Gtk+ and Glib 1.2.0 released 73
FsckYou writes "gtk+ and glib 1.2.0 just got released,
so now GNOME can use it instead 1.1.x. " Whole lotta
that GNOME stuff getting new versions these days.
The best defense against logic is ignorance.
At last - some stability (Score:1)
I found that after any major pruning of
This means that now when any new GLIB or GTK is released the soname with always be the same. Less recompiling!
Summary of new features? (Score:1)
newbie question (Score:1)
Mirrors (Score:2)
Mirror Sites------------
Africa
ftp://ftp.is.co.za/applications/gimp/
Australia
ftp://ftp.au.gimp.org/pub/gimp/ ftp://gimp.zeta.org.au/
ftp://ftp.progsoc.uts.edu.au/pub/
Austria
ftp://gd.tuwien.ac.at/graphics/gimp/
Belgium
ftp://gimp.rug.ac.be/ http://gimp.rug.ac.be/ftp/ (web access)
Crotia
ftp://ftp.linux.hr/pub/gnome/
Finland
ftp://ftp.funet.fi/pub/sci/graphics/packages/gimp
France
ftp://stef.u-picardie.fr/mirror/ftp.gimp.org/
ftp://ftp.minet.net/pub/gimp/
Germany
ftp://infosoc.uni-koeln.de/pub/ftp.gimp.org/
Greece
ftp://sunsite.ics.forth.gr/sunsite/pub/gimp/
Italy
ftp://ftp.psy.unipd.it/pub/linux/ftp.gimp.org/
ftp://linux.keycomm.it/pub/linux/ftp.gimp.org/
Japan
ftp://SunSITE.sut.ac.jp/pub/archives/packages/gim
ftp://ftp.u-aizu.ac.jp/pub/graphics/tools/gimp/
ftp://ring.aist.go.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/
ftp://ring.asahi-net.or.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/
ftp://ring.so-net.ne.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/
ftp://ring.nacsis.ac.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/
http://ring.aist.go.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ (web access)
http://ring.asahi-net.or.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ (web access)
http://ring.so-net.ne.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ (web access)
http://ring.nacsis.ac.jp/pub/graphics/gimp/ (web access)
Korea
ftp://ftp.kreonet.re.kr/pub/tools/X11/ftp.gimp.or
Poland
ftp://ftp.tuniv.szczecin.pl/pub/Linux/gimp
ftp://sunsite.icm.edu.pl/pub/graphics/gimp
Romania
ftp://ftp.kappa.ro/pub/mirrors/mirrors-2/ftp.gi
Sweden
ftp://ftp.acc.umu.se/pub/gimp ftp://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/
http://ftp.sunet.se/pub/gnu/gimp/ (web access)
Taiwan
ftp://linux.cis.nctu.edu.tw/pub/packages/X/gimp/
Turkey
ftp://ftp.hun.edu.tr/pub/linux/gimp
http://ayna.hun.edu.tr/ayna/www.gimp.org (web)
United Kingdom
ftp://ftp.flirble.org/pub/X/gimp/ ftp://ftp.lmh.ox.ac.uk/pub/linux/
United States
ftp://ftp.insync.net/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/
ftp://ftp.cs.umn.edu/pub/gimp/
ftp://hal.res.wpi.net/mirror/ftp.gimp.org/
ftp://froody.res.cmu.edu/pub/gimp/ ftp://ftp.randomc.com/pub/mirrors/gimp/
ftp://gimp.cs.stevens-tech.edu/mirrors/gimp/
ftp://gimp.chillin.org/pub/gimp.org-mirror/ (down until Sept. 1)
ftp://ftp.ameth.org/pub/mirrors/ftp.gimp.org/
http://www.ameth.org/gimp/ (web access)
Gtk still lacks important things, we'll get there! (Score:2)
Gtk+ is quite nice, but :
1) Keybindings must be improved much more.
2) Keep down flickering
3) Unify the widget properties
But it is a awesome improvement over 1.0
What a coincidence... (Score:1)
Dont't let the conspiracy buffs get to you
What a coincidence... (Score:1)
Linux kernel in C++ ? (Score:1)
Joy of Joys GUI programming in C! (Score:1)
You don't need to use or want GNOME to use Gtk.
Secondly, Gtk-- tracks Gtk development closely.
And third, there are Gtk bindings for at least a dozen languages, including Free Pascal, ADA, Eiffel, and Python, most of which are far preferable to crufty old C++.
It should also be pointed out that Motif has been the most used widget set on unix systems, and that is a C toolkit.
Summary is at www.gtk.org. (Score:1)
Re: one thing i hate... (Score:1)
one thing i hate... (Score:1)
Daniel
Augh! (Score:1)
Daniel
Joy of Joys GUI programming in C! (Score:1)
Most people want C++, Java, VB, or Pascal for GUI programming.
Does anyone on the Linux team realize that most of the world's development is not in Linux?
Most people want Windows for development.
See how ridiculous that sounds? Just because something is different doesn't make it bad. While I'll admit that object-oriented languages are far better suited to GUI development, I honestly think the GTK+/GNOME team made the right choice with C. Why? Because it is much easier to develop bindings for other languages, including object-oriented ones, in C. For those who don't believe me, I'd like to point out that the first C++ compilers weren't compilers at all; they "compiled" the code to C and =ran it through a C compiler. Eiffel compilers still do this, and Eiffel is much more object-oriented than C++. The point: yes, programming "straight" GTK isn't as easy, on account of the fact that it's in C. However, it's much more flexible in the area of language bindings.
Oh, and by the way, you're overestimating the importance of version numbers. Simply because GTK+ is at version 1.2 does not necessarily mean that GTK-- has to be at the same version number, even if it supports version 1.2 (though I do think that this would be a wise decision on the part of the GTK-- team). Version numbers really only mean one thing: that the programmer decided to give the program that number.
newbie question (Score:1)
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CDE?? (Score:1)
It's ugly and lacks all those cool features
you get with OSS counterparts, but it gives me less hassle than to try to install and configure
stuff by myself -> I get more real work done.
-T
Summary of new features? (Score:1)
Gtk-- (which I work on) is currently in beta after a rather long infancy period. We intend to release a 1.0 cut with the next month.
GL support for Gtk is very good. You can render direcly in a window or in a pixmap. See GtkGLArea [student.oulu.fi] for more details.
There is even a GL widget in the Gtk-- project. It will be a week or two before it is up to date with the gtk+ 1.2 (basically because it has the largest number of dependencies). If you are interested drop by the GtkGLArea-- [ucdavis.edu] website.
--Karl
Gtk-- Contributor
One more check for RedHat 6 (Score:1)
This is one more "check" for the RedHat 6.0 wish list!
I have waiting this 1.2 since far ago.
Congratulations to the gtk+ team!
C-ya
Oliver
GIMP and GTK themes (Score:1)
It works fine without it, either using the default theme or picking up the theme fom ~/.gtkrc
Chris Wareham
Yea, stable libs! (Score:1)
Less to worry about now
one thing i hate... (Score:1)
Now that Gtk+-1.2 is out, hopefully everybody will fix those last little incompatibilities, and we can be back to having one active version of the library. *sigh*
Updating an SRPM (Score:1)
Linux kernel in C++ ? (Score:1)
one of the kernel-lists, apparently. You might be able to dig it up.
A non-coding GIMP user question... (Score:1)
I went through the documentation to see if this was announced by a banner-trailing airplane, but it wasn't...
I'd love to play with Gnome when it's stable (haven't touched it since 0.20) but I don't want to affect the Gimp (1.0?), which is my primary app.
Can I update to 1.2 and keep using my 1.0? Gimp?
I know there are ways to keep a 1.0? GTK and a later revision on the same machine, but I'm not a bleeding-edge kind of guy. I just want to use a stable Gimp, and I don't want to drop that for Gnome.
This may be a dopey question, but I'm not ashamed to announce that when it comes to this stuff, I'm just Joe Endluser.
Jeez. I feel like I've outed myself right on the pages of Slashdot.
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"Give me $20 worth of pudding, or kill me."
At last - some stability (Score:1)
I should recompile the GIMP and other GTK based
programs whenever newer version of GTK/GLIB came
out.
There are some inconvenience with GTK.
1. The different so name.
2. higher versions of GTK/GLIB can't embrace
lower versions. ( no compatibility, not at
all though. )
I wish someday it will be solved completely.
one thing i hate... (Score:1)
People, if binary distros and rpm's are ever going to catch on, you have to release programs that are forward- and backward- compatible with different versions of commonly used libs. And I consider gtk and glib commonly used at this point, even if they are development (1.1.x) versions. It's probably a PITA to do this, cause development libs change alot, but sheesh, anyone who has ever tried to install GNOME and any other GTK app in existance from rpm's knows what I mean.
Until these problems are solved, "use the source, luke" will be the only truly failsafe way to install.
can't wait for 1.3 (Score:1)
1.3 will rock.
I heard they'll rewrite the entry and text widgets for unicode BiDi,
besides, development versions are the best.
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What a coincidence... (Score:1)
If those of us who are presently stuck with Win95/98 at work are ever to get a chance to use Linux in our US corporate workplaces, it will likely be due to the tremendous efforts and integrity of Red Hat Software.
...damn' I am strident in the morning!
G
Avoid TGZ's ! (Score:1)
SmartInstall at http://www.iae.nl/users/grimaldo/OpenSoft/
that keeps a small dbase of all your compiled and installed sources. You can do a install -E foobar
to clean out installed packages. install -L all
lists all your efforts. recommendations for all
compile-freaks....
Mirror Sites? (Score:1)
Does anyone have a list of mirror sites they
could post?
Thanks!
Gnome sucks (Score:1)
-Shawn