

TAG Heuer Increasing Weekly Production To Meet Demand For Its Smartwatch (slashgear.com) 86
An anonymous reader writes: According to reports TAG Heuer is struggling to keep up with the high demand for its $1,500 TAG Heuer Connected Android Wear-powered smartwatch. Since its launch in November the company has sold about 100,000 units and plans to crank up production to 2,000 units per week. According to Slashgear: "Jean-Claude Biver, the CEO of Tag Heuer shares that more smartwatch models from the company will be unveiled at the end 2016 or early 2017 – with options of new materials and diamonds. Being the genius that revived brands such as Blancpain and Hublot, Biver has positioned Tag Heuer as the first luxury watchmaker that enters smartwatch business with a 'big bang' and ready to use large eco-system courtesy of Android Wear."
timeless pieces (Score:5, Insightful)
and this is how we turn decades lasting timepieces into disposable trash.
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I suspect if the smartwatch part takes off, in two years you will also have the opportunity to trade in for a watch with the new firmware/hardware in it.
Why settle for a watch from an MP3 player maker* if a Swiss watch firm makes a smartwatch?
(*the equivalent of selling sugar water to kids)
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Because watchmaking is the Swiss watchmakers expertise, something that has almost nothing to do with smartwatch making.
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Nobody anywhere has expertise in smartwatch making*. Why not let experts in robust watch enclosure design take part in the technology?
(*sellers of sugar water to kids are taking a stab at it)
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Yes, you give it back and give them another $1500 and they give you a $1500 "forever" watch.
Re:timeless pieces (Score:4, Interesting)
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and this is how we turn decades lasting timepieces into disposable trash.
Yup you can get a nice used TAG for about the same money.
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Indeed. Although they could follow the Zeitgeist and offer a "rebuild" function in a few years time.
The hipsters would love that, imagine "I just 'upgraded' my watch for only $500, darling!'
Would only cost a few bucks in parts and labour for TAG, so probably profitable.
I hope this happens - part of the "brand promise" of Swiss watches is the fact that they can be repaired and hence last virtually indefinitely.
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I wonder about the veracity of this claim. It seems to me that the phone and jewellery business share similarities - symbols of success and conspicuous consumption. However, there are major differences too. With jewellery / watches, a high end item is still high end even years after purchase, whereas with technology, depreciation is rapid and brutal. What is the point of spending tens of thousands on a watch, adding diamonds to it to show off, when in a few months somebody else can come along, spend a lot l
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I think you are missing their target market here: People who have $1500 to spend on a watch...
I don't think these people will be all that annoyed to have to lay down another $1500 next year on the next "new thing"
Re:Santa isn't coming this year (Score:5, Funny)
The liberals just raised taxes again on his corporation North Pole Inc. and forced him to provide Obamacare for his elves. They also sued him for giving coal to bad children, saying it that every child should be a winner and it was unfair to black kids who grew up in worse situations than whites, so therefore Santa's policy was racial discrimination. The fine was $400,000,000.
He is no longer able to make a profit and therefore had to declare bankruptcy. Sorry kids. ;(
Vote for Trump in 2016 if you want Santa to come back. Make America great again!
What? I thought that Santa Claus is Canadian, based on his legitimate Canadian mailing address:
SANTA CLAUS
NORTH POLE, H0H0H0, CANADA
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
So all of his elves should have be fully covered by universal single payer health care, decades before Obama was elected. And as a Canadian non-profit organisation, his corporate tax rate is zero.
Besides I have no idea why you are praising Trump, when up north, there is no greater hero than Ted Cruz for renouncing his Canadian citizenship.
http://trailblazersblog.dallas... [dallasnews.com]
http://www.dallasnews.com/news... [dallasnews.com]
If only we can get Justin Bieber to do the same.
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The liberals just raised taxes again on his corporation North Pole Inc. and forced him to provide Obamacare for his elves. They also sued him for giving coal to bad children, saying it that every child should be a winner and it was unfair to black kids who grew up in worse situations than whites, so therefore Santa's policy was racial discrimination. The fine was $400,000,000.
He is no longer able to make a profit and therefore had to declare bankruptcy. Sorry kids. ;(
Vote for Trump in 2016 if you want Santa to come back. Make America great again!
What? I thought that Santa Claus is Canadian, based on his legitimate Canadian mailing address:
Santa used to be Canadian but that guy quit after Bill O'Reilly attacked him at Macy's and beat him into a pulp for wishing Bill 'Happy Holidays' instead of 'Merry Christmas': http://dailycurrant.com/2012/1... [dailycurrant.com]
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His main office is in Lapland, but apparently he's bankrupt [independent.co.uk] due to unpaid tax so you might not be able to visit this year.
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Santa's Village is in New Hampshire, in the White Mountains. I've driven by it but I've never been. I didn't grow up in the area. But, I've seen it. This time of year, it's closed but that's 'cause he's getting ready for the holiday season. I have sent a bunch of school kids there - I was invited to tag along but declined. It was one of the local recreation department things and wasn't fully funded so they weren't going to be able to go. Yeah yeah, I'm a sucker.
Intel Inside... seriously (Score:3)
powering the Tag Heuer Connected with an Intel Atom Z34XX processor
well i guess if you wanna be that dumb son of a bitch that dishes out $1500 for a watch that lasts "all day", you might as well enjoy the energy consumption of x86 on your wrist.
Re:Intel Inside... seriously (Score:4, Funny)
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Don't know where you got that 2W number from, but TAG Heuer's product description specifies:
"410mAh battery (minimum 25 hours battery life, based on typical usage)"
Assuming that's a Li-ion battery (3.7V nominal), that would translate into ~60 milliwatt average power (or less). Obviously that means the cpu sleeps most of the time. And perhaps even that tiny display consumes more than the cpu? Or various embedded sensors? Who knows.
Still a huge amount of power for a wristwatch imho. But hey a smartwatch is a little more than that...
As hot as the sun (Score:2)
Actually, with a contact area of roughly 2 square inches and a nominal maximum solar flux of about 1500W/m2, 2 Watts over a watch back really is about as hot as the sun here on earth.
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Intel don't seem to publish specs on the low power performance of that SoC, but it does seem like an odd choice for a watch.
Personally I prefer smart watches without a full face display. It's pointless, a simple notification LED and maybe a one line, monocrhome LCD at most is all you need and will extend battery life greatly.
Sony is releasing a device with a normal watch that runs for 3+ years on a normal watch battery, and then a secondary smart watch part that has a separate rechargeable battery and one w
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Intel don't seem to publish specs on the low power performance of that SoC, but it does seem like an odd choice for a watch.
it's likely that Intel gave them an extremely discounted rate. they did the same thing to get some smartphone designers to use the chip but wouldn't ya know, two models later and they were right back to ARM chips.
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It looks like an ugly, bright screen [tumblr.com] compared to the elegant look a luxury watch. Why are people buyng this?
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I hadn't even heard of this thing before seeing TFS, because I largely don't care about smart watches. But you're right - that's hideous. I'll keep my Movado.
the new Swiss watch crisis (Score:4, Insightful)
In the 1970s the Swiss makers found themselves under attack from the new cheaper quartz watches. (wikipedia for "quartz crisis") They could no longer plausibly claim that their handcrafted puffery resulted in more accurate timekeeping. So they had to change their marketing message from "accuracy" to "heirloom timepieces" bullshit (hence why you see messages like, "you don't just buy a Pat** Phi***, you only take care of it for the next generation." etc)
You would think that they (like religious science-deniers) would just accept that that is their niche, and stay with it. But now they have to catch up with the smart watch too, or risk losing the next generation of watch buyers.
So let's see how their message of "preserving an heirloom timepiece" stands up against the reality of a battery that lasts for 24 hours, and consumer electronics that get thrown out after 2 years... When the guts of your watch are indistinguishable from a $75 piece of crap, who's going to believe the marketing hype?
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I have a self-winding Tag I got for my 40th birthday. What I like about is never having to worry about replacing a battery. But on the other hand, I have a Seiko solar chronograph that doesn't need a battery replacement, either, or at least likely not in my lifetime.
Not sure it will be an heirloom, but when I was at a Tag dealer to get the bracelet replaced I noticed that none of the displayed Tags had my movement -- day and date chronograph, so maybe it will be marginally more valuable due to a less comm
Re: the new Swiss watch crisis (Score:1)
I have a Casio. It's currently about two years old but I was in Walmart last night and checked. They still have it for $27. It's one of the few hybrids of it's type, with a mechanical quartz analog dial and a tiny LCD display on the bottom for calendar and stopwatch/alarm function. In my opinion it uses the right technology for the right functions like few other watches.
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Mechanical watches can indeed be heirloom timepieces. I still wear my father's Longines Professional most days. He bought it when he was aircrew in the RAF in Cairo in 1941
Sounds not too dissimilar to my the watch I wear every day. It was my uncle's watch he got while in the US Air Force in Vietnam. It was an inexpensive watch at the time ($17.50 or $22.50 at the px I forget which) made by Benrus for the US military. The watch is over 50 years old and keeps great time for a mechanical watch (runs about 3 seconds +-1 second fast a day). Also unlike so many modern men's watches it has a really clean look with a black face, crisp white numbers, parkerized stainless steel case.
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I stopped wearing a watch ~20 years ago due to this fact. Started wearing one again last year because a smart watch reminds me subtly of my next appointment and helps with my tendency to get caught up in things and miss my next meeting. It's also more socially acceptable in my company to look at your watch during a conversation with someone then pull out your phone and if I can see that my boss is ending emails with more and more !'s in the subject line I can excuse myself from the conversation and put ou
Re: the new Swiss watch crisis (Score:1)
It gets all gunky when you're shoving your fist in the Crisco can and in other places, I take it.
Yes, abhorrent and unfashionable.
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If it were just logic, barely anyone would wear a wrist watch anyway. Wherever I go, publicly visible clocks are aboundant, and even my cell phone and my car have one too. I gave up wearing a wrist watch ten years ago, they just got in the way.
But all of those publicly visible clocks only tell you what time it is. They don't tell you when your next meeting is, or change their display to tell you it's in starting in five minutes. Nor do they do any of a hundred other things that your phone does... but when your phone is in your pocket it doesn't do those hundred other things that well, either.
I stopped wearing a watch about the same time you did, but started wearing a smartwatch last year.
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Well, advertising is full of bulshit, we already know that.
Still, as an engineer, I have a fondness for those little, mechanical thingies. I have several mechanical watches, but I don't wear a watch. Not that they are particularly expensive, but it is a joy to look at those tiny wheels and things and think of the amount of cleverness that goes into making it work so well. Maybe I'm just a hopeless romantic.
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In 2 years, you can trade in your Tag Heuer smartwatch for a $1500 discount on a 'real watch'.
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So let's see how their message of "preserving an heirloom timepiece" stands up against the reality of a battery that lasts for 24 hours,
Why are you talking as if the choice is one or the other. It's not like this watch is absurdly expensive. This battle is quite different from the early days of quartz where their biggest selling point was high quality = accurate time. That had to be refaced. The watch is now a fashion accessory and the introduction of a smart watch doesn't change this: case in point Apple's first release in the market included that gold piece of idiocy.
Genius (Score:1)
Being the genius that revived brands such as Blancpain and Hublot, Biver has positioned Tag Heuer as the first luxury watchmaker that enters smartwatch business with a 'big bang' and ready to use large eco-system courtesy of Android Wear.
What a visionary! Who would've ever thought to do exactly the same thing that everybody else is doing and offer a wearable device leveraging the android operating system. Truly a luminary in his field.
Re: Genius (Score:2)
Surprisingly few corpo types are capable of comitting on such a scale.
It's still a bargain (Score:4, Funny)
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Comparing it to Apple Watch for $10000.
A company can only get as stupid about prices as their customers demand. I guess Tag isn't quite as popular with rappers who can't seem to spend enough money on a wristwatch, or tech geeks who just loooove rose gold finishes.
Compared to Apple Watch (Score:1)
Tag Heuer Android watch:
2,000/week x 52 weeks = 104,000 units per year
Apple Watch:
3.9 million units last quarter according to IDC.
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No, I think it's a "Tag is a little out of their element if they already can't keep up with demand, at a rate of 0.9% of one of their competitors" argument. It was just the Apple watch that he mentioned - no mention of Samsung, Motorola, or LG.
This just in: electronics manufacturers are better at manufacturing electronics at scale than boutique mechanical watch makers.
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No, it is a different market. Apple isn't selling those watches for $1,500 each at that quantity.
Your comparison is like saying Lamborghini is vastly outsold by Toyota, so why bother. Different niche.
A lot of negativity here (Score:5, Funny)
So if you cynically thought Tag Heuer were just shoving some mass produced part from an Intel factory in Malaysia into a chunky metal case and pocketing the enormous markup then think again.
Maybe I'm just too poor... (Score:2)
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Yeah, and if you make more than $35k/year you're included in that global 1%, doesn't mean you've got the loose $ to buy a $1,500 watch.
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Err...you don't have to be a 1%-er to have enough disposable income to drop a mere $1500 on a watch. I mean, no, a middle class person doesn't buy on every day, maybe once every couple years...at most.
What is your definition of 1%-er? To me, that the folks raking in billions a year. Not a middle to upper middle class guy making around the $200-$250K a year mark.
That type salary can easily afford thi
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Something funny with these numbers (Score:2)
So they've been making 1200/week and so far they've sold 100,000 in a month? That means they've been manufacturing them and stockpiling them for the last 83 months (nearly 7 years) prior to launching them.
I smell some made up numbers put into a press release and then blindly copied by the meeja.
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I should of course have said 83 weeks, not months. The number still smell though.
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They haven't sold a single one to an actual customer, as far as I know.
These are all orders from retailers/distributors.
Re:Microsoft's comment (Score:2)
100 000 units? Wow - could you talk to our Surface team? /Microsoft
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Microsoft sold nearly 1.5 million Surface Pro tablets in Q1 2015 alone...
Lost opportunity to set themselves apart. (Score:2)
TAG Heuer lost an opportunity to set themselves apart from the "childish" smartwatches from tech companies. They could have added, on top of the LCD (but below the touch-sensitive glass), proper clock hands driven by a precision step motor. This way it could vary the functions by changing the background labels and dynamically positioning the clock hands accordingly. So in clock mode it would look like a proper "adult" clock instead of a "child toy" like the other smartwatches.
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What about when your desired function is reading messages, and you've got two big, useless hands in the way.
Tim Cook is kicking himself. (Score:2)
Slashvertisement Lies (Score:2)
According to a report on Bloomberg, the watchmaker has received orders over 100,000 pieces of the Connected watch from retailers and dealers - while it is not a direct end-user orders, it is a good indicator of demand in the market.
The only place I have heard about this thing is on Slashdot. The "articles" linked to are on SlashGear. That's a Slashvertisement inside a Slashvertisement, folks!
And a big EL OH EL at the idea of retailer/distributor orders being a good indicator of market demand, ESPECIALLY in a new market with a new player with a high price tag.
Next year they will use red bull to increase sales (Score:1)