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Meet YouTube Gaming, Twitch's Archenemy 94

Posted by samzenpus from the go-ahead-and-play dept.
An anonymous reader writes: As expected Google has launched its answer to Twitch, YouTube Gaming available on the web, Android and iOS. Techcrunch reports: "We played with the Android app before the launch, and here's how it works. When you open the app, you are presented with a search bar at the top, a few featured channels at the top and then a feed of the most popular channels. The current featured channels don't focus on esports like most Twitch channels. Right now, you can find a 12-hour stream of NBA 2K15, and official stream of Metal Gear Solid V, a speed run of Until Dawn and an Eve Online live show."
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Meet YouTube Gaming, Twitch's Archenemy

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  • Do not want. (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward
    Just buy the game on DVD.

  • OMG!!! (Score:3)

    by sims 2 ( 994794 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @01:20PM (#50397107)

    It has a search function!!! Thats amazing!!!

    Twitch has been doing this for years why have they never thought of that??

    (Amazon owns Twitch yet fire tv has no search in twitch app)

  • It's like spectator sports, but the audience may also be a player of the game.

    I never got the appeal of spectator sports but I do like to watch someone skilled play a game, so that I can learn from it and become better myself.

    Although frankly, I prefer watching stuff that's pre-recorded so I can skip through boring and mundane bits. At the cost of not being able to interact with the broadcaster. But let's face it, that never really happens in the really popular channels anyway, you just get drowned in the f

    • It's like spectator sports, but the audience may also be a player of the game.

      Agreed. There is one streamer I follow on Twitch and he will get all of his followers together on one server or get them on a public server and play as a team. I have done that several times....watch for awhile, join the server he is on and play along for awhile, then go back to watching. Pretty fun!

  • A video game is a copyrighted audiovisual work, and streaming a video game without permission from the game's publisher is copyright infringement [arstechnica.com]. How do Twitch and YouTube Gaming either obtain this permission or provide a means for members to apply to publishers to obtain this permission?

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by Hadlock ( 143607 )

      It's free advertising that has amazing marketing data generation, and customer interaction levels on par with the Victoria's Secret fashion show they televise every year. If they don't already directly address copyright issues in their EULA now, they will soon. All of the major publishing houses have been promoting e-sports for a while and there have been close to zero takedowns based on game streaming.

      I see the potential for conflict here, but in the last four years it has been a non-issue, and Go

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by iCEBaLM ( 34905 )

      That is one lawyers opinion, there is no legal precedent of this, and I would argue that the only legal precedent that exists is the one cited in the article, Allen v. Academic Games League of America. The playing of board games and video games are fundamentally similar that I believe that precedent would stand if a court case were filed.

    • Most companies don't actually have a problem with streamers as it's free advertising for their games. Although if it's negative they may use this angle to try to censor. Which can lead to the Streisand effect.

      ContentID sometimes still triggers on the background music in some games.

    • A video game is a copyrighted audiovisual work, and streaming a video game without permission from the game's publisher is copyright infringement

      Is it now? Thats "one" persons opinion. You are way way way to literal on things like this.

      How do Twitch and YouTube Gaming either obtain this permission or provide a means for members to apply to publishers to obtain this permission?

      They don't need to?

      Look, the only company that really doesn't care for streaming is Nintendo, goes to show just how stuck in the past they are. Streaming is built right in to the PS4 and Xbox One.

      • Thats "one" persons opinion

        Everything is one person's opinion until it's tested in a court of law. The article I linked states that such a case has been decided for board games, but not for video games.

        Look, the only company that really doesn't care for streaming is Nintendo, goes to show just how stuck in the past they are.

        From the article I linked: "Capcom can make you get a license for the 'public performance' of the game. In fact, that is exactly what Capcom does with for-profit tournaments" with games in the Street Fighter series. Blizzard likewise has tried to use copyright to give one Korean TV network exclusive rights to StarCraft II [wikipedia.org]. Sega at one

        • This Ars Technica article agrees. Is a licensee allowed to designate the entire game as such a scene? Apparently so, according to this Polygon article and this reddit post.

          They "can" but don't, not for Twitch type streaming. The CoD and Minecraft examples you give are for "Share Play" which is different from Twitch/Ustream/Youtube streaming, or "game DVR". Share play lets some one over the internet, log into a "local" mulitplayer game, where they don't even have to own the game.

  • That website is so bandwidth and CPU intensive that I thought it was a black empty page for nearly ten seconds.

    • enjoy the pure HTML5 experience you've all been clambering for. oh wait, you mean HTML5 didn't turn out to magically efficient?!

    • Re: (Score:1)

      by zenbi ( 3530707 )

      I can't stand the lack of scroll bar on the webpage. They covered the normal scrollbar area with avatar circles and made it impossible to actually click on the scroll bar to scroll. Hope you have a scroll wheel on your mouse!

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by sims 2 ( 994794 )

        Glad I wasn't the only one to have that problem.

      • I have a scroll bar that the avatar circles don't cover, but if I move over to the scrollbar, a channels sidebar pops over with ANOTHER scrollbar just for it.

    • It IS a black empty page in older browsers (Opera 12.xx). Looking at the html this website has empty body element, its all garbage javascript the way google wants all the web to look like.

      • Well no wonder my browser froze up trying to load that crap. I bet everybody at Google only has the latest hardware and doesn't care about optimization.

  • Some people will probably use it, but it'll be hard to convince people to move away from Twitch, not because it is any better, but because Google isn't really offering any compelling reason to move.

    It's like they assume that just because they are Google, people will immediately jump ship. And we all know how well that worked with Google plus...

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by tlhIngan ( 30335 )

      Some people will probably use it, but it'll be hard to convince people to move away from Twitch, not because it is any better, but because Google isn't really offering any compelling reason to move.

      It's like they assume that just because they are Google, people will immediately jump ship. And we all know how well that worked with Google plus...

      Well, I can see two places where Google can fix things.

      First is ads - twitch is freaking annoying to watch for me - 30 seconds of content, followed by 30 seconds of a

      • Not quite sure which stream you were watching on Twitch however:
        * when ads run (apart from the initial page/stream load) is under control of the streamer, and any decent streamer will only run ads during appropriate breaks (some don't run any at all).
        * Pay the very low cost for Turbo and never see an ad but have the streamer get the money as if you did and there is no interruption to what you are watching.
        * If you are being cheap and don't want to pay then adblock works and streams don't interrupt.

        There is

      • And forgot to say... Twitch is already moving to html 5...

  • XB1 and PS4 Integration? (Score:3)

    by mythosaz ( 572040 ) on Wednesday August 26, 2015 @02:01PM (#50397411)

    Until there's an app on both of these platforms, this is going to be an also-ran.

    • Re: (Score:2)

      by flink ( 18449 )

      Until there's an app on both of these platforms, this is going to be an also-ran.

      I'm sure console integration is something they thought about. But in any case to me it feels like most of the big streaming games are either eSports-type multi-player titles (MOBAs, Starcraft, CS:GO) or indie PC let's plays. If you look on twitch, there are plenty of console games in the top 25, but not many console exclusives. I think the PC streaming market alone is big enough to sustain a competing PC-only service at least until Google can work out a deal with the console makers.

      I think the bigger obs

    • YouTube is just about everywhere even on the Nintendo Wii U and 3DS.

      If they don't get YouTube Gaming everywhere separately I’m sure they will just work it into their current apps.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by DeKO ( 671377 )

        Funny you mention the Wii U and 3DS apps. They are just wrapped, unoptimized webkit wrappers. Their webkit versions is old, which is good for the homebrew community; but bad for people that want to use it, since it's so slow and unresponsive.

        You can ask any big Twitch partner about Youtube; the ones that bother to comment about it all agree:Ttwitch takes care of their partners better than Youtube. They only upload some content to Youtube because the Twitch VODs don't show up on the Google searches as high.

        I

    • Until there's an app on both of these platforms, this is going to be an also-ran.

      The PS4's next firmware release (which is in beta right now) will have Youtube Streaming support

      http://www.vg247.com/2015/08/1... [vg247.com]

  • This is not even news (Score:1)

    by Anonymous Coward

    The copyright ID system is in full effect in REAL TIME on the YouTube Gaming platform, this makes it pointless from the get-go. Playing GTA5? Have fun getting your account dinged because the radio, full of licensed garbage, is playing. Anything by Nintendo? Flagged and muted, because Nintendo is anti-gamer. The list goes on and on. Nobody of any value, note, or worth will be using "YouTube Gaming."

  • Watching other people do it has always been popular, I just never thought that applied to banal and mundane activities. What's next, live streams of the commute to the office?

    • Watching other people do it has always been popular, I just never thought that applied to banal and mundane activities. What's next, live streams of the commute to the office?

      I've always thought spectator sports is like porn. Guys watching other guys do physical exercise, all excited and sweating, while they could be doing it themselves, but for some reason they don't.

  • I don't get it.
  • Just what I've always wanted.. forced 360p LQ video of my fav gaming content makers. GREAT!
    Also, if they are only allowing high subscribed channels in to this then its not cool or useful and seems motr like another way to monetize other's content.

  • I watch a lot of spedrunners and the occasional eSports event on twitch/hitbox. I watched a friend try out youtube's streaming today, because he was excited about it. It seemed competent but not really a serious threat to twitch, at least for now.

    First, the pros:

    - They appear to offer lower quality re-encodes to all streams, whereas Twitch only provides them for partners and streams with a lot of viewers (because re-encodes cost them CPU). This is a nice perk for people who would like to stream at a high

  • Looks like the people responsible for the new google maps UI also made this turd.
    Twitch isn't pretty but at least navigating the site makes some sense.
    YouTube Gaming on the other hand is cancer for the eyes. Fucking tablet UIs

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