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BlackBerry Key2 is the 'Most Secure Android Smartphone', Company Claims (betanews.com) 53

The Key2 smartphone, which BlackBerry unveiled earlier this week, is the "most secure Android smartphone," the Canadian company claims. Brian Fagioli, writing for BetaNews: While BlackBerry no longer makes smartphones, it does license its name to a company called TCL which makes Android devices that carry the branding -- and sometimes, a physical keyboard. It isn't just slapping the BlackBerry name on a random low-quality Android phone, however. Actually, these TCL devices have been fairly well received thanks to an adherence to traditional BlackBerry designs. Today, TCL unveils its latest such smartphone, called "KEY2," and it looks quite nice. In fact, the company says it is "the most secure Android smartphone."
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  • by UnknowingFool ( 672806 ) on Sunday June 10, 2018 @11:10AM (#56760182)
    Blackberry: "We have the most secure Android smartphone."
    Hackers: "Challenge accepted"
    • Blackberry: "We have the most secure Android smartphone."
      Hackers: "Challenge accepted"

      Well, yes, adenoidal teenagers think this whole thing is a giant game of capture the flag FTW!

      But real security is a complex economic trade-off between the cost of the attack, the value of the attack, and the law of supply and demand (one corner of which concerns the long-term warehousing of former teenagers who outlived their long-arm-of-the-law immortality halo).

      Challenge accepted by the Red Bull movable feast of the soc

      • Why do people hack anything? In the case of current smart phones one primary motive is money. Does Blackberry have enough of a market share for hackers to consider? No.

        Another is the for the sake of it. All Blackberry has done with that kind of statement is paint a big target on them.

  • But literally the lowest bar you have to overcome. Skinniest obese kid, congrats.
    • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

      Not really, no.

      Basic Android is pretty secure these days, with FDE enabled by default. But there is also a market for extra security on top, such as Copperhead OS and Samsung Knox.

      Having another competitor in the market is a good thing.

  • by williamyf ( 227051 ) on Sunday June 10, 2018 @11:17AM (#56760198)

    First, TCL+Blackberry=Blackberry mobile.

    Blackberry mobile is one of the few android makers (if not the only one) which assigns a crytpo key *in hardware* to each device to protect it from tampering in the field. They do not use a Vanilla linux kernel, instead opting for a Hardened linux.

    Running Snoopsnitch reveals a very, very green field, meaning that all the patches are "really" applied. And not like some other android phones, which report a patch level, but in reality do not apply the fixes...

    It also has an app called DTEK, which lets you see in depth what your apps are up to.

    More info in this old but still relevant article:

    https://www.engadget.com/2015/... [engadget.com]

    Of course, if you do not want a PKB, then you are equaly (or more) secure, and have a longer SW support with an iPhone.

    • They're also yet another Chinese company buying up failing western companies to gain market share and making partnerships with other well known companies to push their products with someone else's name on them.

      I find it hard to trust a company that is afraid of branding their products with their own name.

      How is an article from 2015 still relevant?
      Blackberry don't make Blackberry phones anymore. TCL does since buying the name in 2016

      • How is an article from 2015 still relevant?
        Blackberry don't make Blackberry phones anymore. TCL does since buying the name in 2016

        even the priv from 2015 (featured in the article) was designed by Blackberry in waterloo, canada and built by TCL. Based on that early experience, Blackberry and TCL made an agreement, were Blackberry in Waterloo, canada, Licensed the Brand, patents (PKB among them), manufacturing rights and Worldwide sales (Except for india, malasia and indonesia) to Blackberry Mobile (a division of TCL).

        Blackberry in Waterloo, canada still writes/oversees/customizes the SW for said phones to this day, so TCL is not at lib

    • Hopefully with the EU wanting Google to decouple their apps and let other manufacturers install their stuff instead, maybe we can get back some of the better Blackberry ecosystem. Blackberry seems to be one of the only providers that regularly applies system updates. Samsung seems a bit of a lottery for updates.
  • BlackBerry (Score:4, Funny)

    by Citizen of Earth ( 569446 ) on Sunday June 10, 2018 @11:25AM (#56760234)
    Maybe it is the most secure, but no one will ever know.
    • by Anonymous Coward

      Maybe it is the most secure, but no one will ever know.

      How do you think they maintain that claim...

  • Call me when its app security allows disabling network access when I am not manually running the app
    Call me when app permissions has option to provide fake location, contacts, storage, etc so apps will still run but not have access to real data

  • Sure sure... (Score:4, Informative)

    by XSportSeeker ( 4641865 ) on Sunday June 10, 2018 @11:41AM (#56760318)

    People have very short term memory, it's like this never happebed at all ever:
    https://www.theverge.com/2016/... [theverge.com]

    • Right.

      And then there was the expensive BlackBerry PRIV which they advertised with the same claim – and which was not only denied the upgrade to Android 7 everybody had reason to expect, no, they also stopped delivering security updates not long after you still could buy a new one.

      • by Anonymous Coward

        To be fair, from day #1 they stated when the update cycle would end. And no promise was made to upgrade to a new version of Android -- just that the existing version would be patched.

        At the very least, you should not complain about them ending updates, when they said they would -- right from the get go. That's a hell of a lot more than most corps disclose.

        Lastly? They did perform an update (outside of their EVERY SINGLE MONTH minimum, support updates) POST expired support cycle.

        Let me guess. You bought

        • Re:Sure sure... (Score:4, Interesting)

          by demon driver ( 1046738 ) on Sunday June 10, 2018 @03:46PM (#56761256) Journal

          You just don't get it. Marketing a smartphone as the most SECURE Android phone in the world is verging on fraud if SECURITY updates stop a few weeks after they sell it to you. What I did read, and what they wrote in their update policy for that matter, is completely irrelevant in that aspect.

          • by AmiMoJo ( 196126 )

            Surely it's fraud if it needs security updates, since they are an admission that it's not actually secure.

            • by sherr ( 3751965 )
              That's not how any software anywhere works, and if someone's telling you otherwise they're lying to you. Flaws are discovered after-the-fact, and they need to be fixed.
      • I got a security update for my (Bell Canada) PRIV a week or two ago.

  • Blackberry needs to just die already. It's set my field back by 10 years.

    We just switched from blackberries (real, honest to god made by RIM ones) to iphones last year. We finally have a modern smartphone with usable apps that doesn't waste half the device on a useless physical keyboard with tiny-ass keys made for a marmoset.

    When I say usable apps, I don't mean nonsense like Waze or Angry Birds. I mean real business productivity apps. Simple things like copying and pasting or opening documents were

    • by Anonymous Coward

      We finally have a modern smartphone with usable apps that doesn't waste half the device on a useless physical keyboard with tiny-ass keys made for a marmoset.

      Some of us like physical keyboards you insensitive clod!

    • by Anonymous Coward

      It wasn't Blackberry that set you back 10 years, it was whomever decided to go with the wrong device for your needs that did.

      There are those for whom the physical keyboard or other Blackberry features are still a best fit.

  • I have a TCL television, and when it's connected to the internet, it used screenshots of whatever youtube video I'm watching to serve up ads on the TV. It was so annoying that I stopped using the built in Roku component of the TV. I'm willing to concede that it might be the Roku side of things, and not the TCL side, however it does leave a layer of skepticism.
  • by rsilvergun ( 571051 ) on Sunday June 10, 2018 @01:04PM (#56760630)
    Who's CEO argued phones having backdoors was a good thing? No thanks, you're the last group of people I want anywhere near my data.
  • About security, or BlackBerry.

  • I have been a happy Blackberry user for years.

    The BlackBerry Passport is the best phone i ever used, the user experience of the UI and the interactions over the OS (under QNX) are amazing, the physical keyboard is great to with the gesture recognition or whatever they call it, let alone the Hub that should be a standard on every "smart" phone.

    I had high hopes for the blackberry OS after the version 10 i still don't understand why they are letting that platform die, they should've opensourced it so peo

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