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Apple Launches Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro on iPad with New Subscription Pricing (theverge.com) 49

Posted by msmash from the elevating-the-iPad dept.
Apple is bringing Final Cut Pro and Logic Pro to the iPad. Both apps will be available for $4.99 per month or $49 per year on iPad starting on May 23rd. For comparison, buying Logic Pro on a Mac costs $199.99, and buying Final Cut Pro normally costs $299.99. From a report: The video and music editing apps will come with enhancements specifically for iPads. Final Cut Pro, for example, will come with a new jog wheel that's supposed to make the editing process "easier than ever," allowing you to navigate the magnetic timeline, move clips, and perform edits using just your finger and multi-touch gestures. There's also a new feature called Live Drawing that lets you use your Apple Pencil to draw and write directly on top of video content. If you have an iPad Pro with an M2 chip, you can use the Apple Pencil's hover feature to skim and preview footage without even touching the screen.
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  • I've been waiting for these for years and they're subscription only! I'd happily pay the same as the full Mac price just to have the mobility.

    • Re: (Score:2, Insightful)

      by Harvey Manfrenjenson ( 1610637 )

      OK, but *why* do you want Logic Pro on an Ipad? It sounds like it would be a fiddly nightmare to use. If you need mobility, isn't a laptop just as mobile as an Ipad? And if you just want to use an Ipad for basic mobile recordings, what's wrong with Garageband or the like?

      I do agree with your point about subscriptions. That's a dealbreaker for me, no matter how great the app is.

      • Re: (Score:3)

        by slazzy ( 864185 )
        People want to make music on the toilet, not that kinda music I mean Logic Pro on their iPad.
        • People want to make music on the toilet, not that kinda music I mean Logic Pro on their iPad.

          Randy records himself while on the toilet then uses that as a reference for his music [youtube.com]. He doesn't use an iPad.

      • iPads have a lot of limitations, and the OS is too restricted to use as a mainstream OS. However, having valid options is always nice to have.

        What would be ideal is the ability to use the iPad as a better control surface, so when combined with FCP or Logic on the Mac, it provides a lot more control options, next to a dedicated mixing console.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by r0nc0 ( 566295 )
        Because when I'm playing keyboard I'm not sitting at the mixing desk so I use the iPad to control portions of the mix or dial in some effects or whatever without having to turn around and mess about with a keyboard and monitor.

        • Actually, if you run Logic Pro (the standard OS X version) on a desktop/laptop, you can use an iPad as an additional controller over Bluetooth, to dial in the mix or whatever. My recollection is that it works pretty well (it's been a while since I did it). You don't need an iOS version of Logic Pro to do that.

    • I'm with ya....

      I do NOT *rent* my software.

      That's why I kicked Adobe to the curb many a year ago....

      There are alternatives out there that are as good if not better than what Adobe offers.

      I like FCPX on the desktop...I might have played with it on iPad Pro, etc....but not with subscription pricing.

      No thank you.

    • Clearly you don't do much work with it. $50 for a year? Any professional will make that money back in a single day of use. It's nothing in terms of a yearly fee. Poor folks just want to pay once for life and get upgrades forever. You don't get ongoing development like that.

      Do you get paid once in your work, or do you get paid on an ongoing basis?

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by flippy ( 62353 )

        Poor folks just want to pay once for life and get upgrades forever.

        I don't accept the premise of your statement. Maybe I'd like to choose between staying on an older version of a piece of software, realizing that I will NOT get upgrades/updates forever, but at no additional cost, and paying for upgrades, depending on my needs.

        • Then keep using desktop software that doesn't offer updates, bug fixes, security fixes, and more.

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by flippy ( 62353 )
            And you keep insulting and sh**ting on those less fortunate than you. Just an aside - it's not a good look.

          • If you're doing professional work, you don't need security updates. You don't even need to connect to the Internet with that machine. I realize there's lots of types of "pros" out there, but if it's living in a dedicated editing suite it's not getting used for email/facebook. It's just there to run the software.

            I still have a system set up with Final Cut 7 Studio. If I need to edit 4K, I'll use the free Resolve. I just haven't had the time to try out FCP X. Granted, I'm not a video pro. But when I do

            • If they're working in the way you describe, they have no use for a tablet version of the app. You've just made that clear. This software isn't for the pro doing final editing. It's for the pro on-site who is going some quick and dirty stuff to show a proof to someone and that's about it.

              • I think there's easily room for both. I don't know what you would do "on-site" during filming - ingesting the video into your workflow is a process and it wouldn't be available instantly. Final Cut Pro is used a lot in film for rough cuts already. A laptop on a plane is just painful for this, though - touch-optimized would be better. If you're going through the dailies and trying to piece together a rough cut of a film, this would probably outdo a laptop. You'd be doing this with a lower-res proxy vide

                • I can tell you, friend works in Hollywood and has done much of the computer graphics for movies like Scooby Doo II and Beowulf. When he was on-set filming Team America: World Police, he was doing rough cuts constantly from his laptop right then and there, so they could look over them quick.

                  A laptop on a plane? Who in the world is editing on a plane? That's about the worst environment to attempt to do any type of studio work. There's a reason that people invest tens of thousands in the environment they build

                  • Original release dates
                    * Scooby-Doo 2 = 2004
                    * Team America: World Police = 2004
                    * Beowulf = 2007

                    I don't think your friend is a good source of information about modern production methods. Or were you just name dropping and expected us to go "wow!" rather than understand how much things have changed in Hollywood production in the last twenty years?

                    • Those were just a couple that come to mind. I'm sure I could look up plenty of more recent movies that he's been involved in. But great job completely missing the point.

                    • No, I got the point: youâ(TM)re not in the industry; youâ(TM)re an armchair pundit who thinks they know what theyâ(TM)re talking about.

      • Re: (Score:2)

        by Malc ( 1751 )

        Black Magic are doing just fine with their pricing model for Davinci Resolve. Like Apple, they're a hardware company. Apple doesn't need to copy Adobe.

      • The ironic thing is that the "poor folks" are the ones going for subscriptions. I'd rather pay the higher amount up front and "own" the bits, so if I lose my job or something happens financially, I always have access to the software, as opposed to a subscription where once that is gone, I'm dead in the water.

        I'd pay the same price for FCP and Logic as on the Mac for it on the iPad, just because I know that from there on out, it will always be accessible. Maybe a new version might come out, but the old one

        • What job are you working where you are paying out of pocket for the software you use?

          • Re: (Score:2)

            by flippy ( 62353 )

            What job are you working where you are paying out of pocket for the software you use?

            I could equally ask you, what job are YOU working where the company pays for the software and you get to keep access to it if you're fired or laid off?

            • So you're not going to bother answering the question. I can see how after making such a stupid statement you want to redirect attention and away from your ignorance.

              • Re: (Score:2)

                by flippy ( 62353 )

                So you're not going to bother answering the question. I can see how after making such a stupid statement you want to redirect attention and away from your ignorance.

                1. Not the same person as the poster you replied to.

                2. I will answer your original question - I have chosen multiple times in my career to purchase my own software, so that when the exact case the other poster mentioned (I leave the company one way or another), the software is licensed to me, not to the company, and I have no problem taking it with me.

                3. Another possible answer - he's a consultant. If he loses that gig, but wants to keep consulting on other gigs, he better be sure he still has access to the

      • Clearly you don't do much work with it. $50 for a year? Any professional will make that money back in a single day of use. It's nothing in terms of a yearly fee. Poor folks just want to pay once for life and get upgrades forever. You don't get ongoing development like that.

        Do you get paid once in your work, or do you get paid on an ongoing basis?

        That's a pretty out-there accusation train. I bought every version of Logic Pro for my Macs since seven. Not sure where you're getting this concept of "give me and I'll never pay again." When software works for me, I'm happy to pay for upgrades. I am not at all interested in paying forever fees just to use a software package. I never know when my interest in something will wane, and I'd rather spend the money when I'm ready for the next version than have it be forced every month, or every year. I tolerate i

    • Same here. The main reason why I purchased Logic Pro and FCP is the fact that it is a one time purchase, and not a forever leak in my wallet month to month.

      I don't want subscriptions, unless it is a product like cloud storage, where it only makes sense, as it is an ongoing expense. However, software, I just rather pay the fee, and call it done.

      This way, if I lose my job, I am not out all my software.

  • Why? (Score:1, Insightful)

    by Varenthos ( 4164987 )
    Who would ever want to edit on an iPad? I'd tear my eyes out. Some things simply require a large screen and a keyboard and mouse.

    • I used to say that about a lot of things. And I say that sitting in front of my two huge monitors, typing on my old clicky-clacky keyboard, and navigating with my MX518 mouse. But folks entering the workforce have lived big parts of their lives in devices with limited viewing spaces, and are doing fine. My first "serious" computer-based recordings were done on a 14" crt with Cool Edit back in the mid-90's. Somehow I managed to make some pretty good music.

      I agree that the more "professional" you get the more

    • There are a lot of stages to editing. Peter Jackson is well known for editing rough cuts while on a flight right after filming. I admit, I believe that was Final Cut Pro on a laptop.

      The actual full workflow for the composited final edit requires a lot more equipment. A rough cut, you're just selecting the shots and choosing when to switch camera angles. You'd be working with digital intermediates at a lower resolution so it would actually fit on the tablet. That edited draft might be round-tripped thro

  • I do remember using a jog/shuttle wheel on umatic tapes and even my SVHS editing decks in the 1980s.
    Good on Apple for "discovering" and putting out this "new technology."

    • Hey, if they got it right, it's still a good feature while being nothing "new". If they were actually trying to claim it as a new concept they wouldn't have called it a jog wheel. But people understand the term and function, so that's fine. A multi-gesture jog wheel actually sounds like it might be a great add for a tablet.

  • Love the idea but how quickly would the average iPad fill up if it is used for video? How would you quickly transfer video shot on an iphone to your iPad without adapters etc?

    • Digital Intermediates [wikipedia.org]

      The term used to mean scans from film, but it can also mean a proxy file that is lower resolution where you can apply the edits to the full resolution version afterward.

      On a lot of newer cinema cameras, they shoot directly to SSD. Depending on the workflow, you would either transcode while importing to the iPad (over lightning cable) or convert all of it on a Mac before transferring it. When you move the project back to the Mac, you can swap your low-res versions for the originals. T

  • Not very motivating but could work for some (Score:3)

    by zuki ( 845560 ) on Tuesday May 09, 2023 @10:57AM (#63508843) Journal
    The devil is in the details with these apps. Could be marvelous, or downright annoying depending on your workflow. But regardless and on principle I would decline because I'm not sure I will ever agree to rent the software I use for work. It needs to be available years later so that a project I've worked on can be recalled without any fuss.

    I have an iPad which I think of as a pure consumption device, not really a proper creator tool. There are however some cool virtual synths and other pieces of software that occasionally make it very usable for fun while on-the-move. The lack of ports and connectors makes it very klutzy, it's manageable but not really very convenient. I'd rather use an ultra-thin Windows laptop for something like this, the choices of software as well as the plugins are incredibly larger.

    Apple has perfected the art of keeping people in its walled garden into a science, and I'm not sure I care to get locked into that ecosystem as there are no compelling reasons to do so when compared to the wealth of other robust options available elsewhere.

    • If I were using a Windows app, I'd want a full mouse and keyboard. Kind of hard to do if you weren't in a space for a proper setup. Otherwise, I'd want a UI that's fully optimized for touch. I have an iPad that I literally only use for touch-based games with the family (with Airplay).There just isn't a lot I want to do with a touch interface generally. But if I had to edit video while traveling, I think I would pick this. I used to own the Adobe Suite before they went subscription only, so I feel your

    • It needs to be available years later so that a project I've worked on can be recalled without any fuss.

      Remember when Final Cut Pro was updated so it couldn't read old project files anymore, and you couldn't install the old version on a newer version of MacOS?

      Hell, I remember when I had to pirate a copy of Windows Live Mail 2009, because Microsoft deleted it from its web site, and Windows Live Mail 2012 didn't know how to import mail from Outlook Express. I literally had to pirate a free application just to do an update to a completely separate free application.

      I don't trust new software in general, regardle

  • Imagine how cool this would have been at or soon after the iPad launch, even as an accessory to a more powerful Desktop.

    This seems like a "response" to Blackmagic taking over the market. Where the OG FCP people went too...

  • The last time I looked into this, which was several years ago, audio and video projects do not have viable open standards for the formats of their project files. This means that when you choose a platform, you're committing all projects that you create using that platform to a proprietary format. This is a serious investment of your time, so it's important to choose a platform that you will be able to continually use. If you choose a platform that can only be rented, such as this, then that means that th
  • I will NEVER allow my data to be held hostage each month through rented software.
    This is MY data that I have generated.
    I have dumped a lot of software both at home and at work because of this.

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