Tesla Will Close Most of Its Stores, Only Sell Cars Online 96
Tesla CEO Elon Musk said in a call with reporters Thursday that the company will only sell its vehicles online. As a result, the electric carmaker will close most of its stores over the "next few months." The Verge reports: Tesla will keep some of its retail locations open, which the company described as "a small number of stores in high-traffic locations remaining as galleries, showcases and Tesla information centers." The decision to shift away from brick-and-mortar retail is necessary if the company is to remain financially sustainable, Tesla said. The company's finances have stabilized somewhat in recent months, but Tesla still operates on very tight margins. Tesla said in a blog post: "You can now buy a Tesla in North America via your phone in about 1 minute, and that capability will soon be extended worldwide. We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn't needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for a full refund. Quite literally, you could buy a Tesla, drive several hundred miles for a weekend road trip with friends and then return it for free."
The company announced the move at the same time it said it will finally begin to sell its long-promised $35,000 Model 3.
The company announced the move at the same time it said it will finally begin to sell its long-promised $35,000 Model 3.
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Its the 3rd electric car story in a row...
Re:Could this be the fastest dup on the road? (Score:4, Funny)
I know! It's quite shocking, really...
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The "editor" is ripping stories straight off HN's homepage. That's what gives.
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Re:I'd Love For Tesla To Actually Honor Nikola Tes (Score:5, Informative)
Well then (Score:2, Interesting)
No need to consider a Tesla. If I can't feel how it drives, how the seat feels, feedback from steering, wind and road noise, and everything else which can make or break such a purchase, I'll cross this off my list.
For those that don't mind this, more power, but some of us like to know what we're getting before we put down cash.
Re: Well then (Score:1, Insightful)
Just schedule the test drive then bruh.
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Re:Well then (Score:5, Insightful)
You can still get a test drive. But also, Tesla doesn't need you. They've got thousands of people lined up to buy these cars. They're probably counting on word of mouth to keep things going for the foreseeable future, and from what I can tell, it's a viable plan.
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It's more demand for electric cars in general. All the new ones coming out that are even half decent sell out almost immediately.
Re:Well then (Score:4, Insightful)
If they have thousands of people lined up to buy their cars - then why can I order Model S and Model X in 2 weeks or so?
If they didn't, you could have one tomorrow.
Porsche will take away the buyers from the Model S and X.
Could very well be, but we'll see how it fares in the real world. I think the S will still do OK, but perhaps not the X.
Tesla is probably losing money on the lower end Model 3 (but may have positive cash flow).
Third party analysis says they should be making money on each unit.
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LOL no they don't, February sales numbers just came in and it's not looking good. Demand has dropped considerably
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How is this different to every other auto company? Not excusing the problems but Tesla shits on the competition. No way in hell Hyundai will give me a loaner if my car fucks up the repairer will but Hyundai wouldn't do shit.
Did you read the summary? (Score:3)
We are also making it much easier to try out and return a Tesla, so that a test drive prior to purchase isn't needed. You can now return a car within 7 days or 1,000 miles for a full refund. Quite literally, you could buy a Tesla, drive several hundred miles for a weekend road trip with friends and then return it for free."
Re: Did you read the summary? (Score:1)
That does mean that you have to pay for the car before you test drive it. I'm not aware of any other car where you first have to pay the full price of before you can test drive.
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No need to consider a Tesla. If I can't feel how it drives, how the seat feels, feedback from steering, wind and road noise, and everything else which can make or break such a purchase, I'll cross this off my list.
So you prefer to go to the dealship rather than say take advantage of a full 7 day trial that Tesla offer?
In the words of the internet: WUT?
Mistake (Score:5, Interesting)
This is a mistake. A car is not like most other purchases, and while Teslas aren't cheap, Tesla isn't so far removed from traditional mass-market sales as to be able to take a page from luxury-performance makes like Ferrari and sell cars to buyers that haven't driven the particular model in question yet.
Sure, there are some people that would be willing to buy a car untested, but I don't think that's most buyers, and I don't care how good Tesla's return policy is, it's a huge hassle to buy something incredibly expensive and to then return it, especially when financing is involved. It's not zero-risk.
Re: Mistake (Score:2, Insightful)
Something like 500,000 people were willing to put a down payment on a Model 3 when Tesla started taking orders, years before the car was even in production. I don't think test drives are going to be a big issue here.
Anyway Tesla has stated that you can return the car within the first 7 days for a complete refund, so if you really want a test drive just go ahead and buy one. 7 days is a much longer test drive than you'll get from any other manufacturer.
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"Anyway Tesla has stated that you can return the car within the first 7 days for a complete refund"
People haven't even been able to get their deposits back, you think Tesla is going to give their $50k back? Tesla is broke, especially after the $billion payment due tomorrow.
And how does that work with the loan these buyers have to take out? Can't just cancel that for a refund, the bank will want interest on a buyout. That's a several thousand dollar test drive.
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?? in what jurisdiction? Pretty much everywhere I've been, when you return stuff, you get the sales tax back too.
Indeed, on the California Sales and Use Tax return, Section B, item 3--- returned taxable merchandise is a deduction.
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Something like 500,000 people were willing to put a down payment on a Model 3 when Tesla started taking orders, years before the car was even in production. I don't think test drives are going to be a big issue here.
I wonder how many of those were for a $35,000 car which they were misled to believe would be on sale from the get go. I wonder how many asked for their money back, or desperate to hold their place paid more than they original intended to spend.
Anyway Tesla has stated that you can return the car within the first 7 days for a complete refund, so if you really want a test drive just go ahead and buy one. 7 days is a much longer test drive than you'll get from any other manufacturer.
Oh that's great! So to test drive a car, you just need to have $35,000 plus taxes in your bank, transfer all that money to Tesla, wait for the money to clear, wait weeks/months for the car to be delivered, take time off work to take receipt, drive the car once, demand
Re:Mistake (Score:5, Interesting)
For "most other purchases" I also need to see the item before I will buy it. The internet is a terrible way to sell things to be honest. I want to know if clothes will fit, I want to compare items nearby, see how heavy they are, and so forth. My friends who say they shop online also say they send back a lot of the stuff they get if it turns out to not fit or otherwise not what they wanted, but that seems amazingly wasteful.
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Ditto. I don't mind ordering online IF the product is the same exact model after seeing, trying, etc. physically in person in stores or someone.
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Whatever (Score:1)
"Stuff that matters" Or is it "throw shit up and see what sticks" these days?
Re: Musk is a con (Score:5, Funny)
He really is. He started PayPal and that was a total flop! Good luck finding anyone who's ever heard of it anymore. SpaceX never did anything worthy of note, except blow up rockets before they went out of business. Now you have this failure of a company which has no mass market vehicles and doesn't have the highest market cap of any American car company. Besides, he makes all of his cars over seas, not in America, so I'm excited to see it fail. It's like everything he touches fails. What a con!
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Yes, click the first link for each...
"PayPal was established in December 1998 as Confinity,[13] a company that developed security software for handheld devices[14] founded by Max Levchin, Peter Thiel, Luke Nosek, and Ken Howery.[13][15] PayPal was developed and launched as a money transfer service at Confinity in 1999, funded by John Malloy from BlueRun Ventures.[16][17]"
"Tesla was founded in July 2003, by engineers Martin Eberhard and Marc Tarpenning, under the name Tesla Motors."
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Sweet Jesus the Musk Cult is something else! Google does not say Musk founded either company. Just because Google Images shows a bunch of Musk's pictures when you type that in doesn't mean that's the answer to the question. Read the history of either company.
Paypal bought out Musk's company a couple years after they were established, that's how he became involved with PayPal and made his fortune to later take control of the already existing Tesla Motors. I bet you didn't know that Musk was later fired by
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Musk started X.com. When PayPal and X.com combined forces, they kept the PayPal name.
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P.S. SpaceX, if you haven't realised, is burning through money and nearly gone bankrupt several times. So has Tesla.
Elon relies on having a huge personal stash of money to burn. And governments, etc. let him because then they get cheap space launches (at risk, but cheap) because he and his investors are basically subsidising the launches and taking the heat for any mistakes.
https://seekingalpha.com/artic... [seekingalpha.com]
Both companies have been around for - what? 15-20 years? Musk is rich - he got rich off Paypal bu
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Seeking Alpha is just a collection of personal opinions.. which happen to be pretty much exclusively favoring $TSLA short sellers.
Anyway, a lot of the very successful, very big companies we have today, including Apple and Amazon came close to going out of business. It's just on par for being a disruptive company. If you have a good growth plan (both Tesla and SpaceX have this) then there will usually be investors willing to invest.
What is far from opinion is that Tesla produces a shitload of cars and that
Re: Musk is a con (Score:2)
Cars are going electric, within the next 20 years. Tesla alone made that possible. Now it may have happened anyway, but it was certainly sped up by Tesla. The same way the iPhone sped up smartphones.
SpaceX pioneered reusable rockets, the same way.
The hatred towards Elon is despicable, he has mainly done good things.
The pyramid scheme begins to fall (Score:1)
Over-complicated, failure prone vehicle.
When this one fails, it's going to be bad. No repair, no parts, no support. Poor build quality.
Yeah. Buy a car that you can't see. Just buy it online.
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Over-complicated, failure prone vehicle.
ICEs are baroque collections of parts whirling around one another. EVs aren't. Which one is over-complicated?
Next step... (Score:4, Funny)
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....to further reduce costs, Telsa will sell cars only in kit, to be assemled by the user.
Model 3 production rates have increased dramatically since the beginning of 2019. [bloomberg.com] I suspect that has made a significant impact on production costs.
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FYI Tom Randall is not considered a reliable source for these things
At long last (Score:2, Insightful)
I think the more alarming part is no show rooms, no test drives. Tesla must be hoping to hell that people are so willing to buy their cars without being able to looking at or driving them
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All car makes have the $2000 upsell. Tesla's problem may be they won't have any more sales people to push the up sell.
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In this case I suspect the $2000 buys you a signed software key. I'm sure the base model will also be subject to the usual other kinds of upselling where there is something more tangible being offered - paint job, rims, mood lighting or whatever.
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Much easier to test drive than to buy and return (Score:3)
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There are 300,000 people in the metropolitan area I live in and the nearest Tesla location for service is 1 hour away. They need to add locations, not subtract and they need to hire and train more people for service work.
This news is not about service centers (although you can view and test drive there). It's solely about the standalone showrooms such as the ones in major malls (in the USA).
Tesla has said it's planning to open lots more service centers, BTW. Progress there is slow; but they are definitely not closing any service center.
Missing the point (Score:1)
I'm shocked people aren't catching on to what's happening here. Tesla is aggressively positioned in the market. Competitors are trying to ramp up their own EVs with mixed success, and they're doing it slowly. If they get up to full production the traditional manufacturers could muscle Tesla out of the market.
So what does Musk do? He pushes the envelope to dump cars at a desirable price to SATURATE THE MARKET. He's sucking down market share... pulling the air out of the room. EVs still have drawbacks, the l
cause and effect (Score:2)
I'm thinking this is in a big part a reaction to the massive stones they've put into Teslas way, trying to force them into a traditional retailer model instead of direct sales. After a while you ask yourself if the hassle is really worth it.
For the moment anyway the order queues are full, so not a big deal. But I would be surprised if not at least one person inside Tesla is thinking about a new approach that doesn't have the issues the old one had. I quite like the "showroom" idea. Maybe if you can't buy a