Catch up on stories from the past week (and beyond) at the Slashdot story archive

 



Forgot your password?
typodupeerror
×
Transportation Crime United States Apple

Washington DC Gives Residents Free AirTags To Help Track Stolen Cars (pcmag.com) 110

The city of Washington D.C. is planning to give residents Apple AirTags to help officers track down stolen vehicles. PCMag reports: "Last week, we introduced legislation to address recent crime trends; this week, we are equipping residents with technology that will allow MPD to address these crimes, recover vehicles, and hold people accountable," D.C. Mayor Muriel Bowser said in a statement. "We have had success with similar programs where we make it easier for the community and MPD to work together -- from our Private Security Camera Incentive Program to the wheel lock distribution program -- and we will continue to use all the tools we have, and add new tools, to keep our city safe."

At launch, the AirTags will be available to residents in specific areas of the city that have recently seen the largest increase in vehicle thefts. To obtain the tags, residents will have to attend one of three scheduled distribution events next week where officers will install the device on the resident's cars and help them set up the tracking tag on their mobile devices. The program is currently available for residents who live in Police Service Areas 106, 501, 502, 603, 605, and 606. Check where you live on the MPD's website.

This discussion has been archived. No new comments can be posted.

Washington DC Gives Residents Free AirTags To Help Track Stolen Cars

Comments Filter:
  • by rogoshen1 ( 2922505 ) on Monday November 06, 2023 @08:56PM (#63986016)

    Oh those darn "youths" again, as usual up to their ears in hijinks

  • by Powercntrl ( 458442 ) on Monday November 06, 2023 @09:02PM (#63986026) Homepage

    The cars were recovered, but in both cases the interior of the cars were trashed by the thieves. The idea should be to take actions which deter car thieves in the first place. You don't want it to get to the point where you're faced with the prospect of recovering a vehicle, because then you're also possibly dealing with having to confront the thief or trying to convince disinterested police to actually do their job.

    Put the free AirTag on that BBQ ignitor you're always misplacing. Then get a real anti-theft device such as a club and/or ignition kill switch for your car so a thief won't be going anywhere with it.

    • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

      Then get a real anti-theft device such as a club and/or ignition kill switch for your car so a thief won't be going anywhere with it.

      Most modern cars (excepting the very recent and sad example of Kia and Hyundai) have included kill technology for basically forever. My 2012 Honda Civic w/entry level trim had it and that car didn't even have Bluetooth.

      If you want the most effective anti-theft technology [wikipedia.org], it's increasingly hard to find, but you can get it if you are patient enough to look for it. I parked the aforementioned Civic on the streets of a high crime metro for ten years and never even had my spare change stolen. :D

      • It all depends on the tech available. The old standby of having a hidden switch on the ignition, and another on the fuel pump has worked for me, even with vehicles without chip technology. If needed, I could always step up to a Ravelco immobilizer for about a grand, which will force a thief to tear through an armored conduit and play "guess the pins" in order to start the vehicle. I've wound up with my car with a busted steering column, and another time, the vehicle was in the street stalled, but they we

        • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

          If I had my car stolen/broken into as many times as you have I'd move. Not trying to blame the victim, don't misread me, it truly sucks you've gone through that.

          I guess I've been lucky? In my 25 years of car ownership the worst thing that ever happened to me was having the spare change stolen out of my 1991 beater car that was so dilapidated the doors no longer locked. They'd have done me a favor stealing that car. Instead I got a real slap in the face; they took the time to dump out my gallon milk jug

          • I guess I've been lucky? In my 25 years of car ownership the worst thing that ever happened to me was having the spare change stolen out of my 1991 beater car that was so dilapidated the doors no longer locked. They'd have done me a favor stealing that car. Instead I got a real slap in the face; they took the time to dump out my gallon milk jug of spare change, picked out all the quarters, nickels, and dimes, and left the fucking pennies. Fuckers couldn't just take it all?!

            One word: Coinstar. If you take the payout as an Amazon voucher, there is no charge.

        • by jbengt ( 874751 )

          Not 100% secure, but at least insurance will be able to find the vehicle's stripped carcass after I put in a claim.

          In the city where I used to live, it seems that the main purpose of stealing a car is to use it in another crime, like a smash-and-grab robbery, and then abandoning it. So finding the stolen vehicle is usually easy.
          In fact, a very common theft involving cars has become to jack up the car and cut out the catalytic converter, leaving the car behind in its' parking space.

          • Wow, people where you live bother with jacking the car up to take a catalytic converter? Here they just show up with an electric saws-all and a U-haul truck to a movie theater parking lot, lay down next to the car on the pavement and slide the saw underneath and start removing exhaust systems - two cuts through some fairly thin tube walling, slide the catalytic converter to your friend who throws it in the back of the U-haul while you move to the next car in the row.

            They are so quick at this, that last yea

      • by burtosis ( 1124179 ) on Monday November 06, 2023 @11:21PM (#63986306)
        The link had me rolling. Went to a restaurant that had valet parking with my WRX manual transmission and left my keys and went in. Came out and was surprised to find my car immediately just where I had left it in front of the restaurant. Turns out none of the valet attendants could drive stick so they left it blocking the front of the restaurant the entire time we ate Lmafo.
      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        If most cars have immobilizers then how are they being stolen?

        I know a lot of high end ones have flawed keyless entry/start systems that are vulnerable to relay and replay attacks. It's kind of surprising that anyone can insure them, but then I read that often the insurance company won't pay out because they blame the owner for not using a Faraday pouch.

        • A lot of those systems are shit. I hear you can bypass the one on 2000s Mercedes by jumping two relay pins together. On the Sprinter the relay in question is under the column and you can do it from the driver's seat with no tools, just one little piece of wire.

          • The most expensive part of the system are the keyfobs. This is why I like the older systems of a remote, where an attacker can't use a system of making your key seem nearer to the vehicle in order to open the door and start the engine.

            I have seen systems like the CAN-Phantom which will prompt for a PIN with random buttons on the vehicle, but that seems UK only.

            Maybe it is time for some 1990s tech to come back. I remember an alarm system which had an anti-carjack feature with a third pedal which would let

        • Most immobilizers and anti-theft systems are there just to check the box with insurance companies and regulatory approvals. You usually need to look no further than the wires actually connecting the security module to the rest of the car plus a google search to figure out an easy bypass. For example, the "immobilizer" in many Volkswagen cars from the late 90s to the late 00's could be bypassed in seconds with a screwdriver and a mini blade fuse by prying a plastic cover off the dash, pulling out the secur

    • Clubs are worthless, all it takes is a pair of bolt cutters to remove it.

      "But my club is made of diamond!"

      Too bad your steering wheel isn't. And it remains plenty functional with a single cut in it, which is all that's needed.

      • The best anti theft device seems to be hiding fuel switch in a discreet location to stop the vehicle from being taken. If they can't find it quickly they are likely to move on to something easier. Another thing seems to be owning a Tesla which protects against it being taken but also smash and grabs. I've known a couple Tesla owners that have had their neighbours car broken into multiple times while leaving their Tesla alone. I suspect they frequent the area and fear being recognized from the sentry mode
        • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

          I suspect they frequent the area and fear being recognized from the sentry mode camera footage while out on the street.

          Those are some pretty lazy and unimaginative thieves given that COVID normalized hiding your face in public. Also seems pretty stupid because cameras aren't unique to Telsa. If you're engaged in that kind of petty crime you ought to be covering your face regardless.

          • If you are a local junkie that wears the same clothes everyday or you have face tattoos a mask won't fully protect you from being recognized. Sentry mode is rather unique to Tesla others are catching up and you can have after market systems installed but they aren't as good and require their own battery pack for overnight parking unless you don't want to be able to start your car the next day.
        • by Shakrai ( 717556 )

          Also, not to reply twice, but WTF Telsa? Multiple Google sources claim sentry mode takes 250 to 300 watts while engaged. How the hell does it take more energy to run a few cameras and a cellular modem than it takes to run my entire CCTV system at work, which has 20 cameras, and basically a NAS to store all the footage? I have servers that don't suck down that much juice.

          • Yes Tesla, who would have thunk the most technologically advanced car company would have better tech? Right?

            Good thing they have a lot of juice. If you charge your vehicle overnight you don't have to worry either.
      • by cob666 ( 656740 )

        Clubs are worthless, all it takes is a pair of bolt cutters to remove it.

        "But my club is made of diamond!"

        Too bad your steering wheel isn't. And it remains plenty functional with a single cut in it, which is all that's needed.

        Not ENTIRELY worthless, they are a deterrent to casual car thieves, given the choice a similar car with no steering wheel lock will get pinched instead of yours. But if a thief WANTS your car, they're going to get by pretty much any steering wheel lock, pretty quickly if they have the right tools.

        • When clubs were popular I used one. Then I came out to find my windshield broken. Turns out a snowplow had come by, hit the side mirror hard enough to move the car and jerk the front wheels so the steering wheel turned driving the end of the club into the windshield. I could even show the insurance adjuster that with the club on the wheel the end of it went right to the center of the cracks. They covered it.

        • A lot of times when they see stuff like that, it just makes them want to target that car even more just out of spite. Similar things happen when people have those security company signs planted in their yards. Similarly, these systems are generally worthless, at least in the way most are built.

          • The trick with security is to make your ride less attractive than the other people, but not so much security that it gets vandalized out of spite. Ages ago, I was at a job where one car had an alarm that went off all the time, and had an Invisi-beam sensor on it with a voice, "you have ten seconds to leave the area of the car" if people got near it, and eventually the alarm just was going off all the time. The car was put out of its misery when someone poured gasoline on the car and set it ablaze.

            Back whe

            • That's why people go around keying luxury cars. It didn't really get any attention until Teslas came around with sentry mode where they caught people in the act. Prior to that the assumption was generally that somebody who hates you did that to spite you. Teslas showed everybody that it's typically done by people who have no idea or the owner is, and the owner didn't do anything wrong to them.

              It turns out that basically some poor slob, like drinkypoo or rsilvergun, sees nice things that they don't have but

    • Yeah this Airtag plan will be rather dangerous if police are not willing to respond right away when given the location of the vehicle. If people know where their vehicle is but cops take too long to respond they are going to go and check on it themselves.
    • by NFN_NLN ( 633283 )

      > convince disinterested police to actually do their job

      You can tell this guy has interacted with police as a non-criminal.

    • They're there to ensure the orderly operation of commerce. If you pay attention to one police actually leap into action in Mass that's always the case. This is by design and if you're upset with it you would need political reform to do something about it.

      And besides those inner city use aren't going to beat themselves to death right?
  • Isn't that just 'grand theft auto' meets 'find my iPhone'? DC's latest crossover episode features the AirTag—because when your car decides to take a joy ride without you, you should at least get the live tracking update! Handy for those moments when you forget if you parked in A3 or if your ride's out there living its best life on a high-speed chase. And hey, if your car's social life wasn't active enough, now it gets its own profile on the MPD's website. Here's to hoping the car thieves aren't savvy
    • Thieves are too dumb to even know what an airtag is, much less know how to use google, much less carry an iphone with them to detect airtags.
    • DC voters are so fucking stupid, I mean look who they vote for, that they will actually believe this bullshit about this joke of a program helping fight auto theft. They will thank their elected officials for caring about them, and vote for all incumbents again next year.

    • No need to worry about that in Washington DC, police are not allowed to chase or confront criminals unless someone is actively in danger AND there are no other alternatives. They simply wait until your car gets wrapped around a pole and then pick up the wreck for you. And they sure wonâ(TM)t pick up the criminal even if you have him on camera, and even if they did, the justice system has various diversion programs where criminals donâ(TM)t even get punished.

  • by Shakrai ( 717556 ) on Monday November 06, 2023 @09:24PM (#63986070) Journal

    Apple literally made a product to bring stalking to the masses. The remediations for it are woefully insufficient. Until a few months ago, there was no way to know if you're being tracked by an AirTag unless you were also an iPhone user. Android finally implemented a warning but that leaves people without smartphones (they still exist) high and dry. The tracking warning that does exist alerts in false positive situations. I get one every time I take a train ride. For pure amusement I tap the button to make it play an alert sound and watch the ensuing chaos as the owner has to find the thing to shut it up.

    It's useless for tracking items of value. My laptop, phone, tablet, etc. already have built-in location tracking and remote wipe functionality. It has some small value for finding the remote or car keys you lost but there are non-creepy solutions for that.

    The most offensive, IMHO, part, AirTag tracking works by leveraging every iDevice around the tag. Apple is literally using MY battery and cellular data to help YOU find your shit and/or stalk your family. There is no way to disable this functionality without losing important features that I need. Apple provides an opt out for EVERY form of data collection EXCEPT AirTag Relay. I can opt out of anonymized traffic data collection with zero privacy implications but cannot opt out of my phone being used to stalk people/items with AirTags.

    It is, IMHO, the worst product they have ever made.

    • You sound like a stalker.

    • by Apotekaren ( 904220 ) on Tuesday November 07, 2023 @05:12AM (#63986626)

      The tracking warning that does exist alerts in false positive situations. I get one every time I take a train ride. For pure amusement I tap the button to make it play an alert sound and watch the ensuing chaos as the owner has to find the thing to shut it up.

      That's not how it works. As long as the AirTag is within range of the owner's iDevice, it will not trigger an alert.
      So you're probably actually helping someone find an AirTag that's been lost or intentionally stuck on someone else.

      They're also great for sticking in luggage so you can prove to the airport staff you KNOW they've lost your bag and you can show them exactly where it is.

      AirTag brought traceable, easily controlled "tracking" to the masses, which is absolutely useless for actual stalking in most cases. And when it happens, the AirTag is linked to someone's AppleID and most probably their name, credit card details, billing address etc... So hugely self-incriminating that only idiots would try it.

      And if that's the worst product ever made, I have a Ford Pinto to sell you. Among other things.

      • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

        That's not my experience. I can make AirTags play an alert sound even when they are in range of the owner, using an Android phone. There is a rate limit on how often you can make the AirTag play the sound, something like every 10 minutes.

        Apple was irresponsible in not creating an open standard for trackers, so that Android could at least support stalking detection. Google has now created one, but is waiting for Apple to implement support in iOS before releasing products to market. Apple doesn't seem to be i

    • Apple is literally using MY battery and cellular data to help YOU find your shit

      I know. What were they thinking. Can't the see we are self centred arseholes!

  • by zkiwi34 ( 974563 ) on Monday November 06, 2023 @09:31PM (#63986080)
    It is DC, so I wonder.
  • I use these to mount them under the vehicle frame with zip ties.
    https://www.ebay.com/itm/33408... [ebay.com]

  • Move to some place that is safer.

  • Hey, we've seen that the airtag we gave you was in the neighborhood of a murder. Guess what! You're a suspect!
    What? You didn't think we'd track you all the time? Don't be silly, of course we do! It's for your own safety!
    Now be a good boy and report to your police station Monday morning where the nice sergeant will question you. And take spare underpants with you because you may have to sleep over...

  • Love when the government tries to fix something they created (reduced penalties for crime) with a giveaway paid for by tax payers and then has the gall to call it âoefreeâ. âoeWashington DC government subsidizes AirTags for residents to help track stolen carsâ TFIFY
  • DC resident here. There's zero problem finding the cars. They're almost all recovered within a day without any special tech, because they're being carjacked by teenagers looking for a thrill or wheels to commit other crimes, and they're being dumped relatively quickly. And it does nothing to deter potential carjackings because they're taking your phone, too, so by the time you can even think to track it (and assuming --hah- that the DC police bother) it's already dumped and probably stripped. This is al
  • The police are holding an event where they will install the Air Tags. The thieves will now know exactly where to look to easily remove them...doh!

God doesn't play dice. -- Albert Einstein

Working...