Iran War Provides a Large-Scale Test For AI-Assisted Warfare 113
An anonymous reader quotes a report from Bloomberg, written by Katrina Manson: The U.S. strikes on Iran ordered by President Donald Trump mark the arrival on a large scale of a new era of warfare assisted by artificial intelligence. Captain Timothy Hawkins, a Central Command spokesperson, told me last night that the AI tools the U.S. military is using in Iran operations don't make targeting decisions and don't replace humans. But they do help "make smarter decisions faster." That's been the driving ambition of the U.S. military, which has spent years looking at how to develop and deploy AI to the battlefield [...].
Critics, such as Stop Killer Robots, a coalition of 270 human-rights groups, argue that AI-enabled decision-support systems reduce the separation between recommending and executing a strike to a "dangerously thin" line. Hawkins said the military's use of AI assistance follows a rigorous process aligned with U.S. policy, military doctrine and the law. Artificial intelligence helps analysts whittle down what they need to focus on, generating so-called points of interest and helping personnel make "smart" decisions in the Iran operations, he told me. AI is also helping to pull data within systems and organize information to provide clarity.
Among the AI tech used in the Iran campaign is Maven Smart System, a digital mission control platform produced by Palantir [...]. That emerged from Project Maven, a project started in 2017 by the Pentagon to develop AI for the battlefield. Among the large language models installed on the system is Anthropic's Claude AI tool, according to the people, who said it has become central to U.S. operations against Iran and to accelerating Maven's development. Claude is also at the center of a row that pits Anthropic against the Department of Defense over limits on the software. Further reading: Hacked Tehran Traffic Cameras Fed Israeli Intelligence Before Strike On Khamenei
Critics, such as Stop Killer Robots, a coalition of 270 human-rights groups, argue that AI-enabled decision-support systems reduce the separation between recommending and executing a strike to a "dangerously thin" line. Hawkins said the military's use of AI assistance follows a rigorous process aligned with U.S. policy, military doctrine and the law. Artificial intelligence helps analysts whittle down what they need to focus on, generating so-called points of interest and helping personnel make "smart" decisions in the Iran operations, he told me. AI is also helping to pull data within systems and organize information to provide clarity.
Among the AI tech used in the Iran campaign is Maven Smart System, a digital mission control platform produced by Palantir [...]. That emerged from Project Maven, a project started in 2017 by the Pentagon to develop AI for the battlefield. Among the large language models installed on the system is Anthropic's Claude AI tool, according to the people, who said it has become central to U.S. operations against Iran and to accelerating Maven's development. Claude is also at the center of a row that pits Anthropic against the Department of Defense over limits on the software. Further reading: Hacked Tehran Traffic Cameras Fed Israeli Intelligence Before Strike On Khamenei
Obviouis question no one asked the AI (Score:2)
Hey, [Musk's pet] GROK:
How difficult is it to sink a big oil tanker trapped in a narrow strait?
The answer may not surprise you, though I was kind of surprised by the humor of one of the YOB's proposed answers. The captains of the tankers don't want government insurance for the case when their ship sank. They want ASSURANCE that they won't get sunk. "No sale." No one can provide that.
Color the Strait of Hormuz closed.
Not to be solved by renaming it the Strait of America.
C'mon, whatagottado for a Funny around
Re:Obvious question no one asked the AI (Score:2)
*sigh*
Is there an easy way to get the Subject included in the spelling check?
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google spellcheck for all text fields firefox
find https://www.reddit.com/r/firef... [reddit.com]
Set layout.spellcheckDefault to 2
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Thanks, though I'm probably still not going to look directly at Reddit. I think the real key to your answer is "all text fields" and I wonder how you got there... I haven't messed with those settings for a long time, but it looks promising.
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I think the real key to your answer is "all text fields" and I wonder how you got there...
I knew that they were different kinds of text fields because I've done HTML forms before, and I knew that spellcheck only applied to some of them so a reasonable thing to ask for was for it to be applied to all. Choosing the search terms is just good old prompt engineering. I didn't even know if what you wanted was possible, but I imagined that it might be since firefox has a lot of settings and it also sounded like a cool thing to turn on.
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You're welcome?
However I'm also annoyed that I didn't remember the field attributes from ancient days of HTML programming...
Re: Not AI-"Assisted" (Score:2)
We were bombing schools on our own before AI.
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A machine can never be held accountable, therefor a machine must make every targeting decision.
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Re: Not AI-"Assisted" (Score:2)
This issue with machine made decisions is kind of the same issue with a committee, which have historically refused to accept accountability for their decisions.
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Was that before laser-guided bombs and such? In that era, the inherent inaccuracy of the weapons gave plausible deniability that you intended to hit to school. Modern munitions are so accurate that that doesn't apply anymore. Now they have a new out: "The computer targeted the school."
Re:Not AI-"Assisted" (Score:5, Insightful)
Akin to that, the undersec of the DoD, the day-to-day manager in effect, was questioned in the Senate recently about decisions within DoD. He couldn't answer basic questions and eventually fell back into "l'll have to check my decision matrix" when asked if la Presidenta was giving orders or was Dogbreath.
Actually we know la Presidenta isn't really in charge, his Alzheimer's prevents him from stringing together two coherent sentences, his jumping from "topic" to "topic" reveals he's got little mental control left. Those bruises on his hand are probably from Leqembi, which is an Alzheimer's drug; it is administered intravenously.
Dogbreath is living in a G.I. Joe cartoon. They were stupid enough channel Putin on war. Puiin listened to the spooks and never paid attention to logistics. Spooks do not do logistics. Russia's invasion failed because of logistics. And Maggots do not do logistics either. Hence la Presidenta and Dogbreath are asking in some defense contractors about increasing weapons production. They shot their wad and now are having difficulty getting it up.
So la Presidenta is treating the U.S. like his "companies". He always destroys what he touches: his "companies", even his Maggot faithful are whinging about how he lied to them and this isn't what they voted for (Nick Fuentes and Alex Jones among others). He is precisely what they voted for, they were just too stupid to think of where it would lead. He's destroyed the Kennedy Center, the White House, NiH and CDC, the State Dept., the confidence our former allies had in the U.S. (no longer, and they cannot even be sure Americans won't vote in another imbecile in the future, the trust will never return). He fucked Ukraine and is now begging them for help in fighting off the drones. He and his alleged administration, especially Dogbreath, never thought that the drones Iran supplied Russia for use in Ukraine would be used on the rest of the Middle East. ICE is setting up a surveillance system in the U.S. that can track all Americans, and they are building concentration camps and warehouses to put the "undesirables".
The American economy is cratering. The bill for the Epstein-Iran war is giving Republican eunuchs in Congress indigestion. And if those Arab regimes' economies get destroyed, like la Presidenta is doing to America's, then they deserve it for supporting that moron.
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they cannot even be sure Americans won't vote in another imbecile in the future,
I have no confidence the next president will be better than Trump. We are a reality-TV nation now, and that won't change.
Re: Not AI-"Assisted" (Score:2)
I think it depends (Score:4, Interesting)
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Color me dubious on that one. But how about using a deep net to recognize what kind of aircraft has a given radar signature? It's not "decision-making" as people think of it, but it really kinda is - and could raise the probability of an aircraft being deemed a target or not and ultimately shot at.
Re: I think it depends (Score:4, Insightful)
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We work with Palantir in the office. Palantir is also part of the USA MIC so it definitely has these things available to military. We deployed a machine learning algorithm of theirs to predict maintenance requirements of machines based on past documented performance and previous documented failures, and it was hugely successful. This system went live in 2011 (15 years ago).
Yes I guarantee you the military has been using this sort of AI already. Trained models are not new.
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1950s actually-existing AI, or 1950s sci-fi AI?
Re: Someone bombed a school next to a navy base (Score:4, Insightful)
What business have the aggressors bombing anything over there? Has the trumpistan lost anything in Iran?
Perhaps your war criminals are looking for the test tube of Colin Powell and the rest of the "WMDs" that you hallucinated back in 2003?
Re: Someone bombed a school next to a navy base (Score:2)
In the same dustbin where I keep the rest of the war criminals' propaganda.
The current regime is a direct consequence of your trumpistani "warfighters" in Iran's internal affairs.
Where is your outrage about that, eh?
Oh, by the way, how's that "regime change" in Venezuela going, I hear your team is now "dealing" with the same people that administered it in December last year and calling them the "good guys".
Almost as if it was a special military operation to steal some oil.
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America is currently fixing the problem.
LOL, no, trumpistan is destroying the country on behalf of bibi the terrorist, like you destroyed Iraq in 2003. Trumpistan has no capacity of "fixing a problem", because it is only interested in one thing - getting the oil. Remind me, which party is ruling Venezuela? Are "free elections" on order there soon?
As for Iran, your moron chieftains donnie the grifter, little marco the Cuban Commie child and kegsaid the wifebeater are so shallow and out of ideas, that they're repeating the same shit the country for
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LOL, what a comeback.
Riddle me this, why are the trumpistani "war fighters" still war fighting if the chieftain moron declared the mission accomplished?
And why are the bibi war criminals bombing Iran's oil infrastructure, does it produce plutonium?
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And your outrage a month ago when the Iranians killed 100x as many innocent people...
Why would the outrage be the same? There's a very big difference between an oppressive regime killing their own, and an oppressive regime starting a war on the other side of the planet. What happened in Iran was despicable, but I am significantly more outraged at the actions of the USA.
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And your outrage a month ago when the Iranians killed 100x as many innocent people...
I would say, what about it?
Iran didn't want to stop developing nuclear weapons. So someone stopped them. What's your problem with that?
I'm confused, the war guys told me they took care of all that nuclear stuff last year. Completely obliterated the program.
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I'm hoping you have a massive banner reading "Mission Re-Accomplished" behind you as you're saying this.
Re: Someone bombed a school next to a navy base (Score:2)
Use the "ok putins" label on bibi and the guy he has by the balls with the Epstein videos, darling, they are running a "special military operation" for Iran's oil and not me.
I'm not convinced it wasn't deliberate (Score:5, Insightful)
Trump is clearly hoping for a terrorist attack on US Soil. Something like 9/11. He saw what it did for Bush Jr's poll numbers and he wants that. There are texts from Jeffery Epstein where he talks about Trump doing exactly that. Basically "If I go down I'm taking you all with me" is Trump's mentality and always has been.
It's probably why Trump has survived ripping off rich people several times. He's got dirt on them all and they're not sure they could arrange a "suicide" before he spilled the beans.
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The accuracy of the strikes is inconsistent with a mistake. See https://www.cnn.com/2026/03/06... [cnn.com]
The administration also had about to year to vet the initial targets. See https://phillipspobrien.substa... [substack.com]
Re: Someone bombed a school next to a navy base (Score:1)
So again: is vetting of targets improved or degraded with the use of this nebulously defined ai in the mix or does it not matter?
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The accuracy of the strikes is inconsistent with a mistake.
No, that's simply untrue.
It's inconsistent with a miss of the actual target- that school was the target.
It is not inconsistent with mistaken selection of the target.
The administration also had about to year to vet the initial targets.
I don't think this administration's reliability in any metric changes from 1 month to 100 years. They're incompetent through-and-through.
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This makes absolutely no sense.
It's called bad intel, and it happens on day 1, day 56, or day 1000.
Your armchair evaluation is idiotic.
Re: Someone bombed a school next to a navy base (Score:2)
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What is the source of these "facts"? Islamic regime TV?
I get my news from Iran International [iranintl.com], and there is nothing there about kids being killed. Other Iranian podcasters did report IRGC troops moving into schools hoping that they won't be bombed. Most Iranians have not been sending their kids to school even before this war started
Re: Someone bombed a school next to a navy base (Score:2)
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The website www.iranintl.com is the online home of Iran International, a Persian-language news television channel headquartered in London.
According to corporate records and multiple investigative reports, the ownership and management of the outlet are structured as follows:
Ownership
Volant Media UK Ltd: This is the parent company that owns Iran International.
Beneficial Ownership
let's play global thermonuclear war (Score:2)
let's play global thermonuclear war
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Anthropic, you say? (Score:2)
slashdot troll killbot (Score:4, Interesting)
Can't wait for my visit from the Slashdot Troll Killbot.
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Yeah, whatever (Score:5, Interesting)
The US clearly has overwhelming strength compared to Iran. And woo-woo high-tech! But, the USA is going to lose this war.
Why? Because the US has no clearly-defined goals. All the regime needs to do is survive, which it will: In the entire history of warfare, there has never been a regime change brought about by airstrikes alone. That will be a win for the regime and a loss for the USA. And it's always the loser who decides when a war is over, so if the USA makes that decision... it's the loser.
Israel is probably the only country that will benefit from this; it will have a couple of greatly weakened adversaries in Hezbollah and Iran.
Re:Yeah, whatever (Score:5, Insightful)
Because the US has no clearly-defined goals.
The goal is to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons. The secondary objective is to prevent them from rebuilding their rocket supply. The third objective is to remove their support for terrorist proxies around the region.
The bonus objective is regime change.
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You're sane-washing Trump's behavior. He is not a strategist - he does not think like this.
I didn't say Trump is sane. Trump is doing a good job impersonating an insane person. Poe's law applies to him.
The objectives seem clear [youtube.com].
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Long but good video on how this is all extremely likely to end very badly [youtube.com].
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The main thing that should have been discussed more deeply is potential Chinese aggression, which is flashing bright red warning lights right now.
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Also, your facts about nuclear threats are made up by some criminal named Netanyahu.
I didn't say anything about nuclear threats. Learn to read.
As for the Iran war, it is concerning that a single country is willing to unilaterally attack others.
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Certain countries feel threatened by other countries merely having nuclear weapons. That's the threat being used as casus belli.
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Pretty dangerous casus belli. It would justify attacks on the USA.
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So your idea is that Iran wasn't trying to develop nuclear weapons? That it was all made up by Netenyahu?
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Probably Iran was trying to develop them. This all could have been prevented had the USA under Trump 1 not pulled out of the JCPOA agreement.
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Sucks to be the nearby countries who were supporting them all this time.
Nearby countries weren't supporting Iran.
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Aside from the GENUINE announcements by Iran's leaders about their
- goals for nuclear weapons
- willingness to use nukes when they have them
- impending development of nuclear weapons
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Yeah, sure, I guess this is entirely made up.
If Trump was using this to distract from Epstein, why did the US bomb iran some weeks ago, and then essentially shift forces OUT of the region to other theaters? Why not stay on-subject with Iran then?
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Remember, Trump said that the USA "obliterated" Iran's nuclear capability back in June 2025.
If every single rocket is destroyed, and every single rocket factory too, Iran will be back building more rockets within 12 months of the end of the war. It's a country of 90 million people. It has the resources to rebuild.
Removing support for terrorist proxies is a good goal. But again, it will merely introduce a pause, not a halt.
Regime change is not a bonus objective. It is the only objective that will allo
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Trump's real reason is personal. He wanted to get Khamanei because Khamanei tried to get him.
The matrix has a glitch.
Bush: "After all this is the guy who tried to kill my dad"
Trump: "I got him before he got me"
It is infeasible to say what Trump's "real reason" was. People can only guess. Trump is a pathological liar and his statements are for the most part meaningless and profoundly lack self-consistency.
Regime change is not a bonus objective. It is the only objective that will allow the other three to be achieved. And since regime change will fail, all of the objectives will fail.
There is no guarantee of anything. The vast majority of Iranians favors a change to democracy.
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Of course, Iranians want democracy. I have many Iranian friends and I understand their desire to overthrow the yoke of the Islamic Republic dictatorship that has made their lives miserable for 47 years.
But the regime is too resilient to fall to a few assassinations or even airstrikes. Unless the USA is willing to invade Iran with boots on the ground, this regime will survive. And therefore, none of the stated objectives will be met.
And if the USA expects Iranians to rise up against the government, th
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The goal is to prevent Iran from developing nuclear weapons.
Reich wingers have been trying to sell this story for decades. You think you're the one who's going to manage it?
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If you believe that Iran was not actually trying to get nuclear weapons, then Trump picked a good objective. Easy to achieve an objective that's already been accomplished.
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It certainly worked to get us into war the last time, but this time nobody else believed it.
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1) "Iraq is supporting terrorists!" Nobody believed it.
2) "Iraq is trying to build nuclear weapons!" Almost nobody believed it. There were some aluminum tubes transferred.
3) "Iraq is trying to get weapons of mass destruction!" Almost no one believed it.
4) "The president has secret information that he can't tell us!" 60% of the population (especially congress) believed it, because 9/11.
In the end it turned out that the Soviets prevented Ameri
Israel's Holy War (Score:2)
If we are to infer their goals by the effects of their actions, genocidal intent is not incongruent. That they bombed the school immediately during the first wave of attacks seems to be designed to send a message.
Israel is obviously a huge motivator and beneficiary of the war. We didn't need Secretary of State Marco Rubio to tell us that, but he did, and was very quickly shut up by his daddy in the white house.
There need not be any other goal for these people besides killing Muslims. It doesn't stop at the
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In the absence of a coherent explanation, we can only attempt to interpret the words given to us by our leaders.
Re: Yeah, whatever (Score:2)
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Russia probably just lost their supplier of Iranian-built drones.
Russia has been building its own drones for some time. Once they got their hands on Iranian drones they reverse-engineered them. They've since been upgraded with Russian tech.
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Your information is several years out of datw. They have a licensed production facility in Yelabuga and have notmused Iran made ones for quite a while. Matter of fact, putler profits from this war because not only the oil price went up, the orange shitgibbon also made sure that China cannot get oil from anywhere else beside Russia.
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Otherwise known as a "supply chain attack." China is now almost entirely dependent on Russian oil. Guess what...
Claude? (Score:2)
Didn't Trump tell everybody in this government to stop using it? Didn't the pentagon blacklist Anthropic?
Where is the Board of Peace when you need it? (Score:2)
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It got bored of peace.
Re: Where is the Board of Peace when you need it? (Score:2)
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It's a toss-up who has a longer attention span... Trump or a house fly.
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The Religion of Peace vs. The President of Peace... funny there doesn't seem to be much peace.
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Re: Where is the Board of Peace when you need it? (Score:2)
no funny here (Score:2)
really disappointed this juicy story had not funny.
Wrong Objective Function (Score:2)
My objection to these decision systems is that they frequently use the wrong objective function. Does the patient have cancer or not? Maximizing the probability of a correct answer is the wrong objective function. If a the patient is told they have cancer and they do not, there is a cost involved, a more expensive, invasive test. If the patient is told they do not have cancer and they do, the patients life has been put at risk, a much higher cost. Is that a car full of terrorists or a wedding party? Decide