SUSE Linux Sold For $2.5 Billion (reuters.com) 96
Archangel Michael writes: Reuters is reporting that Britain's Micro Focus has agreed to sell its SUSE open-source enterprise software business to Swedish buyout group EQT Partners for $2.535 billion, lifting its shares 6 percent. Micro Focus, a serial acquirer that has been struggling to get to grips with a $8.8 billion Hewlett Packard Enterprise deal, said on Monday it would use some of the proceeds to reduce debt and could return some of the rest to shareholders. SUSE is used by banks, universities and government agencies around the world and is a pioneer in enterprise-grade Linux software serving companies such as Air India, Daimler and Total.
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All the main distros use it because it is good, a huge improvement.
If it is causing you problems, my advice is to look for some kind of "linux for dummies" type of book. Or better, stop pretending you're a sysadmin and breaking your web terminal; try sticking to the stuff in the GUI menu.
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I wish I could get to a command line prompt, nevermind a GUI, when using systemd/GNU/Linux. Too often I've experienced a systemd/GNU/Linux installation failing to boot fully because systemd screwed up in some obscure and dumb way. It doesn't matter how good you are at using the command line if the systemd/GNU/Linux installation can't even reliably get that far in the boot process!
I've never gad that experience with systemd installing Mageia6. What distro are you using?
Re: Please get rid of systemd! (Score:5, Informative)
on a headless debian system, I had the joy of systemd dropping out to an emergency shell
Trouble was SSH wasn't up and running at this point so it was impossible to access this emergency shell.
The reason for the emergency, an external data drive wasn't present.
Re: Please get rid of systemd! (Score:4, Insightful)
The reason for the emergency, an external data drive wasn't present.
So admin did something incredibly stupid requiring the automounting of an external device at boot time and is upset that his misconfiguration caused his system to boot.
Got it.
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pre-systemd, windows would sometimes leave its FS in an "unclean" state, and upstart(?) would happily boot providing a warning about failing to mount the FS.
post-systemd, In the same situation, I get dropped into a limited shell, with no reason given, and a note to look at the log.
It's not a big issue for me, fixable, I can just remove those items from fstab (Note - I did not add them, the *buntu installer did!) - but sti
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This is *NOT* a problem by the sysadmin, this is a problem of change of behavior of the operating system caused by systemd. You will have a hard time convincing anyone that
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And my wife married somebody who likes systemd, so her computers work fine. Go figure!
Also, RAID 1 implies your data is really really important. If your data isn't important, and you're happy having it run on just one drive, why the fuck did you set it up for RAID 1? Give me a break. If you don't want your computer to spend time caring about your data, just use the second drive to hold regular backups from the first drive. If you want RAID 1 to be fully resistant to the loss of one drive, you need three dri
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You'd have done better to re-read the thread since you forgot what was being talked about.
You seem really confused about if your data is really important, or not really important. Make up your fucking mind, and then your problems are solved and you can take responsibility for the administration of your own damn system.
Fuck an A, man, sysadmining one box isn't actually hard.
Re: Please get rid of systemd! (Score:4, Insightful)
I use a CentOS 7 as a development workstation and multiple test, staging and production servers. All with systemd. It is reliable and gives me no trouble at all.
Re:Please get rid of systemd! (Score:5, Interesting)
Wrong. All the professional systems admins I know curse it, it is bad. I admin hundreds of systems and am sorry I'm being forced to upgrade them into the bloated, unstable, needlessly complicated garbage that is systemd.
It does not belong on enterprise servers, it is bad enginering.
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This. I've yet to meet a full time unix admin (and that doesn't mean a basement dweller who managed to install ubuntu on their laptop) who actually liked it or could make a good case for it.
It's usually something along the lines of "well, yes, can't deny that our service (non-)management could use some improvement so I can see the original drive behind systemd, but it's a complete dumpster fire at this point"
Now if you'll excuse me, I have to figure out why rc.local is run before half the other services; w
Re: Please get rid of systemd! (Score:1)
I haven't had any trouble with systemD on my infrastructure. Well, not since I rebuilt it all on OpenBSD.
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rare I'd agree with AC on technical matter of systems administration, but OpenBSD is indeed a far superior server platform compared to the Linux with which I make most my living. It even has a new sane init system it rolled out recently.
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Ok, to counter your anecdote, there may be thousands of Linux admins that are in favor of systemd; but there are millions of Windows admins who will praise it even more than systemd fanboys praise their retarded little^Whuge project.
So by your metric, Windows servers are largely superior to Linux/systemd. Thanks for playing.
Re:Please get rid of systemd! (Score:5, Interesting)
All the main distros use it because it is good, a huge improvement.
SystemD is 2010s version of Microsoft wizards of the 1990s.
... wait, what ARE you doing? What IS that? Never mind, I'll just ignore it." And it gets confused or out of sync. And on any breakage, even better, now YOU'RE confused as well, and even worse YOU literally don't know what's going on.
;-) you begin to wonder.
They're great. They really are. They're easy to use, helpful, and just work.
That is until they don't. And then you're screwed
"Domain interpreters", if you will, are superb at what they do. They make all of the hard stuff "go away", kinda like programming libraries. That is, as long as you stay WITHIN their domain and do things as expected.
The moment you take one minor baby step outside what they expect or control, it all goes to Hell. It's confused because: "You're doing
SystemD hasn't broken on me yet, but I've heard horror stores of non-standard or even not-quite-mainstream configs that work and then they suddenly won't. And if you look at some of the bugs Pottering has declared WONTFIX (referred to by that random ignored bastion of unworthyness [slashdot.org]
The best thing about domain interpreters is that in a must-work complex situation is that you have to call for help. And who better than your distro maintainer? And then no reason at all, guess who SystemD's main author, Pottering, is employed by?
Oh, Debian is the literal base for a bunch of distros, including Ubuntu. RedHat also supports a few you might have heard of. You might be interested in the Debian vote for SystemD [slashdot.org].
I'm a RHCE, SuSE something, Microsoft something, Novell CNE, and what-all else, or at least was -- retired, so guess I don't count anymore. Once I get my storage usage under control, I'm beginning a move to FreeBSD.
If you've "broken your web terminal" you should run "reset" [stackexchange.com]. And your homepage seems to be currently down, BTW.
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SystemD hasn't broken on me yet
You must have read the manual. Don't do that. What you're supposed to do is assume nothing has changed from the sysvinit days, copy and paste everything, not learn how to setup a unit file, and then complain when it all goes to shit.
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All the main distros use it because it is good, a huge improvement.
If it is causing you problems, my advice is to look for some kind of "linux for dummies" type of book. Or better, stop pretending you're a sysadmin and breaking your web terminal; try sticking to the stuff in the GUI menu.
you are kidding right?
systemd is bringing MS and Apple grade development to Linux.
do you remember this https://github.com/systemd/sys... [github.com] ?
this one https://github.com/systemd/sys... [github.com] ?
and there's another ridiculous one with the usernames allowed or forbidden by logind.
The problem with systemd is not systemd, but its dev team.
The worst part of pettering's(I know he hates it when his name is mi-spelled) development is the fact that he chooses sometimes to have systemd taking decisions because systemd take into
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Maybe distros are happier without slowflake neckbeards as users? Maybe their use cases don't rank very high.
Maybe the stories of woe they tell would turn out to be total bullshit and they don't know how SysV works either. Maybe they flood the user forums of these distros with fake complaints, and people from the distros have spent the time to look into these horrible-sounding bugs only to find out, they're not bugs, they're not even misfeatures, the users just don't understand how the features they turned o
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Read a book or take a class if there's something you can't figure out. Don't ossify in place or you'll be first on the layoffs list.
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Which book?
Perhaps this book [amazon.com]
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hobbyist projects like Devuan
Anecdata: Devuan seems surprisingly solid so far, doesn't feel like a hobby project at all. I've deployed it to the computer of my parents after their systemd based distro went down the shitter (RIP, rc.local); the only issue I had to implement manually was a bit of shutdown from GUI/switch user/etc logic.
Would use it on my own computers too if I weren't using *BSD.
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Perhaps that's what the grandparent is talking about
Then it's not RIP if it's supported, is it? I'm pretty sure that's not what gp meant.
You dimwit, that was exactly what GP (me) meant. And it being "supported" doesn't mean it works. In Debian, rc.local fires some time in the middle of the boot process, not at the end.
The rest of your comment made me throw up a little in my mouth. I recommend not trying to make statements about things you have no knowledge of (e.g. BSD, and possibly systemd too)
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You're mistaking the action of walking forward with the act of actual progress.
Most insightful line I've read all month.
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Yep. Newer is better, even Joe Sixpack knows that. Since Software itself is a comparably new concept, it has to go double for it. /s
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Why are you systemd haters still thinking that systemd is exact replica of sysvinit, but newer code?
Thinking that this what systemd haters think is next level stupid. Nobody thinks this since it is obvious that systemd is a huge crapton of stuff beyond that. Hell even the init program consists of dozens of kilolines worth of source (cue you demonstrating your lack of understanding by telling me the source file isn't that much bigger than sysvinit's).
It is not. It is a completely different, new system, with new paradigms.
Yeah. And both the system and the paradigms are a pile of crap. It's confused people like you who think "newer is better" in the software world, because i
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> I would love to use a modern, well-supported enterprise-grade Linux distro that doesn't use systemd.
Why not use Devuan?
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I'm still using SLES11 for our remaining Novell servers, for that reason. Can't last forever though.
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systemd is actually pretty good. Basically, people have this idea that systemd forces you to do things one way and it takes away your choice to do it the old way. This is false and its a major misconception. systemd does not take away any functionality, it only adds additional functionality. What this means is you can still start services exactly as you have before. If you want to use sysvinit init, you can, just as you have before. In fact, it gives you a choice of what kind of init style to use. If you wa
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I could not more strongly oppose getting rid of systemd. Those of us who have used its features would basically be fucked. Since systemd does not deny you the right to start your services the way you always have because systemd does not take away any existing functionality, its fully backward compatable with your sysvinit scripts, systemd does not take away anything from you. Those of us who have been using systemd's advanced features would be harmed if you had your way. this is all about YOU trying to FORC
What is Slackware worth? (Score:5, Funny)
If SuSE is worth $2.5B, then what is Slackware worth?
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SuSe sells support. For money.
Slackware provides man pages. For free.
Free * $2.5B = ?
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SuSe sells support. For money.
Slackware provides man pages. For free.
Free * $2.5B = ?
Well gee, when you put it that way ...
Re:What is Slackware worth? (Score:5, Insightful)
When you tell people to RTFM, they often don't realize the value provided! ;)
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Re:What is Slackware worth? (Score:4, Funny)
Free * $2.5B = ?
MySQL?
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Try offering Patrick a bottle of good bourbon. You never know.
Captcha: enemas
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I doubt Slackware has much value to enterprise users.
Maybe I'm wrong, but I could hardly imagine an enterprise with hundreds, or thousands, of servers running Slackware, or Gentoo.
Time is money, and the considerable extra maintenance expenses cannot be justified.
Slackware and Gentoo are fine for home users who dont' mind mucking around with the systems a lot.
I am running a Gentoo varient myself.
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Why buy it ? (Score:1)
Ahah !!! What a bunch of suckers ! You can get it for free on the website !!! ;)
Chump suckers (Score:1)
Interesting (Score:5, Interesting)
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Ex-SUSE employee here. I doubt this changes anything for them.
For those unaware, SUSE has a far larger market share on the Mainframe running Linux than RH. SUSE was the original partner with IBM in porting Linux to mainframes and the first to offer a fully supported distro...years before RH had the same. Moreover, in comparison, the SUSE flavor has lots of special features specific for mainframes, including HA baked into the offering.
Having actually run SLES on a mainframe, the performance can be astoundin
Now That's a Name I Haven't Heard In a Long Time (Score:1)
Is that the same Micro Focus that once offered a COBOL compiler for Radio Shack and CP/M computers?
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What SUSE says about this (Score:5, Informative)
Blog post: https://www.suse.com/c/further... [suse.com]
Wal-mart (Score:4, Informative)
What are the advantages of SuSE? (Score:2)
Honest question.
What does SuSE offer that I cannot get from other distros?
Why I don't use any BSD for a desktop (Score:2)
I used FreeBSD for my desktop for about two years.
There is a lot to love about FreeBSD. I think BSD would make a better server than any systemd linux.
However, if you want up-to-date desktop apps, FreeBSD does not cut it. I think other versions of BSD would be even worse.
I felt lucky to have apps that were only one year out of date. A lot of things, like dropbox, will not work at all.
BSDs are dependent on linux for their apps. Everything runs in a linux compatibility layer. If linux apps ever become dependen
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> However, if you want up-to-date desktop apps, FreeBSD does not cut it. I think other versions of BSD would be even worse.
Speaking about desktop FreeBSD is like Fedora. The same fresh and untested software. I compared them side by side. Found 5 reproducible crashes in end user software. Also systemd is less a headache on desktop and FreeBSD wifi management really sucks.
> Maybe the best solution for systemd haters is Devaun?
As long as it's not backed up with Enterprise behind it means nothing for a real business usage. FreeBSD is not backed up either. No difference.