Popular Third-Party YouTube App for Vision Pro Pulled From App Store (macrumors.com) 23
Juno, an app designed for watching YouTube on the Vision Pro, has been removed from the App Store, developer Christian Selig said today. From a report: Back in April, YouTube emailed Selig and said that Juno was violating the YouTube Terms of Service and the YouTube API by modifying the native YouTube.com web user interface, and used YouTube trademarks and iconography that could be confusing to customers.
In response, Selig switched from using the embed player to the website player, made it clear that Juno was an unofficial YouTube viewer, and explained to YouTube that as a web viewer, Juno is not using YouTube APIs. At the same time, though, YouTube filed a complaint with the App Store, and Selig went on to warn customers that he would not fight Google on any decision regarding Juno. Juno has now been removed from the App Store by Apple in response to YouTube's complaint. Selig says that he does not agree with the decision because Juno is a simple web view and that that modifies CSS to make the player look more "visionOS like," but he does not plan to appeal the decision.
In response, Selig switched from using the embed player to the website player, made it clear that Juno was an unofficial YouTube viewer, and explained to YouTube that as a web viewer, Juno is not using YouTube APIs. At the same time, though, YouTube filed a complaint with the App Store, and Selig went on to warn customers that he would not fight Google on any decision regarding Juno. Juno has now been removed from the App Store by Apple in response to YouTube's complaint. Selig says that he does not agree with the decision because Juno is a simple web view and that that modifies CSS to make the player look more "visionOS like," but he does not plan to appeal the decision.
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What in your opinion would have been the right thing for Apple to do here?
Re: Fuck Apple. Fuck Google. (Score:2)
$5 for an app that just does CSS manipulation sounds very apple, that would make sense. Though the ideal way to do this would be with a browser extension. Oh but that's right, iDevice users are forced to use what is by far the worst web browser, and it doesn't even have support for extensions.
If it doesn't run uBlock Origin... (Score:2)
Oh but that's right, iDevice users are forced to use what is by far the worst web browser, and it doesn't even have support for extensions.
Like I (and others) have said before: if it doesn't run uBlock Origin, it's not a real browser.
Re: Fuck Apple. Fuck Google. (Score:2)
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COULDN'T care less, once and for all, please just get it right you nutsacks.
Re: confusing to customers.... (Score:2)
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So you are saying the customers do care to at least some degree?
They're probably an American [youtube.com].
did this happen with Blackberry years ago? (Score:2)
I have a dim memory that Youtube didn't work on the Blackberry, but you could go to an alternate website that, I think, translated the youtube codec to something the blackberry could display. I may be misremembering, but I thought there was a kerfluffle about that similar to this.
Third party tools being locked out (Score:4, Insightful)
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Imagine acting like you have some right to view YouTube any way you like.
Report to competition authorities (Score:1)
Both companies are designated Gatekeepers under the EU Digital Market Act
Please address such issues to COMP-DMA-registry (at) ec.europa.eu
Re: Report to competition authorities (Score:1)
you're being manipulated
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We need a DMA in the United States, bc Apple/Google will continue to shut them down with impunity from the EU as long as the developer is US-based
This is fine (Score:2)
Just sideload FreeTube
Oh, right
ignore it (Score:1)
That guy is a piece of shit. He wants to make himself a news story to manipulate you to be his personal army. He's an absolutely sleazy manipulative piece of shit. Ignore him.
Big Tech (Score:2)
New product comes out, regular people try to make it better, big tech being the greedy fuckers they are say no. Why in hell would I waste my money on a new product tied to tech companies that can dictate every aspect of the experience on the device I own? I'm a tinkerer at heart, not quite a full fledged maker. If I or someone else can't play with or modify my device experience for the better I'll simply avoid it. It seems avoiding ALL tech from the big tech behemoths is the only right thing to do nowadays.
The point of CSS (Score:2)
I remember when CSS first came out, one of the advantages touted by proponents was that clients could supply custom styling to override the default presentation of the site. So much for that.
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I remember when CSS first came out, one of the advantages touted by proponents was that clients could supply custom styling to override the default presentation of the site. So much for that.
The modern take on that is that clients can supply "approved" custom styling to override the default presentation of the site. "Approved" is the most important word, and its importance is directly related to the amount of dollar signs behind the name of the approver.