Trump Administration To Pay German Firm $1.2 Billion To Halt US Wind Projects (bbc.com) 40
An anonymous reader quotes a report from the BBC: German energy company RWE has said it will abandon its offshore wind projects in the U.S. after reaching a $1.2 billion payout deal with President Donald Trump's Department of the Interior (DoI). RWE said that it will now reinvest the sum into conventional gas projects, including $900 million in a liquefied natural gas (LNG) export terminal project in Louisiana. "After careful consideration, it was determined there is no path forward to permit these projects in the US for the foreseeable future," the company said in a statement.
RWE said it has agreed to relinquish its leases off the California and Louisiana coasts as well as in the New York Bight. Overall, the German firm plans to invest approximately $19.6 billion in the U.S. over the next six years "to grow its generation capacity." Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies." "We welcome RWE's agreement and voluntary investment in projects that strengthen our nation's energy security," he added. Earlier this year, the DOL reached a deal with TotalEnergies putting an end to the French company's offshore wind projects in the U.S. "Instead, the firm agreed to reroute investment to build a LNG plant in Texas and to develop 'upstream conventional oil' in the Gulf of Mexico," reports the BBC.
Another similar deal was signed with Charlotte-based Duke Energy last month to terminate the company's offshore wind lease in the Carolina Long Bay area.
RWE said it has agreed to relinquish its leases off the California and Louisiana coasts as well as in the New York Bight. Overall, the German firm plans to invest approximately $19.6 billion in the U.S. over the next six years "to grow its generation capacity." Interior Secretary Doug Burgum said in a statement posted on X that Americans deserve an energy system built on common sense and not one dependent on "costly subsidies." "We welcome RWE's agreement and voluntary investment in projects that strengthen our nation's energy security," he added. Earlier this year, the DOL reached a deal with TotalEnergies putting an end to the French company's offshore wind projects in the U.S. "Instead, the firm agreed to reroute investment to build a LNG plant in Texas and to develop 'upstream conventional oil' in the Gulf of Mexico," reports the BBC.
Another similar deal was signed with Charlotte-based Duke Energy last month to terminate the company's offshore wind lease in the Carolina Long Bay area.
Are you sure that's wise? (Score:5, Insightful)
... the German firm plans to invest approximately $19.6 billion in the U.S. over the next six years "to grow its generation capacity."
The US is sufficiently unstable that I would be very hesitant to invest large sums of money there. I realize that server farms built largely to service the AI bubble need LOTS of power. But even if the demand isn't a bubble, do you really want to be investing in a country which is making an enemy of pretty much all of the rest of the world?
I think America is on very shaky ground now, and may not be nearly as far from "failed state" status as many people imagine it is.
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I'm an american and I keep looking for good ways to invest outside of this kleptocracy.
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What about trump gas? Is it the best investment?
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FOR MAGA ONLY (Score:4, Insightful)
how, exactly, is spending over a billion dollars to halt a renewable energy project (literally free electricity after the project is paid up minus a little bit of maintenance) Making America Great Again? are you really concerned about the birds? really? what is the reason? do you even have one? or is this just “follow the leader” ? this is a legitimate question. i really want to know.
Re:FOR MAGA ONLY (Score:5, Insightful)
Give away a Billion dollars in taxpayer's money so he can pocket $100 Million in fossil fuel kick backs? He literally doesn't see a problem with this.
Re:FOR MAGA ONLY (Score:5, Insightful)
Neither do any of the cult followers.
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From what I just read on this, the whole "common sense" bit was the idea that wind power is not stable power. Power only comes when the wind blows. For an energy grid to be viable it needs a foundation in a more reliable power stream (hence fossil fuels) first, with wind on the periphery. I have no idea how much of an impact this really has, it's just the argument I read.
Separately, that billion dollars was a refund. The company already paid US the billion dollars before to get leases on the land to bui
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but then other laws essentially blocked their ability to actually build the wind power there
"other laws" = Trump executive orders
Re: FOR MAGA ONLY (Score:5, Informative)
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"The Washington Free Beacon ... "
Which does not alter the fact that the DEI requirement of the EV charging stations screwed up the project. Its not the conservative boogey men you cite that said so. Its people in the Biden administrations that said so. Its people working on project that said so.
Reality does not change depending on who reports it. Both conservatives and liberals will tell the truth when it coincidentally aligns with their politics. To learn the truth, you often have t listen to both sides.
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2. I agree that it’s important to listen to both sides, but it’s also important to know which side is “speaking”. That being said, I don’t know how much credence I would give to a media outlet owned by someone best known as a “vulture capitalist”, and the fact that you can’t find a better source could also be considered as indicative of somethin
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Offshore wind has a decent capacity factor, with show term variations smoothed out with batteries. In fact some of the North Sea turbines are rivalling French nuclear plants for capacity factor now, although that's more a statement on how old and unable to deal with heat the latter are.
Wind always has significant maintenance costs (Score:2)
how, exactly, is spending over a billion dollars to halt a renewable energy project (literally free electricity after the project is paid up minus a little bit of maintenance)
Maintenance is not a minor cost. Especially so at sea. I have a local land based wind project that has been idle for many years. It was more costly than expected, including maintenance costs. It turns out the hardware did not have the expected longevity and reliability. And this is in a very pro-renewables state, California. If it could have been make viable it probably would have been. Other projects in the state have been commercially successful, and they too have significant ongoing maintenance costs.
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Wind turbines have long been a hate object for Trump.
He has claimed that they cause cancer and that they ruin the environment, etc.
Meanwhile, despite being an intermittent source of energy, wind power in 2026
is used in 138 countries and capacity increased by 40% worldwide last year.
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This has nothing to do with rationality.
Wind turbines have long been a hate object for Trump.
He has claimed that they cause cancer and that they ruin the environment, etc.
And they obscure the ocean view from his beach-front golf course in Scotland.
(He lost the legal battle to have hem stopped/removed.)
How Trump's loathing for wind turbines started with a Scottish court battle [bbc.com]
Re: FOR MAGA ONLY (Score:2)
China added 120Gw.
The US : 7 Gw
Sweden 2Gw
https://www.gwec.net/news/global-wind-installations-rise-record-40-as-industry-charts-way-out-of-energy-crisis
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how, exactly, is spending over a billion dollars to halt a renewable energy project ...Making America Great Again? ...
Maybe it's to Make Germany Great Again? /s
I'm sure that would track with this administration (*cough* Stephen Miller *cough*) and its supporters...
Re: FOR MAGA ONLY (Score:1)
This administration (Score:3, Insightful)
is evil.
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"Costly subsidies" (Score:3, Funny)
Costly subsidies... like $1.2 billion?
Snigger- what they don't tell you in the summary (Score:2, Troll)
RWE initially paid a total of approximately $1.26 billion for its U.S. offshore wind leases—$1.1 billion for its New York Bight lease in 2022 plus $163 million combined for California and Louisiana leases—before striking a $1.22 billion exit settlement with the U.S. government in August 2026 to relinquish them
So put your pearls down, this just resets the clock. Or whina nad stamp your feet. No skin off my nose.
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So put your pearls down, this just resets the clock.
How? The net result: we are $1.2B poorer. Are you doing accounting for DOGE?
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So put your pearls down, this just resets the clock.
Hopefully that's also how you feel as well about the $100 billion in refunds of Trump's tariffs, which were ordered by the Supreme Court - not a problem, just resets the clock. But it certainly didn't seem to be how Trump felt about that.
shades of Lysenkoism (Score:1)
Ideology vetos reality, news at 11.
Art of the DEAL, amirite? (Score:4, Informative)
Cancellation payouts so far this year for wind projects and lease terminations:
$1.2B to RWE AG
$928M to TotalEnergies SE
$900M to Golden State and Bluepoint
$765M to Invenergy
These deals of course were made very strongly,
Could Sleepy Joe have done this?
Of course not.
Question is, the value of wind generated power (Score:2)
The question is, what is the value of wind generated power?
The UK has real time and archived data available to anyone who really wants to answer this question. The data shows, in summary, that wind generated power is not the same as conventional or nuclear generated power. You can see it clearly here in graphical form ( and from other sources, (www.gridwatch.templar.co.uk for instance) there's the raw data available in csv format. Here's the graphical version:
www.gridwatch.co.uk/wind
What happens is that
A Man of Yesterday (Score:2)