Google Removes QAnon Apps From Play Store for Violating Terms (cnet.com) 207
Google last week removed three apps related to the QAnon conspiracy theory from its Play Store digital marketplace. From a report: The apps -- called QMAP, Q Alerts! and Q Alerts LITE -- were taken down for violating Google's policies against "harmful information," the company said. The removal was earlier reported by Media Matters for America, a progressive not-for-profit. The QAnon conspiracy theory has become popular among a group of supporters of President Donald Trump. One claim is that celebrities are involved in child sex trafficking and pedophilia. Another tenet is that Trump is working to take down the so-called "Deep State," a secret network that manipulates and controls government policy. The theory revolves around "Q," an anonymous user who began writing about the conspiracies on imageboard site 4chan.
4chan... (Score:5, Insightful)
As if anything that came off of 4chan could remotely be considered reliable.
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One claim is that celebrities are involved in child sex trafficking and pedophilia.
Wait, how is that in any way controversial? Is it that it's "celebrities", and not just people who make casting decisions. I mean, it's well known at this point that the Coreys were passed around like trading cards when they were children. Corey Haim never seemed to have gotten over the trauma, and couldn't seem to shake the drug habit.
Regardless, it's not cool that the Android store is removing apps at the behest of the Ministry of Truth. Of course, it is Google so I'm not surprised. YouTube is now au
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Another tenet is that Trump is working to take down the so-called "Deep State," a secret network that manipulates and controls government policy.
Wait, is that at all controversial? I mean, QAnon probably takes it to a crazy place, but there's never been an establish democracy where there wasn't real contention between elected officials and the permanent bureaucracy. The whole premise of the wonderful comedies Yes Minister and Yes Prime Minister was the "deep state". (If you haven't seen these, they're the British comedy I find funniest as an adult, do check them out.)
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"Impermanence is impotence and rotation is castration."
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Given that 'deep state' is just a rebranding of 'the jews', yeah, it is still controversial.
Wow, that was a very fast Godwin. You didn't even make an argument before you ran out of arguments.
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It's absolutely true in this context though. QAnon is a decidedly anti-Semitic conspiracy, and the whole "powerful people are raping and eating children" thing is just a rebranding of the hoary old blood libel.
"deep state" was an acceptable concept back then (Score:2)
"deep state" was an acceptable concept back when we were saying Donald Rumsfeld was calling the shots. It was an acceptable concept back when we were saying George Tenet was making up shit to force Clinton and later Bush's hand.
But I guess it's impossible for James Clapper or anyone else to have done anything for their own reasons, of course. There is only one government that acts monolithically, no factions within it, no unelected officials acting in the interests of any particular faction. No no no, that
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No, you fuck off you mouth breathing imbecile. Normal people are going to judge you for your insane ideology, get used to it.
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The entrenched bureaucracy includes the intelligence agencies. It's now on the record under oath that they ran intelligence ops against the incoming Trump. The mistake is thinking that's something new with Trump, not normal entrenched bureaucracy. That is absolutely normal entrenched bureaucracy. And since we spent decades thinking it was smart to have intelligence agencies skilled in overthrowing regimes we don't like; well, you reap what you sow.
At least in modern times the entrenched bureaucracy does
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As a candidate? Oh man, Kennedy was a Roman Catholic, probably took his orders straight from the Pope! People were indeed worried about such things, as silly as they sound today. You can bet you ass that Hoover investiaged Kennedy and had significant files needed to coerce Kennedy once he was in office.
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Stop trying to normalize QAnon. It won't work. The conflict between Trump and the deep state comes because Trump is a criminal con man, and the normal citizens who work in permanent government, who you slander as deep state, actually work to uphold the constitution.
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Trump's beef is that he made promises and then was baffled that he couldn't just sign a paper to make the promises come true. Almost all presidents before realize that they don't hold ultimate power. You may be the most powerful person in the world but that's just an honorary title without any actual substance domestically. This is probably why Trump was so impressed early on with dictators and strong arm leaders like Kim Jong Un, Putin, Duterte, and Xi Jinping, because they seem to do what they want with
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So the dangerous "deep state" is the same as bureaucracy?
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Except the bureaucracy is quite dangerous, is the point. We have a ridiculously oversized surveillance apparatus, together with far too many people skilled in overthrowing governments, all holdovers from the Cold War and American adventurism of the 20th century. We don't need those organizations any more, they are a danger, but they won't go away.
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So every 2 years, or 4, or whenever, we throw out all bureacrats and only let elected officials site behind the desks to actually implement laws (not just create them)? Sure, we'd like elected officials behind the desk at the DMV, it would give us a reason to shout at someone.
The reason for bureaucrats is that the implement the law as written. If the new administration doesn't like it, then the new administration needs to seek to change the laws. If the bureacrats implemented whatever random thought the p
Absolutely nuts,even FreeRepublic quarantines them (Score:5, Informative)
The Qanon people take crazy to a whole new level.
Even Free Republic which tolerates almost all right wing kookiness restricts them to a single thread each day.
But the right wing is veering off to the nutty fringes at an alarming rate.
https://www.cnet.com/news/more... [cnet.com]
"More than 40% of Republicans think Bill Gates will use COVID-19 vaccine to implant tracking chips, survey says
A survey from Yahoo News and YouGov finds that the conspiracy theory is popular among Fox News viewers, Republicans and Trump voters.
The representative survey of 1,640 US adults by YouGov for Yahoo News found that half of respondent Americans who say Fox News is their primary television news source believe the conspiracy theory. It's the largest group responding this way, followed by self-described Republicans and "Voted for Donald Trump in 2016" -- 44% of both those groups said they believed the conspiracy theory was true. Twenty-six percent of respondent Republicans said it was false, and 31% said they weren't sure."
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I'll agree that some with Qanon are...out there... "god emperor Trump" gets on my nerves.
Qanons are not Q. Q has some interesting questions, references, and observations. Many Qanons are way more reasonable than portrayed, and contribute to discussion and analysis. Some not so much...
I recommend everyone invest honest time into what Q actually posted. Consider some of Q's questions. Make up your own mind.
Why hasn't the MSM grilled Trump publicly about knowledge, involvement, approval, etc. of Q? Love? Pro
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Why hasn't the MSM grilled Trump publicly about knowledge, involvement, approval, etc. of Q?
Probably for the same reason they haven't questioned him about his ties to Bigfoot and orthe rumors about his romantic involvement with the Loch Ness Monster.
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Hey now, there could be some plausibility to those ties!
After all, it's obvious that Nessy is a Paleo-Con.
Strat
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Wouldn't the MSM want to get him tied to it? It is a significant part of his support. Should be low-hanging fruit for any reporter wanting to put Trump in a bind and/or discredit Q.
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The tracking chips claim isn't really related nor is it merely a fringe concern. There's a basis for that. Bill Gates started talking about digital certificates for people to show if they've been vaccinated or not. It seems today that people want to disregard everything they don't like as a conspiracy theory rather than bothering to investigate the underpinning. The term is worn out and as meaningless as the terms racist, nazi, etc.
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Trump is draining the swamp and has proven that government is rife with complacency and corruption.
At best, Trump is merely emptying and refilling positions so that their corruption aligns better with his. I mean, the swamp might be full - but you don't drain it just to make room for more swamp.
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I did see a facebook re-share a couple of days ago about "I will never accept a chip implented in me; please share this if you're not too scared." I thought it was just general kookiness until I realized that the chip thing was making the rounds again (it periodically comes and goes, especially when phrased as the mark-of-the-beast).
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"This is CNN, so I'm sure something was twisted between poll and reporting."
It is a CNET article reporting on a Yahoo/YouGov poll but if Q has told you that CNN has something to do with it who am I to argue.
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If they're wrong it's easier to just ignore the inconvenient bits.
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>I wonder how the question was phrased.
"Here are some stories you may have seen on the internet. Please tell us which of these stories you think are true or false:"
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"Bill Gates wants to use a mass vaccination campaign against COVID-19 to implant microchips in people that would be sued to track people with a digital ID."
That's the question, exactly as phrased.
And no, Bill Gates has never said anything about tracking chips or tattoos for any purpose, in any context; That part is also some nutjob fantasy.
https://www.factcheck.org/2020... [factcheck.org]
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tattoos for any purpose, in any context
Gates specifically funded research into tattoos to track vaccinations:
https://www.scientificamerican... [scientificamerican.com]
"The work was funded by the Bill & Melinda Gates Foundation and came about because of a direct request from Microsoft founder and philanthropist Bill Gates himself"
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It is a tattoo, but it is only visible in infrared light, and lasts for 5 years only.
It is not individualized, i.e. it is the same pattern for everyone, so says: "James got the first dose of MMR vaccine".
So it is not the evil mark of the beast thing it is touted to be by the QAnon and anti-vaxxer nutcases ...
Not that I support this type of invasive tracking.
There are other ways to do it in rural under developed areas, where paper is not practical.
For example, a passive NFC necklace that the child wears until they are past a certain age.
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It is not individualized, i.e. it is the same pattern for everyone
Well, the article says "The researchers hope to add more detailed information to the dots, such as the date of vaccination."
Throw in this tidbit "the team eventually wants to inject sensors that could also potentially be used to track aspects of health such as insulin levels in diabetics", some imagination and you have your microchips. That's the thing with conspiracy theories. They have some foundation in reality but too many gaps have been filled in by overactive imagination.
that is even less practicable (Score:2)
That's even less practicable as you have to make sure this is not a hazard to the child, and resistant to shenanigan the child could do during plays, can be far more easily faked (yes you have to think about anti vax idiot). An years long temporary ink tattoo, depending on how it is done, is inherently safe, resistant to child's play, and can be easily verified, not easily faked.
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For example, a passive NFC necklace that the child wears until they are past a certain age.
At that point, you might as well have a paper vaccination record at home. If that isn't practical, then jewelry that can be lost isn't practical either.
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I did not say it is OK. It is too invasive for my taste, and alternatives are better (which I mentioned in my reply).
The medical ethics committees should do a better job at weeding these privacy insensitive things before they get researched or funded ...
That said: it is invisible. It needs Infrared to be seen.
And it is temporary. As the child grows, it goes away ...
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Literally the second hit on Google: https://www.sciencealert.com/a... [sciencealert.com]
Now, did he speak about this in context of COVID19? No he did not.
But tracking tattoos are without question something he has thought about. Rather than dismissing the qanon's with your own falsehoods and pushing them to radicalize you could consider nuancing them back to the truth.
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YouGov uses online polling, where it asks people use a website to self-identify as various demographics, then answer questions. They are a pay-to-play model, where they use survey designs given by them by paying clients, and then return data - from online sources.
YouGov has already had problems with people misrepresenting their demographics, with push-polls, and with clients absurdly misrepresenting the results. Some may remember the "majority of people believe moon landings were fake" poll they did a few
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Good!! (Score:2, Interesting)
Good for google, I'm sure Foxnews will start their own app store any day now to host the QAnon apps + Glenn Beck apps + whatever trash Alex Jones is pedaling.
If I offended anyone.. Sorry you are that stupid and paranoid...
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Awwwwww
BUT MUH FREEDUMS? (Score:2, Troll)
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efore you start complaining about freedom of speech, Mr. Trump Supporter, recall that Google is a private company.
They're not though. They're a publicly held corporation, and such things only get whatever rights we the people decide they should, as they have no natural rights. Unlike a partnership or closely held corporation (which is just a different kind of partnership), the owners of a publicly held corporation have no common interest beyond profit (unless the corporate charter says otherwise, which it doesn't here), and so you can't argue that any behavior beyond profit-seeking is an extension of the rights of th
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A publicly held corporation is NOT the same thing as the government.
Not did I ever claim so. Nor does it seem relevant. Did you have a point to make? Google still has no rights, beyond what rights we the people grant it.
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Thanks for playing. But No.... We the people did NOT grant them the rights .. However 9 corrupt old farts wearing black robes did at the behest of the Republicans who packed the same court. Read Citizens United .. Corporations are people too. Which I think is a load of crap, but your right wing nut packed Supreme Court has decreed otherwise. So enjoy..
Re: BUT MUH FREEDUMS? (Score:2)
Facebook and Google are private. The only way I have any control of them is to buy shares.
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Again, what's the point you are trying to make? You repeat the obvious as if that were meaningful, but you say nothing.
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Why say they're a publicly held company if your belief system is that no company gets rights?
A company is not a moral entity, it is a thing, like a door or a chair. It has no natural rights at all, any more than a door or a chair. However, privately held companies -- owned by one person or a group that know each other -- are in a meaningful way an extension of the owners, and have some rights as, and only as, an extension of the owners' rights. Companies can be formed for many reasons, not only profit, and that is not in fact uncommon.
Publicly held corporations are different in kind. They are
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The government gets involved in private comapnies for all kinds of reasons - competition laws and monopolies, financial regulations, etc.
That they should also enforce free speech to companies like Google that provide the platforms used by everyone makes sense too. If a company is forced to obey the rules around media content, taking down paedophile content etc, then they can also be made to ensure everyone has the right be participate in these "walled gardens".
As it is though, morally they should be forced:
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That *is* a real problem. Monopoly positions should be strictly regulated by government oversight, but "monopoly" doesn't mean "no competition", merely "more than about 60% of the market", and the government oversight needs strict regulations to avoid regulatory capture. Something like "no regulator may ever, even after retiring, accept any emolument whatsoever from any agent or agency they have had regulatory power over"...with teeth in the enforcement. Possibly confiscation of their entire wealth and a
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Illuminati? Please. As a Freemason, I can tell you with certainty, after yesterday's game, that they suuuuuck at softball. Eat it Illosernati!
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Before you start complaining about freedom of speech, Mr. Trump Supporter, recall that Google is a private company.
I can just predict where you stand on net neutrality too, even though those are private companies too.
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Child sex trafficking (Score:2, Insightful)
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True, the thing is that is about getting people compromised, getting the photos of them in bed with the minor. Blackmail of rich and powerful. That is what Epstein did to prince Andrew, and much of his operation was about. 101 stuff to people in spy world, but something for average person to think about: Epstein was sexual predator who trained girls to sleep with powerful and celebs so he could threaten reveal. Qanon constantly threatens reveal on rich and powerful, claiming to be high level spy. Its a murk
Re:Child sex trafficking (Score:5, Interesting)
And that's how conspiracy theories work: start with a kernel of something reasonable, then take it to crazy.
So: child sex trafficking happens. Sometimes it is done by powerful people. Reasonable.
Hillary Clinton and the DNC run a pedophile ring out of the basement of a particular pizza shop in DC (this shop has no basement). We know this because they sent emails around talking about what kind of pizza to order, and Clever People decoded these emails somehow. No other evidence, no missing kids. Does that sound reasonable to you? Welcome to QAnon.
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That's a good question. I suggest we should get William Barr under oath in front of a House committee with staff support from career prosecutors, require him to cite chapter and verse on the penalty for lying to Congress, and then ask him those questions.
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I have no idea what/who QAnon is
Me either, but the summary also mentioned Media Matters, which is a pure propaganda and misinformation outlet.
..and if Media Matters was against QAnon, ... then there must be something right about QAnon.
"killed himself" (Score:2)
Death in prison as a resuly of incompetent and uncaring authorities is extremely common in the US. See this article [theatlantic.com] for several examples.
Hold on, let's separate these issues (Score:2, Troll)
And Trump himself says he is fighting against the Deep State. That would be the
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Everybody keeps missing the real scandal. Yes, Flynn was treated unfairly....but that's the way the FBI (and many other "police" agencies) treat every suspect. False imprisonment and conviction is routine.
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Irrelevant. The FBI (like other police) held him captive and lied to him until he confessed. What Trump did or didn't do is irrelevant. So, actually, is what Flynn actually did. It's the *process* that's the real scandal.
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That would be the Deep State that promoted the Russia hoax, claiming Trump was acting as an agent of Russia.
Nobody is claiming that. It's just not clear what Trump's relationship with Russia is. Can you tell us what Trump and Putin talked about at their meeting in Helsinki? Or can you name any American citizen other than Trump himself who knows it? You can't, because they met alone, so now only Trump, Putin and the Russian FSB know what transpired there. That's a legitimate cause for concern, and if the "deep state" -- which is really just bullshit AltRight code for "rule of law" -- is concerned about this, then
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Nobody is claiming that.
You're right. Nobody _is_ claiming that, because it's widely acknowledged to be a stupid conspiracy theory. However for the last few years it was pushed by fake news vendors from the likes of the WaPo and NYT down to bottom feeders like CNN and MSNBC. Some people won a Pulitzer over this ridiculous conspiracy theory. More significantly, the Democrat/left leaning deep state brass running the DOJ, FBI, and CIA were pushing it. However today many of those government actors have been fired, and anybody still em
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But obviously you think it's totally cool that President Trump has unk
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Sorry, I should have included "credibly accused of rape by multiple women in sworn statements"
I'm not sure you're all that clear on "consent" here. If someone with a position of power grabs the genitals of someone working for them, that's statutory rape. If someone is in a position where the could lose their job if they don't let it happen, that doesn't count as consent.
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Yes, you are indeed afflicted with a case of TDS, which may be associated with a symptom I am detecting, of extreme lameness.
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Barr, Durham, Jensen and others at the DOJ are peeling back the onion on misdeeds that emerged from the corrupt Obama administration. Mike Flynn will ultimately be fully exonerated.
I think it's time for your meds dude.
My meds are delicious and give me good feelings. ;) The US AG says the Trump/Russia investigation was a horrible miscarriage of justice, and has US Attorneys running a criminal investigation of the deep state actors. And yes, the DOJ formally moved to drop Flynn's case. Flynn's unfortunately dopey and leftist judge is running scared and has hired his own lawyer (!) because an appeals court is demanding to know why he as a supposedly impartial judge is refusing to consider an unopposed motion in his courtroo
Color me orange but... (Score:4, Insightful)
Did hookers pee on Obama's bed? (Score:2)
The weirdest thing about the pee tape is that the dossier alleges that hookers peed on a bed once used by Obama.
Even if that bizarre conspiracy was true, why would anyone care about a video of Obama's bed getting peed on?
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The dossier isn't a conspiracy theory, it's raw intelligence that even the creator said doesn't contain 100% accurate info. That being said, nothing in it has been shown to be false yet though I still doubt the pee tape part. If you think that was the "center" of the Russia probe where the investigation found multiple links between the president and Russia interfering with the US election then you might be a victim of Q
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Login, coward.
Removing crazy for being crazy... (Score:2)
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"Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof; or abridging the freedom of speech, or of the press; or the right of the people peaceably to assemble, and to petition the Government for a redress of grievances"
From https://constitutioncenter.org... [constitutioncenter.org]
I'm not sure that Google is, yet, the Congress of the USA. Compromising free speech? Nope, they are not Congress, you if you use Google, you accept Google's rules, and their rules differ from those lai
"harmful information" (Score:2)
this is a garbage concept with zero burden of proof
Qanon is a Query program (Score:2)
"Q"anon stands for Query as in query the social media for conspiracy theories and from those create a story that appears to parallel real events. Qanon is a toy version as it is to play with the minds of those following conspiracy in an effort to alter them on some way or another.
The Adult version also is used to query social media and more, as in spying on Americans in all the ways the spy industry does and using controlled Main Stream Propaganda Media (AKA MSM). A feedback loop is created and used to mani
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missed a link
so it and supporting links
You've heard of deep fakes, well it applies to story telling too.
see section "D" AI Safety
https://3seas.org/Voice_of_Glo... [3seas.org]
Industry wide Cheat
https://abstractionphysics.net... [abstractionphysics.net]
Should be obvious. And the ongoing illusions
https://abstractionphysics.net... [abstractionphysics.net]
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Sorry guys, a cut an past containing a character that Slashdot read wrong and mucked up my first post - below is how it shoudl have read (without the "less than sign")
"Q"anon stands for Query as in query the social media for conspiracy theories and from those create a story that appears to parallel real events. Qanon is a toy version as it is to play with the minds of those following conspiracy in an effort to alter them on some way or another.
The Adult version also is used to query social media and more, a
Oy (Score:3)
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I use a spam filter so that important messages don't get lost in a sea of nonsense.
If my censorship means that I miss an important message from a Nigerian prince who needs my help, that's a price I'm willing to pay.
Thanks a lot, Google [facepalm] (Score:2, Interesting)
I despise conspiracy theories, and the idiotic QAnon is right up there with the worst...
But the people who buy into QAnon, and most who support Trump but do not believe the QAnon crap, have all watched as the DOJ, CIA, FBI, IRS and State Department used Russian propaganda compiled by a British spy on the payroll of the Clinton campaign and the DNC to try to destroy Trump and his supporters, with the entire 4-year long scam aided by the mainstream press, and large number of Obama admin people who said one th
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By muzzling numerous right-wing voices, and now going for QAnon, Google is just pouring kerosene onto the flames.
Well, "flames" implies that it's an active movement that is spreading uncontrollably. This is more of a small group of very noisy people and their alts being whipped in to a frenzy by fun-seeking trolls from 4chan.
Most conservatives are perfectly ordinary people, not the nuts we're seeing center stage today. The "right-wing" voices that you think are being silenced were always there, just part of an extremely tiny fringe that the overwhelming majority of folks on the right were happy to ignore if they eve
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"I don't believe these idiotic conspiracy theories"
proceeds to list off more idiotic conspiracy theories
Sounds like... (Score:4, Interesting)
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That is a lie, and you know it. Google can't refuse to work for certain demographics. If they do, then they be Nazis. Remember the faggots that kissed and vomited in bakery in Oregon and demanded slave labor make their fake wedding cake? The hateful xian owners of the shop couldn't refuse to not be slaves since thieves were gay. I love to see xians turned into slaves.
And forcing slavery. If you have a business license you must serve certain groups or go to prison, even if they don't pay. You have to
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They never have been so trustworthy. Look at the arguments about that among the Federalists.
The problem is the regulators aren't trustworthy either.
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Trump is a narcissistic idiot. Biden's no great choice, but I'd vote for a mad dog before I'd vote for Trump. I just hope he picks a decent vice-president, because Biden doesn't sound like he's going to last out a term of office. Still, even an empty oval office would be an improvement over Trump. It's too bad the ballot doesn't have a box saying "None of the above".
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you have to ignore Epstein, Weinstein, Kevin Spacey, etc. etc. etc. There is no "theory" behind the strong connection of Hollywood celebrities to pedophilia.
Also Bill Cosby. And the same with Catholic priests worldwide. And many other religious officials.
Also teachers. And sports coaches.
Seems correlation is not causation after all. If you dig deeper you will find a common denominator though, Abuse of positions of trust or power transcends politics. That's no "theory" for real.
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That's an interesting defense you've created there. It lets you claim that anyone who criticizes your conspiracy theory is just using some ancient gas-lighting technique to silence you.
I have to admit, it's not a bad way to protect yourself from reality.
Because you're super-smart and have seen through our devious plans, I'll let you in on the best-kept secret in the deep state: George Soros personally filled-up the basement of Commit Ping Pong Pizzaria with Killary's emails while John Podesta used a priva
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That's not even close to the weirdest thing they believe. You should pay more attention.
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Is there anything that you won't believe? Aside from the truth, that is.
Ask any lawyer who defends former child sex slaves and hasn't disappeared.
Here's my challenge to you: Find a single lawyer who has defended former child sex slaves that has disappeared.
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Find a single lawyer who has defended former child sex slaves that has disappeared.
That's hard to do - they've disappeared! If it were that easy, someone would have found them by now.