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Pawee wrote in to
note that GNOME has appeared
over at Download.com.
Interesting new mirror I guess. Wonder what other open source
stuff will pop up now.
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...assuming, of course, that they keep their mirror up-to-date. ftp.gnome.org is always swamped, and the newest packages that I'm trying to get are not on the mirrors.
I think there already are some. At least I hope there are because I've installed them on several people's computers.:-) [ I personally use CVS ] I think they're at deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main for potato, you need to change that to gnome-stage-slink for slink.
As a point, these Debian packages are still under serious development. They're in a separate staging area (a) to resolve version skew and (b) because the developers believe that things aren't stable/bug-free/well-packaged enough to put into the unstable distribution. As much as I'd like to have a working GNOME setup again, I'm waiting until the packages actually get released.
Lyx license is GPL with a special provision for linking with XForms.
KDE uses many GPL'd programs and would need the permission of every author whose code they used to be able to give this permission. Without that permission, it would be illegal to distribute KDE linked against QT. Hopefully, we will have a KDE linked against QT2.0 soon, and these problems will go away.
Try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-2/ or try http://www.debian.org/~jim/debian-gtk-gnome/gnome- stage-slink for the potato and slink distros, respectively.
These locations are apt-able for easy installation. Make sure and read the README!
Because of the large number of authors for KDE (as opposed to Lyx) is was impossible/impractical to get special permission from each contributing author (as would be necessary for it to link with QT). Remember, slink was frozen way back in November.
It will probably be included in potato assuming that this special permission is obtained, or a QT2.0 version is released in time for a potato freeze.
But, just because it is impossible for us to distribute it officially does not mean that debs are not available. Many Debian developers use KDE. Just to to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and ask for the location of the debs if you are interested (I don't know the location offhand).
I wonder when the Debian packages for Gnome will come out.
I'd put them together myself, except that I don't know beans about it, and I think I'll restrict myself to fixing mailman+exim in Debian and my hacked xfstt (which does `unixquotes' correctly) first. Learning how to maintain a Debian package by starting with Gnome 1.0 is not the right way. ^_^
I had a very similar experience--fortunately, I picked up the rpms and Glint'd it into existence. However, the KDE 1.1 has a very schweet install script that GNOME would do well to check out. For now, then, my bet's with KDE. Each to his own, though.
At least download.com has a since of humour:) Well, I guess that may be right if it doesn't include glib,gtk+,imlib (and various graphics libs), and ORBit. No too mention gnome-core and etc needed for the complete enviroment.
Looks like CNet is going to start mirroring ZDNets "coverage" of Linux... expect more Linux help and articles by "expert" Linux users... can't wait to see the FUD...
Re: KDE (Score:1)
I fail to see the point of listing either project alongside such systems as "Biggy 3.5" a program to modify your Windows cursor.
It might help if they did a mirror (Score:1)
Perhaps this will help... (Score:1)
They're just linking to gnome.org (Score:1)
Oh, for dumb. They don't HAVE any of the Gnome stuff actually AT download.com. They're linking to gnome.org.
Well, at least they're mentioning it.
da Gimp as well (Score:1)
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If Bill Gates had a nickel for every time Windows crashed...
Re: (Score:1)
deb http://www.debian.org/~jules/gnome-stage-2 unstable main
for potato, you need to change that to gnome-stage-slink for slink.
Daniel
Gnome debs _are_ available (Score:1)
Off topic: Why KDE is not included in Debian ? (Score:1)
KDE uses many GPL'd programs and would need the permission of every author whose code they used to be able to give this permission. Without that permission, it would be illegal to distribute KDE linked against QT. Hopefully, we will have a KDE linked against QT2.0 soon, and these problems will go away.
Gnome debs _are_ available (Score:1)
These locations are apt-able for easy installation. Make sure and read the README!
Off topic: Why KDE is not included in Debian ? (Score:1)
It will probably be included in potato assuming that this special permission is obtained, or a QT2.0 version is released in time for a potato freeze.
But, just because it is impossible for us to distribute it officially does not mean that debs are not available. Many Debian developers use KDE. Just to to #debian on irc.openprojects.net and ask for the location of the debs if you are interested (I don't know the location offhand).
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I'd put them together myself, except that I don't know beans about it, and I think I'll restrict myself to fixing mailman+exim in Debian and my hacked xfstt (which does `unixquotes' correctly) first. Learning how to maintain a Debian package by starting with Gnome 1.0 is not the right way. ^_^
Is this a mirror? (Score:1)
All I could find were links to the respective Web sites.
And so has KDE (Score:1)
GNOME Install || KDE install (Score:1)
Download time 2 min. (Score:1)
Release date
April 1, 1999
Approx. download time
2 min. at 28.8 kbps
At least download.com has a since of humour:)
Well, I guess that may be right if it doesn't include glib,gtk+,imlib (and various graphics libs), and ORBit. No too mention gnome-core and etc needed for the complete enviroment.
Yes, I like GNOME,
Reklaw
sunsite (Score:1)
this would at least mean that they would have a decent selection of links to non-windoze s/w building up.
CNet jumping on the bandwagon.... (Score:1)
articles by "expert" Linux users
see the FUD