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New chips on the horizon 37

Posted by CmdrTaco from the emulate-the-enemy dept.
Rewbob writes "Rise Technology officially released its roadmap for chips in the sub-$600 PC market and confirmed it will release a chip faster and compatible with Intel's Celeron. Check out the whole story over at news.com. "
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  • I think that Rise and IDT should merge then buy the rest of Cyrix. With all the egineers they have I feel that aliance could come into the market with a killer product... But that's just my idea.
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  • Drop Prices? Are you kidding?
    You want these people to make less than 400$ profit from each chip sold?
    How will they feed their families??


    I really hope they Do drop prices. Everything is overpriced these days.
    People "Getting Away" with raising their prices, set the example for other companies to do the same, Therefor creating the same effect as a Monopoly- and they're not allowed for a good reason.
  • According to those marvelous little benchmark graphs, my Cyrix MMX 233 is looking pretty shoddy.... I wonder, though, how much of a noticeable difference there is in performance. Checking out the Cyrix page http://www.cyrix.com and looking at a couple of the performance tests show the Cyrix MII as performing better than a Celeron, which, if Rise is supposed to be [soon] competing with, confuses me.... Of course, they might have been different chips, I couldn't actually tell, and they were different tests, as well.... Anybody have a better fix on things? (Perhaps I should chunk the Cyrix, eh?)
  • Consider it done....I'm really looking forward to this show. ALL it is, is HARDWARE!
  • I'm putting my money down that Intel will drop their prices on their processors just so that the new company can't sell theirs because Intel can stand to loose money by edgeing out a competitor, they will, including one that will use the same processor interface and will match their speed.
  • Can you run them in SMP, like Celerys?
    I'm guessing probably not...
  • I'm just saying they could if they wanted, of course a company is going to wait out the other one to see if they drop out.
  • I had a cyrix once (didn't last long, went back
    under warranty, and I got it refunded and bought
    a pentium).

    When the 6x86 was brought out, Cyrix published
    benchmarks of 'floating-point applications'. They
    claimed that raw benchmarks were not truly
    representative, and so used non-fp-intensive,
    integer-intensive applications instead (so that
    the Cyrix P166+ came to about 1% ahead of an
    iP150). Running quake was a joke (most of the
    speed increase over my old 486/66 was due to
    the PCI graphics card (PCI Grafixstar 600 as
    opposed to an ISA Cirrus 5422). An iP90
    happily outpaced it at FP intensive applications.

    A frient bought a MII-300 (@233Mhz), and a
    similar story resulted (it getting slaughtered
    by a K6-233 with a slower graphics card).

    In short, NEVER buy a Cyrix.
  • Posted by dadieo:

    did i read it right that they are going to attach some directly to the bourd with no socket or slot making it impossible to upgrade?????????
  • But, the question is, are you really selling something for free, or giving it away?
  • Eh, paint me stupid. I looked but couldn't find em.
  • Posted by dadieo:

    Optimized for Low System Cost
    By specifically designing the mP6 microprocessors with low-power consumption and superior architectural features, Rise is able to reduce the overall cost to OEM's and systems integrators by allowing for the reduction of hardware components in a system. The triple MMX(TM) allows the mP6 processor to reduce the cost of the system by eliminating expensive hardware components like DVD decoders and modem chipsets and implementing those functions in software. In addition, the BGA packaging allows OEM's to mount the mP6 processor directly on a motherboard reducing system costs even further. The BGA packaging is possible due to extremely low power consumption of the mP6 processor.



  • (off topic, but in context with the point)
    Why is Amazon.com still in business, then?

  • Re:Intel's Future Competitor (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Cutting prices to edge out a competitor is illegal in the united states by law.
  • I'll be checking them out at Computex in Taipei on Monday. I'll send in report if anybody is interested. (Gee, maybe they'll be giving out samples!)

  • Re:Rise (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Could you post your findings on a web site or something? I am really interested to see how these compete with Celery's and AMD's K6 lines. www.suredeals.com have a system for $299 with a K6-2 350. Not bad for a cheap machine/Linux/BSD server. I went to Rise's site and they don't mention running linux/BSD on it just NT/OS2/Banyan server OS's. How cheap can Rise go and still make money? Intel can beat most chip makers because of Celery's are cheaper to make and they can just lower that price to almost zero if they wanted because they make so much off of the Xeon's and PIII and later the IA32 and IA64's. Thanks.
  • If your machine isn't used primarily for playing games, the Cyrix is a pretty good deal. In integer-intensive operations like, say, compiling the Linux kernel, it'll whip a Pentium's butt at the same clock speed. And clock speed isn't a particularly good rule against which to compare processors. If you're comparing a 233MHz 6x86 against a 233MHz K6, it's good to remember that the Cyrix costs half as much... and if you want to throw a 233MHz Intel into the mix, the Cyrix's price advantage is even more obvious...

    Basically, if you're concerned about maximum possible performance, get an Intel (or get an Alpha or something if you don't care about x86 compatibility). If you want the best price/performance ratio, there's AMD. And if you want acceptable performance at absolute dirt cheap prices, get a Cyrix.
  • Because Amazon doesn't sell below cost. They cut out the cost of maintaining a huge physical presence, and so can sell for peanuts. However, they lose money because they advertise and work at building their client base.

  • Rise MP6 and FreeBSD (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    The MP6 is not currently compatible with FreeBSD.

    FreeBSD Test Labs have a couple of units kindly supplied by Rise; support is expected shortly.
  • >A frient bought a MII-300 (@233Mhz), and a
    >similar story resulted (it getting slaughtered
    >by a K6-233 with a slower graphics card).

    and the K6 is a terrible FPU performer at that.
  • Anyone can build a chip with no floating point unit and sell it for free. That's not really reducing the price of anything. What we need is a commodity 64 bit processor.
  • Hm, I wonder if these are gonna be more of those "It's designed for a 66mhz bus, but it's running at 100". Are there any product comparisons out yet?

  • Re:Rise (Score:1)

    by Thag ( 8436 )
    I am interested, actually. I'm specifically wondering if the Rise chip will overclock as well as a Celeron. If not, they're in trouble.

    Hope to hear from you!

    Jon Acheson
  • They made the Celeron's, that more than likely hurt competitors and if they can make them cheaper and have less overhead costs, then it's fine if they sell cheaper because they can.

  • Foreign markets being more lucrative ? (Score:3)

    by Wisp ( 1763 ) on Friday May 28, 1999 @07:05AM (#1875626)
    In the long run if they focus on selling a Celeron clone for less to overseas markets, they could end up having a large chunk of worldwide processor processor sales.

    It would (somewhat loosely) parallel how readily Linux has been adopted by countries like Mexico and China as a good product for less.

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