Maserati Plans To Go Fully Electric By 2025 (engadget.com) 66
Maserati announced on Thursday that it will offer electric versions of its entire vehicle lineup by 2025 and is starting its efforts off with the GranTurismo EV, a 1,200 HP roadster slated for release next year. Engadget reports: The GranTurismo "Folgore" will be the first entry into Maserati's new line of electric vehicles. Its thousand-plus horses will translate into a limitered top speed of 190 MPH and a sub-3-second 0-60. It will be joined by an electrified version of the new Grecale SUV and Grancabrio GT in 2023 followed by EV variants of the MC20, the Quattroporte and the Levante SUV by 2025. The company also announced its intention to halt production of internal combustion vehicles and go fully electric by 2030. The company, a subsidiary of the Stellantis Group, did not elaborate on the expected MSRPs for the upcoming vehicles, but given Maserati's current offerings, interested buyers will likely be looking to pay anywhere from the high five-figures to the mid-sixes.
Is Masertai even relevent? (Score:2)
Yes, I get it. There's some "Maserati" tweaks here and there. OK.
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Very little is actually made in Detroit these days.
https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/... [wikipedia.org]
Bad title (Score:4, Informative)
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They'll sell electric versions of all of their vehicles, but electric versions won't be the only versions.
FTA: "The company also announced its intention to halt production of internal combustion vehicles and go fully electric by 2030."
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Consumers: I don't want electric. I'll buy something else.
This will go away quickly as consumers get a chance to drive a BEV. Once you've driven a good BEV, ICEVs just seem sluggish and uselessly loud.
And for high-performance cars like Maserati sells, ICEVs are so massively out-competed by BEVs that it wouldn't surprise me if Maserati's timeline is overly conservative.
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You are missing one big factor in these kinds of cars. Posing factor. Driving an electric car down some boulevard does not draw nearly the same attention as THAT LOUD CAR WITH OPEN EXHAUST REVVING TO 8000 WHILE GOING SLOWER THAN A SNAIL WRMWRMWRMWRMM.
You're confusing Maseratis with ricers.
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I know attention span is not a virtue these days, but you made it through sentence one, can you do us a favour and read sentence five of the summary as well.
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I know attention span is not a virtue these days, but you made it through sentence one, can you do us a favour and read sentence five of the summary as well.
BeauHD probably should have done the same when writing the headline.
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Yes but BeauHD is an editor. We don't expect much of him. We hold random Slashdot posters to a higher standard because ... well we really can't go any lower :-)
What about range? (Score:2)
The entire article doesn't mention range at all. With that kind of power under the hood, you may be lucky if you do 50 miles on one charge.
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Re:What about range? (Score:4, Funny)
Umm...I think we all know the range is 185.
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Umm...I think we all know the range is 185.
No reason to assume it will do that for a whole hour.
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Umm...I think we all know the range is 185.
At which point they take your license, then you can't drive.
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It's only against the law...if they catch you.
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With that kind of power under the hood
What makes you think you need to use all the power available? A Bugatti Chiron burns through its fuel tank in 9min with all the power under the hood. That's only a 40mile range given its top speed. But drive it normally it goes about 416miles on the highway, which is funny because the math works out to 666km if you round to the nearest L/100km :)
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He's probably thinking the old way where having an ICEV with a lot of power meant you burned a lot of fuel all the time, and doesn't understand that an electric motor is efficient at many power levels unlike his precious dino chugger
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You're clearly a pretentious, entitled know it all and in this case completely wrong.
This is going to be funny. Not hilarious, but amusing.
Top Gear did a review of the roadster years ago
I saw it at the time, yes.
and found that in track conditions, what's discussed above
That is literally what is discussed above, but it is mentioned only in terms of its irrelevance:
The entire article doesn't mention range at all. With that kind of power under the hood, you may be lucky if you do 50 miles on one charge.
What makes you think you need to use all the power available?
(me) He's probably thinking the old way(etc.)
Three parts, first "what about the range" which said nothing about track conditions, then "you don't have to use all the power", then me agreeing with that. The thread didn't say what you think it said. You fail at reading comprehension.
the fact is Top Gear was correct and that turning an electric motor faster is going to require more electricity.
That "fact" is not what is at issue, though it's not a "fact" at all. Electric motor speed increase
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I think you need to re-read your comment and realize that what you said was ridiculous, that you never would have said it in a real conversation where you could follow the flow, and that you telling me I need to look at what I said when you're talking pure bullshit is... pure bullshit.
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He's probably thinking the old way where having an ICEV with a lot of power meant you burned a lot of fuel all the time, and doesn't understand that an electric motor is efficient at many power levels unlike his precious dino chugger
That's turning the pretentiousness dial up to 11.
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Top Gear did a review of the roadster years ago and found that in track conditions
I applaud you for going out of your way to put in bold the very differences we are talking about while at the same time completely missing the point of what I or drinkypoo said.
Bravo man. I mean I sometimes too post something which misses the point, but I don't then go and put that part in bold. That takes some special skills!
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That's true of the fossil fuel versions too. If you take it to a track your tank won't last many laps.
Range wise these cars should be decent, since they are already shaped to be low drag and as low weight as possible. Doubtless they will come with a fairly large battery.
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what sound does it make? (Score:2)
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who cares about "supercars" anymore ? (Score:1)
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Honest question.
What is "FSD"?
That's a TLA I've not seen before...
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Full Self Driving. The thing that Tesla keeps promising and then not delivering because instead of using the best hardware for the job they are trying to do it in software.
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Thank you very much for the clarification, and TGIF drinkypoo!
I personally like to buy fun, fast cars...I hope that the FSD cars hold off till I'm no longer driving on the roads.
I"m guessing once they become prevalent, likely as not it will soon follow that non-FSD vehicles will be prohibited from the public roads.
How about something affordable (Score:1)
We have enough BEVs for the well-off. What I'd like to see would be something like the Wuling Hongguang Mini [wikipedia.org], available in the USA. It's got a top speed of 62 MPG (which doesn't seem like much, but if you commute during a rush hour where the traffic hardly moves anyway, I fail to see the problem), a range of 110 miles, and the fully loaded model is a mere $5.6k.
That's the kind of car that would make a dent in getting old gas guzzling clunkers off the streets, because the lower half of working class Americ
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It's a great idea, the problem is that unless gas prices stay very high for a very long time, American's won't buy it. Americans know what they want from their vehicles, and they want their vehicles very large and very fast, and they are willing to take out a big fat loan to pay for those qualities rather than pay a reasonable amount for a smaller/slower vehicle that still gets the job done.
Yes, it's irrational, but so is manufacturing a product that won't sell.
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Yes, it's irrational, but so is manufacturing a product that won't sell.
Mostly that comes down to the way cars are sold in the USA. At the typical major car dealership, cheaper cars aren't any easier to finance if your credit is less than stellar. The so-called "B and C lenders" charge very high interest rates, negating any potential savings of choosing a cheap car. So naturally, people with decent credit are going to go with the biggest/fanciest thing that fits within their monthly payment budget. Since 72 month auto loans are a thing, that can end up being a pretty expens
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72 months?
Here in Europe, I’ve been offered a 10-year “lease” (equivalent to a loan, but they call it a lease).
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It's a great idea, the problem is that unless gas prices stay very high for a very long time, American's won't buy it. Americans know what they want from their vehicles, and they want their vehicles very large and very fast, and they are willing to take out a big fat loan to pay for those qualities rather than pay a reasonable amount for a smaller/slower vehicle that still gets the job done.
How is that relevant? Pretty much every single electric vehicle being sold in the US has a months or years long waiting list right now. The electric Ford F150 has 130,000+ reservations (years out if you sign up today). Teslas deliveries are months out for most models, a year for some last I checked. Rivian deliveries are years out. This is not just companies like Tesla who are building factories from scratch. Even manufacturers like Ford who have a century of experience cannot ramp up electric car productio
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Meanwhile Ford sold 726,000 F150s in an off sales year last year. With that in mind, 130,000 over years are minuscule.
Most years I think they sell closer to a million.
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Meanwhile Ford sold 726,000 F150s in an off sales year last year. With that in mind, 130,000 over years are minuscule.
Really? You think 20% is minuscule for the first year of a production people--people willing to pay a reservation fee to get in line for a sight unseen vehicle? I think that's pretty astonishing and a great sign for electric vehicle adoption!
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Actually, that only started around the 90s, thanks to some well done marketing campaigns trying to convince people to buy SUVs and not smaller more efficient vehicles. It's was basically Detroit's way of trying to compete with the influx of small foreign imports that got great gas mileage and were basically taking over the domestic market.
So since Detroit couldn't compete, they advertised bigger and bigger to sell vehicles they could make.
It's basically the w
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Do you honestly think that advertising drove Americans to buy big gas guzzlers when smaller, more efficient imports were actually available? Especially when those same small, efficient import carmakers began emulating Detroit and selling larger vehicles and SUVs?
I think larger vehicles, and especially SUVs, have an intrinsic appeal to them due to a bunch of variables, like their literal utility to carry people or stuff, driving height/position, perception of safety, interior comfort, and so on. Add the fa
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Do you honestly think that advertising drove Americans to buy big gas guzzlers when smaller, more efficient imports were actually available? Especially when those same small, efficient import carmakers began emulating Detroit and selling larger vehicles and SUVs?
Advertising convinced people to buy a product? That's unheard of!
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A lot of Americans want something smaller, cheaper, and simpler. They can't have it because of US crash safety regs. You can build a small safe car but it can't be cheap because that takes more engineering and more expensive construction.
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Re: How about something affordable (Score:2)
Golf is a very large car
well, mid-size yes... very large no...
Vw Polo is small, VW Up! is very small.
Golf is a very nice way to compare other cars. eg: smaller than golf is a small car.
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This is absolutely ridiculous. They aren't as prevalent in the US and Canada because they don't need small cars like they do in countries with incredibly narrow streets. When you go to Europe, a Golf is a very large car. Here it's considered a compact. Meanwhile, safety regulations don't keep people from buying a Ford Focus, a Fiat 500, a Prius, a Fortwo, etc. in the US. They buy them if they want them and otherwise don't. It's called consumer choice.
Not like you can even buy a new Focus in the USA anymore since they axed all their sedans and coupes but the Mustang.
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When the Focus was introduced you could still buy a no-frills car, and people bought many of them. They were possibly, and I say this knowing I will piss people off but giving zero fucks, the best car Ford ever made. They are astoundingly durable with little maintenance, fuel efficient and relatively easy to repair, tolerably sporty even in base models and enormously capable in the later and actually sporty ones. The Focus actually delivered what the Taurus promised. But as the years went by it got more con
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Meanwhile, safety regulations don't keep people from buying a Ford Focus
The Gen 1 Focus sold like hotcakes. It swelled in size, weight, and price over the years.
a Fiat 500
why don't people buy this fiat! lol
a Prius,
People do buy the Priuses, including the relatively small one. However, a Prius is not an EV. Even the small one is not all that small, either. And finally, they're not particularly cheap either.
a Fortwo, etc.
I just got done talking about how such a vehicle is expensive and that's the problem, and THE poster child for that is the Smart, followed up of course by the i3. I literally said that you coul
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Because it in all likely hood at that price point it does not meet western safety standards is the reason. Also that price is for the 9.3 kWh battery with 75 miles of range, not the 110 mile range option.
I note that the version to be offered for sale in Europe to be called the FreZe Froggy has an RRP of 10,000EUR. A good portion of that is going to be fitting all the optional extras that are safety requirements in western markets.
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Man, I'd love one of those, especially at that price as it could be purchased as a supplementary vehicle without "committing" to an electric vehicle.
I bought my last car new and it only has 30k miles on it after about 3 years, but I'd probably get close to 20 years out of it if I added one of this little cars because it would take over about 75% of my driving.
Can we get a copy editor? (Score:2)
Headline: Maserati Plans To Go Fully Electric By 2025
Story: The company also announced its intention to halt production of internal combustion vehicles and go fully electric by 2030
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This is not what "going fully electric" means...
from the high five-figures to the mid-sixes. (Score:2)
So between 90.000 and 500.000?
A bargain for a French car.