Meta is Dumping Facebook Logins as Its Metaverse ID System (techcrunch.com) 36
An anonymous reader shares a report: Despite the name change and metaverse hyperbole, Facebook has always been at the center of the Meta suite of software for users engaging with its wider ecosystem. While that may continue to be the case indefinitely, it's clear the company is taking steps to ensure that its next swath of users aren't tied to a network that may still pay the bills but isn't where the company sees its reinvention. Next month, the company will be introducing a new type of login called a Meta account that will allow users to engage with products that previously might have required a Facebook account to use.
At launch, users will be able to use their Meta account to sign up for and log in to the company's Quest hardware, functionality that will come to other Meta devices in the future, the company says. Users can choose to link their Meta account to their Facebook and Instagram accounts as well, or not. Unlike Facebook accounts, users are free to have multiple Meta accounts, the company says. This change addresses the concerns of some VR users who complained about various quirks of relying on a private social media profile login to play video games. While plenty of users were concerned by privacy implications, others were frustrated by more organizational issues related to combining the two accounts with separate friends lists, settings and rules. By the beginning of next year, Meta accounts will be the standard login for VR users.
At launch, users will be able to use their Meta account to sign up for and log in to the company's Quest hardware, functionality that will come to other Meta devices in the future, the company says. Users can choose to link their Meta account to their Facebook and Instagram accounts as well, or not. Unlike Facebook accounts, users are free to have multiple Meta accounts, the company says. This change addresses the concerns of some VR users who complained about various quirks of relying on a private social media profile login to play video games. While plenty of users were concerned by privacy implications, others were frustrated by more organizational issues related to combining the two accounts with separate friends lists, settings and rules. By the beginning of next year, Meta accounts will be the standard login for VR users.
Meta == alphabet (Score:3)
== fronting company designed to:
1/ structure the company to pay less tax
2/ Hide the true company names that carry a lot of negative baggage
I wish the media stopped playing along and called Facebook and Google by their real names whenever possible.
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That's a pretty dumb comment. But let's break it down in detail:
1/ there's nothing about this structure or the name that allows them to pay less tax. Both Google and Facebook prior to incorporating parent companies had exactly the same corporate structure in exactly the same tax havens. All this does is simplify that structure through which money is funded. If anything it allows them to pay for one or two accountants less.
2/ Nothing is hidden. Facebook is still Facebook. It still is the same shitbag company
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If only they had started with something.. (Score:2)
Say... an Oculus Id. Something separate than a facebook login. This could have been avoided.
Oh wait, they had that and changed to Facebook login. When people complained the fix was not to roll back, but to go to yet *another* identity system. This suggests they are doing something to throw a bone to users and/or addressing some specific warranty issues they have, but still doing some agreements/what have you that still plays in facebook's advantage in ways the old oculus id did not.
Oh no! (Score:2)
My historically complete refusal to engage with Facebook was the last bastion of my defense against the Metaverse! Now I'm doomed to a life where real life and virtual existence are hopelessly comingled!
Unless... wait... what if I simply applied my former resistance to the new threat? Hmm... could it be that simple?
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Actually, you're not that much of a minority. The ven diagram intersection of "People interested in VR" and "People being smart enough to not use Facebook" is probably bigger than you think.
Re:Pretty good sign Facebook is a drag on VR (Score:5, Insightful)
Why? It's not like you need to use your Facebook account. Make an empty account and move on with your life. Everyone else does. Fuck I have a Facebook account and don't even use it for my Oculus headset, create a dummy account for that.
If you think not having a Facebook account means that you don't have a Facebook account or that you aren't being tracked, well I have some sad news for you.
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So you have two facebook accounts. That makes you doubly impressive? Not everyone wants even a ingle account with them, much less one that will have personally identifying informatin such as banking info etc. Just because you are good with it, doesn't mean the rest of the world should care as little as you.
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So you have two facebook accounts. That makes you doubly impressive? Not everyone wants even a ingle account with them
What is in a Facebook account. No one really gives a shit about their accounts, they give a shit about sharing their private information and tracking. I have one so I can talk to my mother on the other side of the world, with a feed that I haven't posted anything to since something like 2008, and another that is effectively completely blank. Both have fake names, both share nothing about me.
Just because you are good with it, doesn't mean the rest of the world should care as little as you.
But I do care. The point is that having the Facebook account means I give up no more private information than Facebook
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It's a lot easier than that. You can't use a Facebook account for more than about a day without having to put in a cell number "for security" (which has been shown in court to be a lie, it's for tracking). And since the Facebook app has certainly scraped the address book of every one of his friends that uses Facebook... I think this guy might just be a shill spreading FUD, since he can't have those two accounts under the same phone number, a fact he is conveniently leaving out.
I think it's reasonable to
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More people have a Facebook account but have no desire to have a hardware brick because they wrong thinked on social media.
If you create a second Facebook account you risk having all your accounts locked and your oculus becomes an expensive brick.
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More people have a Facebook account but have no desire to have a hardware brick because they wrong thinked on social media.
Why are you thinking on social media at all? You're scared of your own frigging shadow there. Your account doesn't get blocked for wrong think. You need to go on a concerted an long campaign of harassments ala professional troll farm to have even the remotest chance of getting your arse blocked.
If you create a second Facebook account you risk having all your accounts locked and your oculus becomes an expensive brick.
And the link between them is what? IP address? Facebook has literally no ability to tell.
Also your Oculus does not brick if your Facebook account is blocked. Factory reset it, and open up another. Move on with your l
Their headset sucks. (Score:2)
They have not made making an 100 pixels-per-degree (ppd) headset a priority. They claim to be experimenting with a 55 ppd display, but the release of that is at least 5 years away. Furthermore 55ppd is uncanny VR territory .. you can still notice some screen door effect, or if there is no gap between pixels, blur.
Their excuses: ... :False. With foveated rendering, todays graphics chips can handle the workload because the human eye only needs a few degrees
1. GPUs can't handle rendering a 10k per-eye display.
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Am I the only one who doesn't give a shit about all of that?
Today's world is dystopian enough with just phones. The last thing we need is to have everyone strap some kind of alternate reality contraption onto their heads.
All the idiots in the world would have zero chance of finding their way out of whatever rabbit holes they go down wearing these things.
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This is like the radio generation seeing no need for movies and television. Or The silent movie generation not seeing the need for speaking in movies. Or the B&W era not seeing the need for color in films. Movies and VR don't make you a failure... patting yourself on the back for being wary of a technology that is indifferent, is empty and meaningless like anything else.
DO you find anyone who watches TV or listens to modern music or likes modern art an idiot too? get over yourself.
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Then don't bother reading the headline, summary, comments, and even add a comment about a subject that holds no interest for you?
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55 ppd would be pretty good. 60 ppd would match the fidelity of my 4k monitor at the viewing distance I use. Frankly, 40 ppd is how I use my office monitor, and I can't really tell the difference off hand between that an my 60 ppd setup.
The closest in 'consumer' grade VR is Varjo Aero, which hits 35 ppd. So you can buy that happily (only $2,000 dollars, which is a price point that other companies understandably don't go for). It doesn't support standalone operation, so you'll need to get a PC to go with
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The Varjo-3 central display is 72 ppd .. and that too has a slightly discernable screen-door- effect. Google it. The full moon occupies half a degree in the sky. If you think 60 ppd is at retina level, think about how much detail you can see in a full moon .. can that be accomplished with a mere 30 pixels across. Shrink a photo of the moon to 32 x 32 pixels and tell me whether that is all the detail you can discern on the moon when you look at it on a clear day.
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I don't know what you are calling screen door if you can see it in the VR-3 through the lens videos. Generally I see them struggle with refresh rate mismatch between camera and display, but other than that, the display fidelity seems on point, with neither blur nor screen door effect.
I pulled up a moon picture and scaled it down to half a degree. Yes, 32 pixels is *plenty* for naked eye detail of the moon for half a degree of view. That's less than 1% of my monitor (I view at a FoV of 60 degrees), half a
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Are you absolutely positive you are measuring the FoV correctly? When was the last time you had an eye exam?
The proper test is with letters .. the number of text characters that can fit in 60 pixels and be clearly readable versus the number of letters that are readable in one degree FoV. According to the Snellen visual acuity test (each letter is 5 arc-seconds width), that should be 12 letters clearly distinguishable to match an average person's visual acuity.
5 pixels is too little per letter (there also ne
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My eyes aren't *perfect* (like 20/30) but good enough.
4k monitor, 27", about 18" away yields an FoV of about 60 degrees or so. So my monitor is giving me about 64 pixels per degree.
I think if you in the neighborhood of pixel density of 60 ppd, oddities in your optics are more likely a source of contention (the dreaded god ray), and of course the rendering horsepower, the actual art effort that has to go into the assets, and in the case of media fundamental limitations like how an immersive video is still on
see that pile (Score:1)
If you see a pile of poo you do not step in it. You don't want parasites now do you?
https://vmc.usask.ca/documents... [usask.ca]
Hope it lets me migrate over with games (Score:2)
I originally had an Oculus account, that Facebook at some point made me either link or convert to Facebook... hopefully this new login ID will still let me keep all of the games I've bought, though I am almost sure they'll have some way to migrate users over keeping games they have bought... way too many complaints if they do not.
SSDN (Score:2)
Same shit, different name.
Same massive data-hoovering apparatus, same despicable twat at the helm, same privacy issues, same exploitative business model.
Same number of reasons not to have an Oculus.
Re: SSDN (Score:2)
Good! (Score:3)
Honestly when I see the work going on at meta lately I'm starting to think this might be his labor of love. Facebook and the problems that come with it are the result of the baser hormones of an adolescent male.
The VR ready player one thing is more akin to the other dreams of a young geek fantasizing about what could be... yeah okay, that fantasy probably wraps back around to those base hormones where the two can intersect but in a way that can be realized while benefiting others and providing a harmless outlet rather than destruction.
BTW I recently grabbed a couple Quest 2's and much of the technology and content in the VR space is pretty amazing.
Ah yes, of course. (Score:2)
Ah yes, the Metaccount. Everybody knows that!