Huawei's Flagship Mate 30 Pro Has Impressive Specs But No Google (theverge.com) 58
The Mate 30 series of smartphones from Huawei is now official, starting with the Mate 30 Pro and the Mate 30. From a report: The announcement of Mate 30 series comes at a difficult time for Huawei, whose presence on the USA's entity list prevents US companies from doing business with the Chinese firm. Google said last month that these phones won't ship with Google's apps and services, nor will they come with the Play Store pre-installed, which is how most Android users outside of China download their apps. Huawei's response to the problem has been to nurture its own ecosystem of apps that are available through the Huawei App Gallery. The company announced that rather than shipping with Google's services pre-installed, the Mate 30 Series would instead ship with the Huawei Mobile Services (HMS) Core, which it claims is already integrated with over 45,000 apps. The company announced that it was investing $1 billion into its software ecosystem with an investment that would be split across a development fund, a user growth fund, and a marketing fund. Here's what happens when you attempt to sideload an app developed by Google.
freedom of choice (Score:5, Funny)
I'm glad we have a choice. Surveillance by google, or surveillance by the Chinese government (who probably don't care what I do, as long as I don't mouth off about the Chinese government).
Re:freedom of choice (Score:4, Informative)
He didn't say that. He said the Chinese government wouldn't care unless he would mouth off about the Chinese government. He would still be able to mouth off the Chinese government, only that then their interest towards him might become greater than zero.
He never said it was OK to not be allowed to do that. Stop reading into things.
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It seems pretty clear that the whole thing was a joke and that GO doesn't think it's OK.
There's a couple of hints that it's a joke.
1) the two choices are surveillance, not a real choice
2) right after mouthing off about the Chinese government, the part you quoted appears.
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(who probably don't care what I do, as long as I don't mouth off about the Chinese government).
This is absolutely insane for me to read. Do you believe this is ok? That you shouldn't be able to "mouth off" about a foreign government? This is the most Orwellian, horrifying thing I think I have ever seen someone post on slashdot.
What year do you think this is? If a government wants to murder / incarcerate / abduct / harvest for organs its critics, yeah, by any rational human standards, that is insane. People don't ordinarily do that sort of thing, with the exception of some sociopathic statistical outliers.
Governments - like corporations - are a different order of life. They are multicellular, and they don't inherit the opinions or morals of the cells that make them up, any more than you are guided by your nostril hairs. You can r
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Re: freedom of choice (Score:1)
Google cares if I want to use Quick Office Pro on my Android phone. If they didn't, they would not have bought the company and then shut it down so I would have to use their Suite instead.
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Google seems pretty invested in running my phone's battery down - the biggest drain on it is Google Play, which i never use on my phone. i can't uninstall it; i can't even stop it.
Yeah, you're shaking your head and say "whyncha root your phone duder?" and, as i've said before, i shouldn't bloody have to.
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or surveillance by the Chinese government (who probably don't care what I do, as long as I don't mouth off about the Chinese government).
Actually, the Chinese government cares deeply about you if you have access to a business computer network. Don't forget, China is stealing IP as fast as they can. Would you really want to trust a company lead by someone that has deep ties in the CCP?
Re: freedom of choice (Score:2)
Google doesn't care either (Score:2)
No Google? (Score:1)
Clearly that's a feature
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Re: No Google? (Score:1)
The critters who scurried into the Google corporate structure when it was so successful would scurry on to any new entity that replaced them.
Interesting (Score:2)
No Google is a nice feature, but it has no hardware keyboard and I already preordered my F(x)tec Pro1.
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Personally I've never seen a phone preloaded with Whatsapp, or heard of one until now, and I also live in an area where its (unfortunately) ubiquitous.
"Sideloading" becomes as easy as using the Google Play store if you first sideload an unofficial Google play store substitute such as the Aurora store...
Re: Interesting (Score:1)
So we don't need to delete or disable those apps on a new phone. More good news.
Great! (Unless you're in China.) (Score:1)
At least there is a slight hope that it's Five Eyes state terror free.
No Google==GOOD THING (Score:1)
Not shipping with spyoogle is awesome, download apks. directly. Of course, Chinese overlords are no better, lineage is the way to go.
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Great! (Score:1)
Surveillance (Score:2)
I would be surprised if finding malware and backdoors in the apps in the Huawei Mobile Services store wasn't par for the course. If I could load the phone with crap from the google Play store it *might* be marginally better but I don't think that's an option.
Google's Gone Schizophrenic (Score:3)
I like how people in DC are talking about charging Google execs with treason for enabling the Chinese military while Other-Google bans their Play/apps from Huawei's phones because they may be subject to State control (like every single corporation in China).
Meanwhile people here are applauding a "Google-free" Android phone. Android which is made by Google.
Talk about Clown World...
Re: Google's Gone Schizophrenic (Score:1)
Android is open source and there are prominent versions of it available with no Google.
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It was never the case (Score:2)
Why is Slashdot shilling for Huawei? (Score:1)
Now some smartass will make comments about Google/Facebook/Amazon/U.S. Government/etc
So what? Does that make them better or acceptable somehow?
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YOU HAVE [4chan.org] TO GO BACK. [reddit.com]
Shoo, troll, shoo shoo!
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"Also go back to your Chinese handlers"
You're completely fucking retarded.
And, yes, you do have a smartphone, liar. Internet Archive of your slashdot posts shows your old fucking G+ and Facebook which you've now-removed from your slashdot account, and sure enough you've posted to those accounts via mobile (thanks for telling everyone this shit FB and Google.)
Would you like to continue this? I'll leak your address next.
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Internet Archive says YOU ARE FULL OF SHIT. It's your fucking slashdot post with your old G+ AND FB shit linked directly next to your fucking screenname. IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH YOU.
So glad that site exists. It makes ignorant and disingenuous fucktards like you so easy to out.
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Hahaha, look at that, you got busted LYING and all you can do is fucking GET MAD.
Stay mad, you little fuck. I'll give you much more reason to keep on being mad VERY SOON.
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"Are you too much of a little coward to do it?"
Look at you, trying to post anonymously. Who's the real coward here, ya disingenuous fuck? :D
Hey everyone, Rick Schumann is a cowardly fuck. Right alongside APK.
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You mean buy a phone that HAS Google?
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>So what?
At least for the foreseeable future, the Chinese government is going to have very little influence on my life, regardless of how much information it collects. That's the difference. I already have a Huawei phone. I would prefer to have a Huawei phone minus Google. I would like to have a phone that was entirely trustworthy, but there's no incentive for anyone to make one. All you can do is mitigate the risk.
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Don't trust the Chinazi app store (Score:2)
The most impressive specs are the built in surveillance tools in their closed source firmware. You can get high speed linking direct to your social credit score! So wonderful...
Assuming you are in one of the 5 eyes countries (Score:2)
No Problem (Score:1)
Just use Aptoide to download apps
What does he mean...? (Score:2)
"Huawei's Flagship Mate 30 Pro Has Impressive Specs But No Google".
But???
Comment removed (Score:4, Insightful)
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It's the same, 'but' is equal to 'and' in logic.
In what way is No Google not impressive? (Score:3)
Sorry, but from where I stand, No Google is an impressive spec. Very impressive. Now, let's get busy filling in the cracks where Google used to be, with something more open and less... well... fucked up. That is, fucked up by oversexed interns, who are the only ones who ever do any work at Google because being a tenured Googler is only about one thing: rest and vest.