buy now is something you see all around the world. Companies like Intel and NVIDIA also have done it, they encourage sales in Q1, then you see the sales drop like a rock for Q2 and Q3 and even Q4 in some cases. We knew about tariffs back in February of this year, and many of us knew they were going to cause prices to go up, so people actually purchased stuff in January and February, even when we wouldn'

    • by shilly ( 142940 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @08:09AM (#65772026)

      While that's true, this isn't the only lever the Trump administration is pulling in its attempt to shift Americans back towards ICE vehicles. There's also tariff and non-tariff barriers, ICE raids, planning delays for plants chargers etc, removal of chargers, removal of funding for charging networks, etc etc. All accompanied by giant doses of propaganda from the bully pulpit and its amplifiers.

      It is easier to break than fix, and the Trump admin is doing its very absolute damndest to break EV purchases.

      I think there's a non-trivial chance that they succeed, and the net result will be a decoupling of the US automotive sector from the entire rest of the world, and a permanent reduction in US competitiveness as a result from the economic and other impacts.

      I've been a big fan of Heinlein ever since I was a teenager. Up till about five years ago, I thought his hard science fiction was where he was most prescient. But now it's his description of the collapse of the American state that seems most accurate: from Scudder to headlines dominated by stupidity. He would, I'm sure, be horrified but unsurprised by what's happened.

    • Furthermore, a similar pattern is in the process of happening with tariffs. The month before the first wave of tariffs hit had the largest amount of foreign imports in history, because everyone pulled in their orders. Then the month after tariffs hit, imports dropped like a rock, as expected, because everyone had high inventory and prices were higher. What we haven't seen yet is 1) what the long term tariffs will actually be, because unlike EVs, where everyone assumes the natural subsidy rate is zero, the n
  • Blew their load (Score:5, Insightful)

    by DrMrLordX ( 559371 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @06:29AM (#65771898)

    Take the Q3 sales for EVs, cut them in half, and spread them out over Q3 and Q4. There, now you have a clear picture of what sales would probably have been like (or maybe a few % higher) had EV subsidies stayed in place. People who were planning to buy an EV in the latter half of 2025 went ahead and did so before Sept 30th.

  • Subsidy goes down, sales go down.

    No big mysteries here!

    I always miss the "sale price" on shit. Seems like despite my best efforts, whenever I need to spend a lot of money on something, I always miss the sale and have to pay full price.

    In this case, I'd be so distraught over missing out on a free $7500, I might NEVER buy an EV. I might not be able to get away from holding on to hope that the "sales price" might come back in the future.

  • Obviously, this isn't the full picture..

    Yeah. We see the full picture every day. When we drive by every American new car lot and see how full they are. Your COVID-infected MSRP+FU pricing made that clear. And you greedy fucks deserve nothing less. Fuck your heated seat subscriptions. Fuck your proprietary infotainment. Fuck your touchscreen-everything.

    Too Big To Fail? Good luck trying that shit again. If the wealthiest of tree huggers can still find a reason to own a private jet, the rest of society coukd care less about supporting EV

  • by SouthSeb ( 8814349 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @07:53AM (#65772018)

    Having lived the last 50+ years knowing the US as the leading country in innovation and technological advancement, it truly astounds me how the situation seems to have completely reversed now.

    The shift to clean energy is not only a matter of environmental preservation but also of economic progress. Americans seem to be voluntarily and stubbornly choosing to stay out of this movement.

    What this means is an increasing divide between the US market and the rest of the world, significantly reducing the space for American industries and the country's influence on global trade.

    And, paradoxically, this only worsens the US position in relation to China, the very scenario that the same people who reject clean energy fear so much.

    • Americans value their freedom. Owning an EV today seems to be sacrificing freedom.
      • Domestically producing the fuel for my vehicle seems more "free" than relying on potentially hostile middle eastern countries.

        • And when you can go away from home without planning/stress about where you are going to charge next and for how long it will be. But right now people are more concerned about their immediate needs and getting through day to day life than where the fuel comes from. Also 60% of your gas comes from Canada, believe it or not.
          • You can go away from home without planning or stress about where you need to charge or how long it will take - most daily journeys are much shorter than the range of typical EVs. So it's more about how willing people are to be subservient to those who have told them to think of it as sacrificing freedom.

      • I get people's more immediate concerns. But that is exactly why the country (through politicians, companies and governments) should encourage and invest on innovation that lead to better outcomes, not demonize and setting it back.

        This reminds of the famous Ford quote: “If I had asked people what they wanted, they would have said faster horses.”

        As I said, what most Americans seems to be actively fighting against it right now, is exactly what could drive them towards several more decades of global

      • I have freedom to travel - been road tripped all over the US since getting my 1st Model 3 in 2018. My folks enjoyed the trips they'd taken with me so much that they bought a Model Y. We typically take a 2700 mile round trip each year to visit family in Wisconsin. We took my folks' Model Y on our longest trip so far: [x.com] 5000 miles to Yellowstone, onto Tacoma Washington to visit family, then back to Houston.

        I also have energy freedom - 99% of my charging is now done via the solar panels on my roof by using Tes

    • A black president broke peoples' brains so badly they created the TEA party which then morphed into MAGA.

    • That's what's happening. Back in 1965 when Barry Goldwater lost the wealthiest people in our country decided they had enough of democracy and began a decade's long plan to do away with it. They weren't shy and they didn't hide it. The media didn't exactly go out if it's way to cover it but a little bit of googling and you can find the quotes and the discussion.

      What you're seeing is the culmination of 60 years of attacks on democracy. It's a fundamental breaking of every single check and balance and ever
    • "Having lived the last 50+ years knowing the US as the leading country in innovation and technological advancement, it truly astounds me how the situation seems to have completely reversed now."

      We are over-saturated with change. Too much too fast. It may be different for you personally, but few of these changes have been for the better. Enshitification or more politely encrapification are words now. Landfills are overflowing, fast fashion has polyester fibers blowing everywhere, and now you want to scrap ev

      • You, sir, are the very example of what I was talking about.

        So many false premises, so much bitterness about "change". It's ok to any person to feel anxious about changing. As an old man I surely have my anxieties, too.

        But that shouldn't be the driving motivation for a country. It certainly wasn't for the rest of US history.

        The US could be leading the way in this immensely important change. But I see many of you (my US counterparts in this forum) actively fighting against it and then being frightened (and ev

    • Having lived the last 50+ years knowing the US as the leading country in innovation and technological advancement, it truly astounds me how the situation seems to have completely reversed now.

      What's happening is that the Republican plan for decades is being fulfilled. During the Reagan administration they began compromising education in order to produce low-information voters, the actual phrase was they were trying to eliminate the "educated proletariat" and they succeeded. Now enough Americans are dumber than dogshit for them to sell fascism as freedom. We've maintained our technological advantage until now by importing educated people from other countries, but now that we're abusing anyone who

    • Everyone in charge figured out they already have enough yachts, so there's no need for progress or innovation.

  • by argStyopa ( 232550 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @08:46AM (#65772074) Journal

    I strongly considered a phev for my last purchased car in dec 24, the math didn't math.
    I expect eventually I will get an ev, but I still think they're a Veblenseque luxury* rather than a rationally good choice for most American drivers.

    • Veblenseque

      The crommulence of your word choice is most Aladeen.

      • Sorry, Thorsten Veblen was the one who wrote the book Conspicuous Consumption (where consumers make rational choices but it's about displaying things not efficiency with their money).

        Not sure there was an ELI5 way to say that for anyone bothering to read it.

    • Nearly every car sold in Norway is an EV now. They also have cold winters and long distances.

      • Re: (Score:2, Interesting)

        by argStyopa ( 232550 )

        They're also a fantastically wealthy petro state with a highly-educated population and a persistent culture of high conformity, collectivism, ecological responsibility, and social welfare most of which are features which have been famously hard to export to ... anywhere.

        And they are nearly entirely white making it extra ironic that their culture is so frequently touted as exemplary by leftists who simultaneously insist "white culture" is the source of everything wrong with the world.

        The racial distribution

    • by hipp5 ( 1635263 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @10:22AM (#65772284)

      I strongly considered a phev for my last purchased car in dec 24, the math didn't math. I expect eventually I will get an ev, but I still think they're a Veblenseque luxury* rather than a rationally good choice for most American drivers.

      I honestly don't understand why anyone buys a PHEV. They cost as much as a similarly trimmed EV, but you still have to do oil changes, coolant top ups, etc etc. It's the worst of both worlds.

      Well, I DO get it - people have range anxiety. But it's irrational.

  • by Ronin Developer ( 67677 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @09:01AM (#65772092)

    My EV6 GT Line on Aug 31 simply because I wanted the benefit of the $7500 incentive. It made the price of a car I could barely afford suddenly affordable...well...sorta. Never thought I'd see the day I would spend $56K on a car before the incentive!

    Now, I love the car. It's quick, has great range, and lots of cool features.

    But, WTF are cars, especially EVs, so darned expensive? $725/mo for 6 years is a big nut. I remember when $300/mo was high.

    And, while it's cheaper to charge than filling my former 12 yo car, it's not going to pay for itself.

    Sheesh

  • The last car I bought was 15 years ago and it cost me $500. I'm still driving it. 60mpg @ 60mph. Seats 4 adults. Easy to maintain. $100 a year on oil/filter/brakes. 2000 model Suzuki Swift 1.0l GL
    I don't know what brain rot you're all drinking but keep it away from me.
  • OMG who would have thought that a massive coupon expiring at the end of September would cause people to move purchases up. It's just shocking. Nobody could have seen this one coming, it's just unprecedented

  • The ugly truth (Score:5, Interesting)

    by Inglix the Mad ( 576601 ) on Tuesday November 04, 2025 @09:40AM (#65772156)
    that isn't clickbait is that a very large group of people, who were in the position to buy an EV and were looking, bought before the tax credit expired. Now you'll have hollowed out demand for a while as those people already purchased EV's.

    I mean, this isn't rocket science:

    Joe or Jane consumer is actively looking to purchase an EV in a month or two.

    Joe or Jane consumer see tax credit being eliminated and go, "I'mma get me that!"

    Joe or Jane consumer, and a bunch of their fellow car shoppers, buy EV before credits expire.

    October rolls around and the tax credit is gone, along with many of the near purchase consumers who bought while the tax credit was still active.
    • >> October rolls around and the tax credit is gone, along with many of the near purchase consumers who bought while the tax credit was still active.

      Not to mention the inventory is also gone. Not a single EV on the lot at any local dealer here.. I waited too long and they were all gone. I was going to buy an EV9 but now I have to wait until Kia backs the tax credit out of the price.

  • When all is said and done. About a quarter of their sales were dependent on the EV credit.

    This is on top of the cybertruck flopping ( it was always a pump and dump scam anyway), the loss of the indirect government subsidies from carbon credits bought by other car companies and Elon musk's current pay package being larger than all the money Tesla has ever made ever.

    Meanwhile Elon is trying to get a yet another pay package worth a literal trillion dollars.

    Right now the only reason the stock hasn't
  • If you can't afford a new one buy used, keep what you've got or use public transportation.

    Plus the US ought to be importing or making domestically the smaller models [carscoops.com] available in Southeast Asia and South America.

  • Since the sales surged in september, and "plummeted" in October, what really matters is the sum of Sept and Oct, relative to the same period the previous year.

This process can check if this value is zero, and if it is, it does something child-like. -- Forbes Burkowski, CS 454, University of Washington

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